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Old 10-09-2015, 08:13 PM
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At a discount of $9.60 you have to play about 97 rounds of golf in order to break even. Of course for a couple that's 48 rounds each.

I don't know what kind of value you put on the preferred tee times, but it's certainly worth it to some people and not worth it to others.

I think that it's really a shame that TV doesn't have truly public clubs where there are weekly events and camaraderie.

But, a golf course, like anything else is a business and a money making enterprise. The owners have determined the best way of marketing and selling their product.

Last week Lopez cost $41 and your cart, Stonecrest today $15 and their cart.
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Old 10-10-2015, 07:12 AM
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I played Tierra Del Sol last Friday, cost me $41 and used my own cart, I booked four tee times at Stonecrest today, $15 and cart included !!!!
what a great price. I used to take guests staying with me in TV to Stonecrest and enjoyed it. Do not have any idea is the conditions are still the same.

Maybe it is worth me getting in the car once in a while.
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Old 10-11-2015, 07:37 PM
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what a great price. I used to take guests staying with me in TV to Stonecrest and enjoyed it. Do not have any idea is the conditions are still the same.

Maybe it is worth me getting in the car once in a while.
In todays Daily Sun: Black Bear CC $32.95 includes unlimited golf and lunch. Mission Inn $38: Continental CC $20, Golf, Cart, Hotdog, and a beer. Palmer in the Villages, $58 and your cart.
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Come 10/1 every year my neighborhood group heads out the bubble to play a round. Some of the courses include breakfast/lunch some don't. when the rates drop in Spring they will play inside The Villages.

We played Black Bear a few years back and we met a guy from The Villages that joined Black Bear and drove from TV every day to play it. To each his own

As to priority you have to play a lot of golf. and by definition a foursome with priority moves ahead of a threesome who move ahead of a twosome who move ahead of me who seemed to be the only golfer in my group with priority the math didn't work well for me. Its like those cards you purchase at a restaurant you need to go frequently and buy drinks.

I don't frequent restaurants and when I do its my meal and water with lemon

And while I hear the sound of galloping hoofs am I hearing horses or zebras?
The championship courses here are public
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And while I hear the sound of galloping hoofs am I hearing horses or zebras?
The championship courses here are public
Ruby, Ruby, Ruby--I so hate to disagree with a fellow Auburnian, but...

Is Highland Park GC on Franklin St public or semi-private?

Again, from golf.com:

"Semi-private course" is the term applied to golf courses that sell memberships, but also allow non-members to book tee times and play. So a semi-private course combines elements of a country club with elements of a public golf course.

The term "semi-private course" is one used most commonly in the United States. But many of the famous links of Great Britain, for example, qualify as semi-private.

What benefits do members of a semi-private course receive? Typically, reduced (or waived) green fees, sometimes preferential tee times, and access to other amenities or perks offered by the club.

Non-members can play the golf course, but typically pay higher green fees and might be restricted from entering other parts of the club (swimming pool or tennis courts, for example).


I issue you the same challenge that I posted previously----name ONE, just ONE of the criteria in the definition above that is NOT met by the championship courses in TV
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Why are green fees on the championship courses inside the Villages higher than they are on the outside ???
Getting back to the start of this, the fees are higher because they can be and the cost of doing business here is probably more costly then outside the bubble . It amazes me that some of the people on here rally around the free enterprise system, fight for the freedoms we all love BUT raise the price of a green a dollar and watch out!!!! There are many reasons the prices are higher, the main one is because they get that price. They are full in the "season!" The staffing levels at the villages courses is rather high, and oh god don't see a ambassador for 3 holes and watch out, THE SKY IS FALLING!! Wages go up, no I did not forget staff get minimum wage, but that also goes up. Cost of doing business goes up, therefore cost goes up.That folks is the free enterprise system. If you do not like do not play those courses. BUT a lot of folks do, check the numbers,, last year Mallory, Havana, and Cane had near 300,000 rounds of golf on JUST those three courses. Please all of the whiners, go outside the bubble, leave more room for me.

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Getting back to the start of this, the fees are higher because they can be and the cost of doing business here is probably more costly then outside the bubble . It amazes me that some of the people on here rally around the free enterprise system, fight for the freedoms we all love BUT raise the price of a green a dollar and watch out!!!! There are many reasons the prices are higher, the main one is because they get that price. They are full in the "season!" The staffing levels at the villages courses is rather high, and oh god don't see a ambassador for 3 holes and watch out, THE SKY IS FALLING!! Wages go up, no I did not forget staff get minimum wage, but that also goes up. Cost of doing business goes up, therefore cost goes up.That folks is the free enterprise system. If you do not like do not play those courses. BUT a lot of folks do, check the numbers,, last year Mallory, Havana, and Cane had near 300,000 rounds of golf on JUST those three courses. Please all of the whiners, go outside the bubble, leave more room for me.

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Old 10-12-2015, 07:15 AM
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I'll stick with the free courses near Mulberry. We golfed here in Minnesota yesterday and it was 95F! Today 47F, rain and wind! 29F by Friday..we'll be in TV by the 1st of November..four!
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Getting back to the start of this, the fees are higher because they can be and the cost of doing business here is probably more costly then outside the bubble . It amazes me that some of the people on here rally around the free enterprise system, fight for the freedoms we all love BUT raise the price of a green a dollar and watch out!!!! There are many reasons the prices are higher, the main one is because they get that price. They are full in the "season!" The staffing levels at the villages courses is rather high, and oh god don't see a ambassador for 3 holes and watch out, THE SKY IS FALLING!! Wages go up, no I did not forget staff get minimum wage, but that also goes up. Cost of doing business goes up, therefore cost goes up.That folks is the free enterprise system. If you do not like do not play those courses. BUT a lot of folks do, check the numbers,, last year Mallory, Havana, and Cane had near 300,000 rounds of golf on JUST those three courses. Please all of the whiners, go outside the bubble, leave more room for me.

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It just seems that somewhere along the line we lost the dream of the founder Harold Schwartz. Not to many years ago the developer advertised championship golf at less that a dollar a hole. Eighteen years ago using the priority advantage Tierra Del Sol cost me only $12 for 18 holes. Do you thing the minimum wage nearly tripled in eighteen years ??? The outside courses have the same costs as is incurred inside the Village community.
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Old 10-12-2015, 04:21 PM
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Just curious...do the outside courses have nine-hole rates?
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This is why from now until May 1 I'll be golfing off the reservation. Lots and lots of nice courses all much cheaper than the Villages.
And we appreciate that.
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It just seems that somewhere along the line we lost the dream of the founder Harold Schwartz. Not to many years ago the developer advertised championship golf at less that a dollar a hole. Eighteen years ago using the priority advantage Tierra Del Sol cost me only $12 for 18 holes. Do you thing the minimum wage nearly tripled in eighteen years ??? The outside courses have the same costs as is incurred inside the Village community.
Of course the minimum wage has not tripled, there are many reasons for prices to go up. My point was that is just one of them. The courses outside the villages get people out of the bubble with cheaper prices. My point is and will be, this is free country, charge what they want, play where you want, JUST stop whiner about the cost. The market will determine the price, it is that easy!
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Good answer!! When the courses are not booked full every day, you may see a drop in green fees. Until that happens, we will all pay whatever the market will bear. They are there to make money.
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