[Paporter]

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[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Paporter

Why are women with single digit handicaps allowed to play executive course ladies day scramble? The women who play the scrambles, for the most part don’t have handicaps and if they do, they’re in the double digits.

It’s unfair, to all the other players, for these women to play, because they consistently, win every week. Why is this allowed by The Villages?

These woman, don’t play the Championship Ladies Day, because they play against 25 handicappers and feel it’s unfair. Yet, they’ll take advantage of women, who play executive course scrambles, with no handicaps. It’s not fair and single digit handicappers should not be playing in the Executive Course Scrambles on Wednesday’s.

First, handicaps don't come into play on executive courses
Second, this is America, they can play where they want
Third, the premise that "single digit" handicap would feel it is unfair to play against (true) 25 handicappers is false. I will win most of the time giving strokes to a high handicapper.
Fourth, if it were a championship scramble, the teams would be divided into A,B,C, and D players, but not possible on a exec
Fifth, I would suggest taking lessons and practicing , you might be able to join the group you oppose

[biker1]

To some degree, the same thing happens on Men's Play Day. However, we are talking about $3 so who really cares. Presumably, you play because you enjoy it. If the situation is such that you don't enjoy it anymore then why play? They could, however, make some modifications to the rules. For example, require a minimum of two tee shots per player. Or they could play step aside; if your shot is selected you don't get to make the next shot (typically a putt on the executives). However, since the teams are random, everyone gets a chance to play with the better players and be on the winning team. Scrambles are all about making putts. If you want to win more then practice your putting.

Originally Posted by Paporter

Why are women with single digit handicaps allowed to play executive course ladies day scramble? The women who play the scrambles, for the most part don’t have handicaps and if they do, they’re in the double digits.

It’s unfair, to all the other players, for these women to play, because they consistently, win every week. Why is this allowed by The Villages?

These woman, don’t play the Championship Ladies Day, because they play against 25 handicappers and feel it’s unfair. Yet, they’ll take advantage of women, who play executive course scrambles, with no handicaps. It’s not fair and single digit handicappers should not be playing in the Executive Course Scrambles on Wednesday’s.

[Topspinmo]

Golf along with few other games are the only games you are actually playing against yourself. You have total control over course, the swing, and the thought process. It’s only you that makes bad choices or bad hits. Golf is hard due to many variables. I would suggest play the course and not worry about other players. You know the age old saying? Practice, practice, and more practice. Even then actual competition creates pressure.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

First, handicaps don't come into play on executive courses
Second, this is America, they can play where they want
Third, the premise that "single digit" handicap would feel it is unfair to play against (true) 25 handicappers is false. I will win most of the time giving strokes to a high handicapper.
Fourth, if it were a championship scramble, the teams would be divided into A,B,C, and D players, but not possible on a exec
Fifth, I would suggest taking lessons and practicing , you might be able to join the group you oppose

If they are using driver off par three 100 yards or less handicap does come into play

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

If they are using driver off par three 100 yards or less handicap does come into play

You do realize the majority of holes in one published are women inside 100 yards with a driver, usually skulled

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by biker1

To some degree, the same thing happens on Men's Play Day. However, we are talking about $3 so who really cares. Presumably, you play because you enjoy it. If the situation is such that you don't enjoy it anymore then why play? They could, however, make some modifications to the rules. For example, require a minimum of two tee shots per player. Or they could play step aside; if your shot is selected you don't get to make the next shot (typically a putt on the executives). However, since the teams are random, everyone gets a chance to play with the better players and be on the winning team. Scrambles are all about making putts. If you want to win more then practice your putting.

Men's day issue is a little different, since we only play one or two scrambles/year and they are divided ABCD. Without calling a potato a potato, prior to the world handicap system, a certain tee color would have 6 or 7 net scores in the 50's. Since the USGA states the odds of beating your handicap by 10 shots is 1 in 640,000, do the math for 7 scores that beat it and draw your own conclusion---I'm not going to use the "S" word

[biker1]

I was referring to Men’s Play Day on the executive courses (weekly on Tuesdays). The OP’s post was about Ladies’ Play Day on executives. I was trying to give her some suggestions. As far as I can tell, Men’s Play Day and Ladies’ Play Day on the executive are run the same way (random teams with gross score).

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Men's day issue is a little different, since we only play one or two scrambles/year and they are divided ABCD. Without calling a potato a potato, prior to the world handicap system, a certain tee color would have 6 or 7 net scores in the 50's. Since the USGA states the odds of beating your handicap by 10 shots is 1 in 640,000, do the math for 7 scores that beat it and draw your own conclusion---I'm not going to use the "S" word

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Golf along with few other games are the only games you are actually playing against yourself. You have total control over course, the swing, and the thought process. It’s only you that makes bad choices or bad hits. Golf is hard due to many variables. I would suggest play the course and not worry about other players. You know the age old saying? Practice, practice, and more practice. Even then actual competition creates pressure.

Well Said!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by biker1

I was referring to Men’s Play Day on the executive courses (weekly on Tuesdays). The OP’s post was about Ladies’ Play Day on executives. I was trying to give her some suggestions. As far as I can tell, Men’s Play Day and Ladies’ Play Day on the executive are run the same way (random teams with gross score).

Sorry, didn't even consider that

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by Paporter

Why are women with single digit handicaps allowed to play executive course ladies day scramble? The women who play the scrambles, for the most part don’t have handicaps and if they do, they’re in the double digits.

It’s unfair, to all the other players, for these women to play, because they consistently, win every week. Why is this allowed by The Villages?

These woman, don’t play the Championship Ladies Day, because they play against 25 handicappers and feel it’s unfair. Yet, they’ll take advantage of women, who play executive course scrambles, with no handicaps. It’s not fair and single digit handicappers should not be playing in the Executive Course Scrambles on Wednesday’s.

Why not start a group and solicit players of "a certain skill level"?

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by Paporter

Why are women with single digit handicaps allowed to play executive course ladies day scramble? The women who play the scrambles, for the most part don’t have handicaps and if they do, they’re in the double digits.

It’s unfair, to all the other players, for these women to play, because they consistently, win every week. Why is this allowed by The Villages?

These woman, don’t play the Championship Ladies Day, because they play against 25 handicappers and feel it’s unfair. Yet, they’ll take advantage of women, who play executive course scrambles, with no handicaps. It’s not fair and single digit handicappers should not be playing in the Executive Course Scrambles on Wednesday’s.

Because we live in America, that's why!

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You do realize the majority of holes in one published are women inside 100 yards with a driver, usually skulled

I like to refer to it as lawn bowling.

[jebartle]

As a 6 handicap (back in NC), I've always found it MORE CHALLENGING to play folks with a high handicap, BUT that is why we have a handicap system to even the playing field. Golf is such fun, ENJOY and don't sweat the small stuff.

[Rich42]

Oh, I see. If you work hard and become proficient at something you shouldn’t be allowed to participate with those who don’t. Interesting concept.