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Old 05-01-2023, 10:48 AM
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EDIT:I WOULD ONLY LEAVE IT IN THE MM FOR 6 MONTHS THEN BACK TO VTTVX

Should i move all funds to Vanguard Federal MM? I have it currently in VTSAX and VTTVX. I'm not the best at reading my returns but neither have paid a dividend or a very small one this year. Its an IRA. Ive been to a financial advisor but these interest rates have gone up in the last few months so i question whether i should do their recommendations at this time.

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Old 05-01-2023, 11:10 AM
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Should i move all funds to Vanguard Federal MM? I have it currently in VTSAX and VTTVX. I'm not the best at reading my returns but neither have paid a dividend or a very small one this year. Its an IRA. Ive been to a financial advisor but these interest rates have gone up in the last few months so i question whether i should do their recommendations at this time. I would have about 1 million in the MM if i make this change, i know that is over that SPIA limit.
It sounds like you want to move out of stocks and into a 100 percent bond portfolio. If so, I would suggest that you spread the money into several Vanguard funds, such as:

Federal Money Market fund (30 percent)
Short Term Bond Index fund (30 percent)
Total Bond Market Index fund (25 percent)
High Yield Corporate Bond fund (15 percent)

Stay away from any long term bond funds, where the average bond duration is more than about 8 years. Just a suggestion.
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Is your advisor suggesting that you should be 100% in fixed income?
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Old 05-01-2023, 12:33 PM
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Sounds like a very very bad move. I think you should talk to several advisors and find one to manage your money and help you project your need for funds from the million. My assumption is you do not have investment skills and you need help since you are thinking of moving all your money to cash.
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Old 05-01-2023, 12:56 PM
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Gigi3000,

If I may, I am jumping the track a little here to offer a suggestion.......

I must give some unsolicited of advice, woman to woman. I assume you are a woman named Gigi. (I am a woman named Boomer.)

When I saw what you wrote in your post, I just have to say that if I were you, I would never mention my own numbers when talking about investments. I think it's fine to discuss investments, taxes, etc., in general, but I always keep specific numbers to myself -- definitely in real life, and on TOTV, too, even though it might feel anonymous here.

(This is not intended to be a criticism or to try to embarrass. It is just a little reminder that it is best to keep your own numbers to yourself when talking about money matters.)

Re. moving money, I think you can speak with someone at Vanguard on the phone to ask questions -- not sure about that though, but someone here will know.

If you prefer a bricks and mortar meeting, Fidelity has offices in various locations where you can line up an in-person meeting. There is an office in TV. You can also arrange for a phone call with a Fidelity advisor -- I think. I would avoid advisors in banks. But that's just my personal aversion to bank advisors showing.

Also, be careful of those guys who always want to buy you dinner first.

Boomer

PS: Don't expect tax advice from financial advisors because they are usually not tax accountants.
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OP, note that my post was based on the premise that you have already decided to move your stocks and balanced target fund into a 100 percent fixed income IRA. If that is the case, then I think my suggestions are appropriate. However, there is no way that anyone can advise you on how to structure the overall diversity of your investments without considering your total financial and life situation, including your age, income, and other assets. I am not a proponent of financial advisors, but you may need to consult with a fee only planner, who is a fiduciary and who will not try to sell you commission based products. I believe that any investor can use Vanguard products to design a retirement portfolio. You can probably get some good advice from a Certified Financial Planner who works for Vanguard. There may be a small fee. Good luck.
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Is your advisor suggesting that you should be 100% in fixed income?
No. The IRA was suppose to be all moved VTTVX
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OP, note that my post was based on the premise that you have already decided to move your stocks and balanced target fund into a 100 percent fixed income IRA. If that is the case, then I think my suggestions are appropriate. However, there is no way that anyone can advise you on how to structure the overall diversity of your investments without considering your total financial and life situation, including your age, income, and other assets. I am not a proponent of financial advisors, but you may need to consult with a fee only planner, who is a fiduciary and who will not try to sell you commission based products. I believe that any investor can use Vanguard products to design a retirement portfolio. You can probably get some good advice from a Certified Financial Planner who works for Vanguard. There may be a small fee. Good luck.
Oh of course. I appreciate your input. You're always very helpful. A fee only advisor is who I had consulted.
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Sounds like a very very bad move. I think you should talk to several advisors and find one to manage your money and help you project your need for funds from the million. My assumption is you do not have investment skills and you need help since you are thinking of moving all your money to cash.
I have a fee only advisor who I consulted 6 months ago. It's just so easy to see my dividend on the MM fund and not as easy to see what the returns are on Target 2025 fund. Thx tho
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Should i move all funds to Vanguard Federal MM? I have it currently in VTSAX and VTTVX. I'm not the best at reading my returns but neither have paid a dividend or a very small one this year. Its an IRA. Ive been to a financial advisor but these interest rates have gone up in the last few months so i question whether i should do their recommendations at this time. I would have about 1 million in the MM if i make this change, i know that is over that SPIA limit.
Without knowing your total financial picture nobody can make any specific suggestions. Depending on your age you might need to have your funds last for 30 or more years.

Suggest a fee only financial advisor but talk to a couple and decide whom you would be comfortable with.
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Not sure I would be putting all this on a social media site.
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Sounds like a very very bad move. I think you should talk to several advisors and find one to manage your money and help you project your need for funds from the million. My assumption is you do not have investment skills and you need help since you are thinking of moving all your money to cash.
I agree and I would recommend talking to a fee only financial advisor rather than an investment broker who would love to get your million into something that will pay them a good commission
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Old 05-02-2023, 06:33 AM
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Should i move all funds to Vanguard Federal MM? I have it currently in VTSAX and VTTVX. I'm not the best at reading my returns but neither have paid a dividend or a very small one this year. Its an IRA. Ive been to a financial advisor but these interest rates have gone up in the last few months so i question whether i should do their recommendations at this time. I would have about 1 million in the MM if i make this change, i know that is over that SPIA limit.
I would recommend NOT moving all the funds, you should move a PORTION of the funds to a bond fund. To feel more comfortable you can move 50% of the funds to the MM fund for the current moment.

You may have a tax bill when you perform the transaction, depending upon the account type.

As a corporate finance professional, I would concur with others to find a fee only CFP and have a review with him/her to better allocate your money.

Retiredguy has a good recommendation for the PORTION you transfer to fixed income. The outlook for gains for this decade of equity returns are not a rosy as the prior decade. and the current outlook is not rosy either. However, not rosy just means smaller price increases / returns and should not be taken as meaning a crash. . as many histrionic black and white types might interpret. . .

if worried, transfer 1/2 to MM and RUN to see a fee only CFP, and do not look at the choice as all or nothing.
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Old 05-02-2023, 06:47 AM
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Without knowing your age, or other details, it's hard to give good advice. Someone suggested a financial planner (good idea). Depending on your age, income and other factors, maybe you should think about moving some of that money to a ROTH. I've been moving the IRA to a ROTH over the past few years and will finish up, about the time the tax rates go back up.
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With that amount just put in an interest only account, plus your pension, you are not going to starve.
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