[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Snakster66

Can't say I'm familiar, but I DO think it's high time we deal with the tyrannical law of the Tea Time Office. This is the US of A...we call a it a cookie here. Take your 'biscuits' back the King.

LOL!

[TVTVTV]

Originally Posted by maclanewon

Has anybody had any success fighting the tyrannical law of the Tee Time Office?? Any suggestions??

First time post and joined in 2013... hmm... scroll past this troll.

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Will we have to wait another 12 years for a follow-up post?

I may only find out what tyrannical law the poster was talking about from my pall bearers!

[Pinball wizard]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

The village of Stu has an office to handle this but does not have a record of a single complaint.

Wonder who we could license this too?

But you have no courses.

[jimmy o]

Originally Posted by maclanewon

Has anybody had any success fighting the tyrannical law of the Tee Time Office?? Any suggestions??

You just need to learn to use it. I find it to be a very fair system. Although they could use better web based instructions on use.

[georgefloto]

Originally Posted by maclanewon

Has anybody had any success fighting the tyrannical law of the Tee Time Office?? Any suggestions??

1. Go back to Shotgun starts

2. Give a weight to people requesting tee time, based on the time and date they request tee time, favoring those who request earlier than others.

A full assignment of tee times has about 72 tee times, weight could be assigned as 72 points for first request, 71 for second and so forth thru out the rest of the requests .

Currently you can be the first one to submit for a tee time and end up being assigned the very last tee time.

If the current system doesn't provide that adjustment, then a software change should be contracted for and made.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by georgefloto

1. Go back to Shotgun starts

2. Give a weight to people requesting tee time, based on the time and date they request tee time, favoring those who request earlier than others.

A full assignment of tee times has about 72 tee times, weight could be assigned as 72 points for first request, 71 for second and so forth thru out the rest of the requests .

Currently you can be the first one to submit for a tee time and end up being assigned the very last tee time.

If the current system doesn't provide that adjustment, then a software change should be contracted for and made.

As someone who's been in and around the golf business for 40+ years, that's the worst group of suggestions I've ever heard.

In regards to #1: So people only get to play golf, at specific times, twice a day? That makes no sense ... & you completely fill the course, every time groups go off? You couldn't have a start before 8:30 am or after 1:00 pm. Everyone would have to play in less than 4.5 hours, with a full golf course ... won't happen ... can't happen ... & the 1 pm Shotgun wouldn't finish before dark.

#2 So if you want a Tee Time, you need to book a month in advance and assume you & your group will all be available and the weather will cooperate? & if you don't decide a week in advance, you don't get a Tee Time? & what about all the Tee Times that are booked a month in advance and they start cancelling them at the last minute ... or don't cancel them. What happens to those Tee Times? They just get wasted?

Where do you come up "a full assignment of tee times has about 72 tee times" ?

IF you run 8 minute Tee Times (which doesn't really work), you have about 60 Tee Times per day, 240 players max ... but of course, that doesn't matter, because you already just want to run Shotgun starts.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I have heard the exact same story.

OK, with the preamble that paragraph in italics is speculation, rumor or otherwise:

The Tee Time system uses a modified "Chelsea" system, which a huge number of clubs use, around the country. I've played at least 20 golf courses in Naples, every one I've played uses the Chelsea system.

There are a number of "off the rack" Tee Time systems available, most of which would need some modification, based on the shear volume of TV Tee Times & Golf Courses.

It's illogical to me, why the Executive Courses & Championship courses are linked together. The Championship courses are privately owned ... why are they "sharing" a system?

GolfNow booked +/- 3.5M rounds last year, on over 10,000 courses. We're not re-inventing the wheel here.

The Developer is one of the largest contractors to the District (shocking?) and they provide almost all the computer needs for TV/District. The District pays them to manage their systems and to provide software & support. You can find the #'s on the District financials and it's staggering.

The current software was (I'm told) was created from an off-the-shelf system they bought and modified ... & they now lease it to The Villages/District and presumably, pay some sort of fee for the Golf/Tennis Office to handle the Championship Courses ... or vice versa, the Developer still owns the software and the District pays the Golf/Tennis Office to handle the Exec courses).

Golf Now and TV are worlds apart. Pick your course, and find open tee times on Golf Now. In wintertime hundreds of requests hit at the same time and there can be groups of 4-24 people wanting to play a certain course during a time period and all of those will pick at least 3-4 courses. Priority and points also are a consideration. Personally it is a cluster(you know what)

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

Golf Now and TV are worlds apart. Pick your course, and find open tee times on Golf Now. In wintertime hundreds of requests hit at the same time and there can be groups of 4-24 people wanting to play a certain course during a time period and all of those will pick at least 3-4 courses. Priority and points also are a consideration. Personally it is a cluster(you know what)

If GolfNow can manage 10,000 courses and 3.5 million rounds of golf, with barely a blip, their software is pretty sophisticated.

There are plenty of other courses & resorts that have 3 or more golf courses and they don't have any problems.

People make the TV system out to be something overly complicated. It's a simple variation of the Chelsea system. Maybe it was a big deal before the days of computers, but any competent programmer could take an "off the shelf system" and modify it for TV. It's not brain surgery, it's a progression of "yes"/"no" answers.

[MSchad]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

If GolfNow can manage 10,000 courses and 3.5 million rounds of golf, with barely a blip, their software is pretty sophisticated.

There are plenty of other courses & resorts that have 3 or more golf courses and they don't have any problems.

Not sure what the problem is with the logic, functionality or dependability of the current system. Works as designed, does a great job and is easy to use. Granted it doesn’t have the modern flashy interface.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by MSchad

Not sure what the problem is with the logic, functionality or dependability of the current system. Works as designed, does a great job and is easy to use. Granted it doesn’t have the modern flashy interface.

You're right. It's not flashy, but it's ridiculously simple to use and seldom has a glitch. It has a couple of minor deficiencies compared with more sophisticated system, but it gets the job done.

[georgefloto]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

As someone who's been in and around the golf business for 40+ years, that's the worst group of suggestions I've ever heard.

In regards to #1: So people only get to play golf, at specific times, twice a day? That makes no sense ... & you completely fill the course, every time groups go off? You couldn't have a start before 8:30 am or after 1:00 pm. Everyone would have to play in less than 4.5 hours, with a full golf course ... won't happen ... can't happen ... & the 1 pm Shotgun wouldn't finish before dark.

#2 So if you want a Tee Time, you need to book a month in advance and assume you & your group will all be available and the weather will cooperate? & if you don't decide a week in advance, you don't get a Tee Time? & what about all the Tee Times that are booked a month in advance and they start cancelling them at the last minute ... or don't cancel them. What happens to those Tee Times? They just get wasted?

Where do you come up "a full assignment of tee times has about 72 tee times" ?

IF you run 8 minute Tee Times (which doesn't really work), you have about 60 Tee Times per day, 240 players max ... but of course, that doesn't matter, because you already just want to run Shotgun starts.

This was referring to only Executive golf played on Tuesdays and Wednesday, Mens and Womans dyays. in the morning between 7:45 am and 11:00 am which is currently reserved for Mens and Womans Executive and Championshio course play on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings.

These play before covid was always Shotgun starts.

[BlueStarAirlines]

Originally Posted by georgefloto

These play before covid was always Shotgun starts.

I hate the "before COVID" comments. Why stop there? Lets go all the way back to "before there was Lake Sumter Landing"....

The tee time system works good, its fair, and isn't complicated if a minimal effort is put in to understand it. TV offers free classes that cover both the phone and online scheduling.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by georgefloto

This was referring to only Executive golf played on Tuesdays and Wednesday, Mens and Womans dyays. in the morning between 7:45 am and 11:00 am which is currently reserved for Mens and Womans Executive and Championshio course play on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings.

These play before covid was always Shotgun starts.

Just to clarify: Not on the championship courses

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Pinball wizard

But you have no courses.

you have to purchase the premium package to use them.