[cypress]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

OK, fine-----but that's a whole lot different than the previous "they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us"

But why not use the persons name that may or may not play?

[rhood]

Villages.net notifies me when a tee time is made in my name. Are you signed up for this service?

[cypress]

I will investigate my card but it may be a good idea to check your play history now and then. This seems uncomfortably easy to abuse.

Thanks all.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Curious that this came up today. I played with someone on a Championship Course, yesterday. He is not a TV Resident, but has a Guest Pass. He booked his own Tee Time yesterday, but told me he often plays with a "Group" and ends up paying the "Enhanced Member Rate".

I assume this means someone is booking his Tee Time, using someone else's ID #? Wouldn't the Pro Shop see this when he signs in and stop it?

Questions???
Why is this guy bragging to a stranger how he’s “beating “ the system?
If not a resident where does he reside? This makes a difference.
Who is the sponsor of his guest pass?
How is he able to get the enhanced rate?
How does he play with a group?

In any event if this person shared all this with me, my first stop after playing would be the pro shop to speak with the pro. It’s not too late for you to do the right thing.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by rhood

Villages.net notifies me when a tee time is made in my name. Are you signed up for this service?

Safe to say most people (like me) never use the VillagesNet email address. Simple solution is to login, go to mail/forwarder, and enter your personal email account (the one you commonly use). Every time you get a tee time notice, you'll receive an email notification.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Questions???
Why is this guy bragging to a stranger how he’s “beating “ the system?
If not a resident where does he reside? Thus makes a difference.
Who is the sponsor of his guest pass?
How is he able to get the enhanced rate?
How does he play with a group?

In any event if this person shared all this with me, my first stop after playing would be the pro shop to speak with the pro. It’s not too late for you to do the right thing.

I'm not sure it's my responsibility, to make sure golfers pay the appropriate rate. In this instance, I KNOW he paid the proper rate when he played with me (RG).

As near as I can tell, the "flaw in the system" is the way "Groups" can book ... & then they get to the course and drive the Starters crazy, moving people from one foursome to another.

I was in the golf business and if I were King of the Villages Golf System, I cut that stuff out the very first day. You book a foursome, that's the foursome that plays together. If someone drops out at the last minute, tough luck and he pays a "no show" fee, plus gets points added.

I don't know how many times I've listened to guys complain about their group's Tee Times and how hard it is to get them and how much effort it takes. At any decent Private Club in the USA, you'd have a hard time booking any more than (2) Tee Times, in the middle of prime time, in prime season.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I'm not sure it's my responsibility, to make sure golfers pay the appropriate rate. In this instance, I KNOW he paid the proper rate when he played with me (RG).

As near as I can tell, the "flaw in the system" is the way "Groups" can book ... & then they get to the course and drive the Starters crazy, moving people from one foursome to another.

I was in the golf business and if I were King of the Villages Golf System, I cut that stuff out the very first day. You book a foursome, that's the foursome that plays together. If someone drops out at the last minute, tough luck and he pays a "no show" fee, plus gets points added.

I don't know how many times I've listened to guys complain about their group's Tee Times and how hard it is to get them and how much effort it takes. At any decent Private Club in the USA, you'd have a hard time booking any more than (2) Tee Times, in the middle of prime time, in prime season.

I agree. Tee times, at Championships, should be held with a credit card - 12 hour cancellation window. You dont cancel, you pay and get points.
No shows at Executives = points charged.
Foursome booked, is the foursome that plays.
however, you should be able to change the foursome in your groups up to the night before

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

I agree. Tee times, at Championships, should be held with a credit card - 12 hour cancellation window. You dont cancel, you pay and get points.
No shows at Executives = points charged.
Foursome booked, is the foursome that plays.
however, you should be able to change the foursome in your groups up to the night before

I agree. Changing the foursomes a day or 2 prior is fine, but the Starter's Sheet on the morning of play, should show exactly who's playing in what group, at what time.

Not to put too a fine of a point on it, but there are also practical reasons. We're dealing with a lot of older folks here and emergencies arise. If something like that happens, a person should be able to call the Pro Shop and know exactly where someone is on the course or facility. I admit I've played more golf than the average person, but I've been in at least 3 or 4 situations, when the Pro Shop had to come out on the course to find someone. It's much easier, if everyone is where the Tee Sheet says they are.

OK, on one of the occasions, it was just a Sheriff, trying to serve someone ... so no big deal if they could't find him.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by rhood

Villages.net notifies me when a tee time is made in my name. Are you signed up for this service?

No notification if you don't have an account.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

OK, fine-----but that's a whole lot different than the previous "they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us"

But it's different only if they cancel the no show in time for someone else to use the spot...

[John Mayes]

Originally Posted by GpaVader

The group I play in uses that to hold a spot or if they don't want to take a chance on having someone paired up with us. Have you ever had a friend set up a tee time and gave them your ID number? This is likely where it came from....

This is called “ghosting” and is highly frowned upon by the G&T office. It prevents other golfers from potentially getting a spot during high play times. If it happens on a regular basis, the person making the reservations may be flagged and receive a warning.

[cypress]

Hopefully my last post on this matter but as I sat here thinking about this I came to this conclusion. If I let someone make a tee time with my Villages ID my number can be passed around the entire population of the villages and used to ghost tee times and hold spots for people who may or may not play in that time.
This is a very sloppy and easy to abuse method of operation. Your ID can become a commodity.

[Mrs.Guy]

Originally Posted by cypress

Hopefully my last post on this matter but as I sat here thinking about this I came to this conclusion. If I let someone make a tee time with my Villages ID my number can be passed around the entire population of the villages and used to ghost tee times and hold spots for people who may or may not play in that time.
This is a very sloppy and easy to abuse method of operation. Your ID can become a commodity.

Perhaps just like a GATE CARD that is cloned and sold?

[MrChip72]

Originally Posted by cypress

Just checked my play history...

Can anyone here please explain how someone can check their play history?

[MidWestIA]

With low play you get higher priority to get tee times so they use you