[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by bopat

Most people, including me, have a mix of stocks, bonds, money markets and cash.

Not a problem to rebalance and take advantage of the perceived short term panic.

Correct but bet you felt better in December.

[jbartle1]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Change the channel, your country is now operating as it should. Be patient for a bit.

Aces4, I have 2 friends, one lost 10 grand, other 40 grand, I’ll tell them to be patient!!!!

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by jbartle1

Aces4, I have 2 friends, one lost 10 grand, other 40 grand, I’ll tell them to be patient!!!!

Yes, if they are in the market and didn't panic sell they should recover. Look at the history of the market. If they have stock and sunk it all in China industries, it may be a long while.

[jbartle1]

Originally Posted by eyc234

So a country is operating as it should when people are losing jobs, paying more for goods across the board, retirement accounts are being destroyed, innocent people are being arrested, people guilty of physically assaulting police officers are pardoned, the financial markets are tanking and the elected government tells you that suffering is good for you.

I could not have a better answer, thank you!

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

US based and factories elsewhere

Thanks to VAT, import taxes, excise taxes, non tax barriers and so forth. What people don't realize is how much they shell out for unemployment, Medicaid, welfare, housing and rent assistance and food pantries for the unemployed in the USA.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by jbartle1

Aces4, I have 2 friends, one lost 10 grand, other 40 grand, I’ll tell them to be patient!!!!

They lost a few bucks through selling or Mr. Market has priced their portfolios down by those amounts? Did they buy high and then sell in the down market? If so, oh my!

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

As things stand now, in 2025, you can transfer up to $13.99 million free of taxes during your lifetime and after your death ($27.98 million for married couples).Jan 13, 2025

Almost $30mil for a married couple.........................Not a significant number of people that will be polluting their children and impacting society.

Don't forger the annual gift tax exclusion. $19K/donee in 2025. Gift Tax: 2024-2025 Exemptions and Limits - NerdWallet

[bopat]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

Correct but bet you felt better in December.

Feel great now. I'm in it for the long term like most at my investment level. Those that chase with their emotions lose the most.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by jbartle1

Aces4, I have 2 friends, one lost 10 grand, other 40 grand, I’ll tell them to be patient!!!!

Market goes up and goes down but long term does trend upward.

No reason to panic.

BTW until they sell it is just a paper loss

[Normal]

Originally Posted by kingofbeer

They moved overseas because it is much cheaper to manufacture overseas. Not because of taxes.

Taxes and labor are always reasons for businesses to make choices. They go hand in hand.

[Boomer]

Sooooo, I was just perusing this thread to see what you all had to say today.

There sure were a lot of chickens being counted this morning.

When I began buying stocks online and would have a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day, I would print the front page of my account, put it in my desk drawer, and wait. Doing that worked like a vaccination against market volatility. I do not panic. Most longtime dividend players do not panic because they feel like if they have made solid choices of stocks, they will get paid to wait. But I don't kid myself. A lot of investors remember GE and what happened under the wrong CEO.

All that being said, I do not think this will be a quick turnaround. I think a lot of wait-and-see time will be going by because every day brings a fresh hell of antics. It's the unpredictability of those antics that could/should cause business leaders and big investors to just bide their time and not make any sudden moves.

Looks like the Regurgitation Nation is being fed some line about how we have to go through hard times and suffer for the cause -- and they are lapping that line right up. Gimme a break. This is not WWII when the Homefront had to do its part. This is a self-inflicted wound. Will it heal? Who knows.

Boomer

PS: Speaking of dividends, a few hours ago, boring old PG increased its dividend. That makes 69 consecutive years of dividend increases -- every early April, like clockwork. The company has paid a dividend for 135 years. Procter and Gamble, one a candle-maker and one a soap-maker, decided to go into business together in 1890, in Cincinnati. They were married to sisters.

[rsmurano]

Originally Posted by kingofbeer

Gaslighting! "In 2018, Trump imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, resulting in price increases for Americans"

If they were so bad, why are they in place? How much did each American have to pay? If you make a statement like this, you should have proof. During trumps 1st term, I remember Pepsi in cans being much cheaper than they were at the end of 2024. I don’t remember anybody protesting they had to pay some exorbitant amount of increase for aluminum can products.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Sooooo, I was just perusing this thread to see what you all had to say today.

There sure were a lot of chickens being counted this morning.

When I began buying stocks online and would have a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day, I would print the front page of my account, put it in my desk drawer, and wait. Doing that worked like a vaccination against market volatility. I do not panic. Most longtime dividend players do not panic because they feel like if they have made solid choices of stocks, they will get paid to wait. But I don't kid myself. A lot of investors remember GE and what happened under the wrong CEO.

All that being said, I do not think this will be a quick turnaround. I think a lot of wait-and-see time will be going by because every day brings a fresh hell of antics. It's the unpredictability of those antics that could/should cause business leaders and big investors to just bide their time and not make any sudden moves.

Looks like the Regurgitation Nation is being fed some line about how we have to go through hard times and suffer for the cause -- and they are lapping that line right up. Gimme a break. This is not WWII when the Homefront had to do its part. This is a self-inflicted wound. Will it heal? Who knows.

Boomer

PS: Speaking of dividends, a few hours ago, boring old PG increased its dividend. That makes 69 consecutive years of dividend increases -- every early April, like clockwork. The company has paid a dividend for 135 years. Procter and Gamble, one a candle-maker and one a soap-maker, decided to go into business together in 1890, in Cincinnati. They were married to sisters.

I suppose that slow, sure ride to Hades worked for so many but did anyone notice the sled was really picking up speed? Many are so focused on their "portfolio" and don't have a clue as to what the real issues or problems are other than the stock market.

Where this country was heading is far worse than WWII and we have made the turn but aren't out of the woods yet. When the leader of another country states that the diagnosis of the current situation being tackled is correct, you know this can't go on.

[rsmurano]

Out of the last 40+ years of doing my own investing, I have sold most everything 2x and that was at the end of 2021 and 4 months ago. I stayed in during the 2000’s meltdown, the 2007/8 financial crisis, and the COVID crisis in 2020. I was a long term investor and let it ride. Now, I’ll sell in a heartbeat when I think it’s close to its highs. When you are in your 50’s and older, why do you want to ride a crisis out? You know a recession can happen at anytime and last a few years and then it could take years of gains to get to where you were years ago. Also, just because you have dividends coming in today, doesn’t mean that they will be there tomorrow, during bad recessions this is the 1st thing that companies stop paying.

You have heard the phrase: “pigs get slaughtered!” This applies to people that keep stocks/funds forever instead of taking part or all of the gains from a big jump and put it into another stock/fund that is low and out of favor but has good potential. There were many stocks that I got in during late 2022 and during early 2023 that had 100’s % gains and then I got out of all of them during 2024 and everything else last December and bought money market instead. Did I sell at their highest peaks? No, I don’t time the market for the highest highs or for the very bottom. So I made 200% on 1 instead of 250%, or I sold Apple to soon because it went up 15% after I sold, but I made 100% during the time I had it, so I’m not going to fret the small stuff.

Now, just like in 2022, I want the market to go down another 20%. I want to see Apple back around $140, nvidia lower by 15% - 20%, and a lot more good companies go much lower so they are ripe to make someone a lot of money when the recovery starts.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Thanks to VAT, import taxes, excise taxes, non tax barriers and so forth. What people don't realize is how much they shell out for unemployment, Medicaid, welfare, housing and rent assistance and food pantries for the unemployed in the USA.

Unemployment compensation is an insurance program, and the premiums are paid by employers. Only some unemployed people qualify for it, and it's only available for 12 weeks unless a state provides more than that. In the case of state-sponsored extensions, those extra payments are usually paid for out of state income tax payroll deductions. Florida doesn't have income tax.

But if all the money paying for unemployed people is that big a deal, maybe more people should've made a louder noise when DOGE started firing tens of thousands of government workers whose families relied on their income - and now have none.