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This is because cyclically, large caps have done exceptionally well in the past 10 years or so. Many small cap stock indexes went up 300% in value between 2000-2012. During that same time, the S&P100 went up 20% in total.

Extend your graph back an extra 14 years and you'll see that the S&P500 is going to beat each of those indexes over the full 22 years.
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S&P is knocking on 5000's door, Dow is at an all time, and my cash is making over 5%. A 50/50 investor is riding high.
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I just deleted my rather extensive questioning of Python and why I am wondering why it is free.
I do not have time to look into this further right now.

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Python is a high-level, general-purpose programming language. Its design philosophy emphasizes code readability with the use of significant indentation. Python is dynamically typed and garbage-collected. It supports multiple programming paradigms, including structured, object-oriented and functional programming.

I don't what all that means, just show me how to use it like i'm 5 years old. . .

Python (programming language - Wikipedia)

That's the easy part. The hard part is that there are thousands of libraries / addins / packages which are customizations to do almost anything, written by real programmers. To be truthful, I can't understand most of the instructions provided with each package, so its google how do i do this in python.. . ChatGPT is also very helpful, though i don't trust it as it hasn't always worked for me.

The academic competitor is R software, which is very similar and can do almost anything as well. R is free as well.
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I just deleted my rather extensive questioning of Python and why I am wondering why it is free.

I do not have time to look into this further right now.

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The thought is similar to why Wikipedia is free and Encyclopedia Britannica is not — and yet both exist. Free and paid competitive products each have advantages and disadvantages.

Free products like Wikipedia and Python are things, made practical by the free internet, where socialism does tend to work even though those products have some blemishes. Many people cannot afford the paid alternatives or are unwilling to pay for them.
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XLG by far

top 50 largest cap stocks in the SP500, all US oligopolies and world dominate players in most if not all sectors.

plenty diversified, and plenty concentrated to deliver superb earnings growth. . not so much with dividends but with revenue and earnings growth along with EPS growing stock buybacks

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Wow, surprised to see we are now offering financial advice on this site. Your XLG fund has a significant higher cost (0.20) for the fund than most Vanguard funds. The Vanguard funds own the same shares with the top 10 holdings and expense ratios of 0.03 or 0.04 are significantly lower. Just saying.
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Although it is not an ETF I have no complaints about the performance of the shares of NVDA I purchased in 2022 nor of the BRK I bought in the middle 1980s.

The ETFs VGT and VOO have done well over the last few years, too. Again, no complaints.
Agree.
I bought VGT in Mar.'19 @ $194. Still have it @ $513.
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I used invest in stuff like xlg qqq voo ... but I got tired of mediocre returns. Fidelity webinars Amsbury Research now and then (you can see his you tube) and mainly he has calcs he does to say when it's safe to be in or out of the market but at the end he would show the etf sectors the money was going into and out of. HHmmm why don't I chase the money sector stocks. SO now nvda meta crwd BUT use a stop loss order at like 97% if you do this things change fast. up 39% from Oct doing that
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I used to use qqq voo but got tired of slow returns now I follow the leading stocks in the leading sectors but it needs stop loss orders without that I was up 75% then only 24% in a year. Put qqq xlg on a yahoo finance chart then add nvda, meta, crwd
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S&P is knocking on 5000's door, Dow is at an all time, and my cash is making over 5%. A 50/50 investor is riding high.
Yes, I bit the bullet when I hit 80 a couple years ago and went about 50-50 equity securities and T-bills/money market funds. I did not have to sell any securities to accomplish this as I sold a couple of commercial real estate properties and put enough of the after tax proceeds into T-bills and money market funds to arrive at this distribution.

The stock market has moved up so much that I am now about 65-35. I plan to leave it as is as most of it is taxable on sale and I have enough in cash set aside to feel comfortable about it.
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Wow, surprised to see we are now offering financial advice on this site. Your XLG fund has a significant higher cost (0.20) for the fund than most Vanguard funds. The Vanguard funds own the same shares with the top 10 holdings and expense ratios of 0.03 or 0.04 are significantly lower. Just saying.
I am not selling anything,
I am not collecting fees,
SEC no longer prosecuting for anything but insider trading,
and that isn't happening here, so we can continue

If you check the returns, the difference in the compound growth rate exceeds the difference in fees,
which is more about marketing when looking at exactly the same funds with exact same benchmarks and composition goals
ie, don't care about fees, only care about after fee return. . .

good luck.

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Yes, I bit the bullet when I hit 80 a couple years ago and went about 50-50 equity securities and T-bills/money market funds. I did not have to sell any securities to accomplish this as I sold a couple of commercial real estate properties and put enough of the after tax proceeds into T-bills and money market funds to arrive at this distribution.

The stock market has moved up so much that I am now about 65-35. I plan to leave it as most of it is taxable on sale and I have enough in cash set aside to feel comfortable about it.
It's been a good couple of years for sure. I rebalanced the IRAs because of no tax lmplications. Didn't with the rest.
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XLG by far

top 50 largest cap stocks in the SP500, all US oligopolies and world dominate players in most if not all sectors.

plenty diversified, and plenty concentrated to deliver superb earnings growth. . not so much with dividends but with revenue and earnings growth along with EPS growing stock buybacks

brought to you by python portfolio strategy backtesting.

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I keep running into mentions of this fund, so I did some thorough research and you are 100% correct. 10 year return for XLG is 14.38%, 10 year return for SPY (an S&P ETF) is 12.76%.

This is a link to MANY articles that I read comparing XLG to S&P 500. XLG vs. SPY — ETF comparison tool | PortfoliosLab

I moved some of my SPY over to XLG in my 401k , where there are no tax consequences for doing such. Thank you for planting the final seed that made me act
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I keep running into mentions of this fund, so I did some thorough research and you are 100% correct. 10 year return for XLG is 14.38%, 10 year return for SPY (an S&P ETF) is 12.76%.

This is a link to MANY articles that I read comparing XLG to S&P 500. XLG vs. SPY — ETF comparison tool | PortfoliosLab

I moved some of my SPY over to XLG in my 401k , where there are no tax consequences for doing such. Thank you for planting the final seed that made me act
one of the more interesting points of this type of fund, is that there is a huge amount of survivorship bias built in. What that means as an example: not predicting this for the binary thinking types: If TSLA starts falling cause Elon gets put in jail, the fund would replace TSLA with the 51st stock, and would maintain its large company bias. And in the same point at the bottom 50, up and coming stocks will start to infiltrate the bottom 45-50 as their market cap grows and the out of favor falls. .

The other interesting point, at some point the technology sector will start to go sideways, being overvalued and will time correct, and the next 43 will pick up the dollars, and continue. The only way active managers have to beat the index as their benchmark is too overweight the top stocks in the index and hope that the lousy 450 or 493 will not outperform, which is what this ETF represents. .

anyway, for those with a legal viewpoint, I am not selling anything, I am not receiving any compensation, and I am invested a large portion of my IRA in the XLG. These posts are only to increase awareness of high quality investments which may outperform your current portfolio, but due your own due diligence as I am not a CFP, CFA, CMT, CTA or any other C%%
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