Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2423003)

Tariffs on hold for 90 days? Sounds like "we (?)" blinked when they didn't.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423079)

I don't doubt that you like it, was it manufactured in their American plant?

AI Overview: Toyota Camry is assembled in the United States, specifically at Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc. (TMMK) in Georgetown, Kentucky.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2423059)

The average person does NOT like CHANGE. They don't like to gamble, especially with hard earned money in investment accounts. They prefer economic STABILITY and investments with minimum downsides and a CONSTANT, while small upside. Today we have MAXIMUM financial change. Leaving the small investors perplexed and frightened. Small investors were surprised by the SUDDEN CHANGE to Tariffs for virtually everyone. The question then is, "What class of investors would BENEFIT in this NEW and quickly changing world". I would imagine that it would be those INVESTORS that ALWAYS have benefited from rapid change. Those that probably KNOW that the change is coming. That would be the upper 1 % in the US and world. They communicate with EACH other, not the lowly bottom feeding 99%. The 1% KNEW that radical universal tariffs would start the US market DOWN. So, that was their chance to SHORT the market. It was a no-brainer for the 1% and a fantastic opportunity, with zero risk. They just have to NOT be too greedy and get out before the market comes back. They can even BUY on the way back up. Likely they benefited from some sort of insider information.

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2423085)

Japanese technology

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2423085)

Japanese technology.

Independent of where a Camry is ASSEMBLED 100% of the parts are sourced from the same source - including Camrys made in Japan.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423090)

And American manufacturing skills, beautiful!

Architects may design homes but it's the labor which creates the finished product and often have to correct errors in the plans.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423084)

Seriously? You aren't going to look at what has been going on in full detail so you are educated on the when, wheres and whys but you're wondering how Canada's newpapers read? Yikes!:22yikes:

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2423100)

Yes, Canada is our LARGEST trading partner. Also until recently Canada was our friend and followed us into 2 World War. So now out of the BLUE (the red, white, and blue) we pull a fast one on them and lay Tariffs on them. We, the US of A, are the bad guys in this movie. We should be ashamed.

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2423094)

90% of assembly lines = robots. Robots don't make errors. Humans that program robots make errors.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423093)

And you're sure Americans could never cast or create identical parts because after all, we have become stupid and lazy. I whole heartedly disagree.

Ours is the country that built ships and airplanes quickly during WWII and is teaming with innovation and brilliance counter to what some would have us believe and continue to espouse. If you tell someone often enough that they can never do that, they begin to believe you.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423089)

So you didn't get the message tariffs were coming and the date? How did you miss that?

We had to go out for errands today and strangely enough, didn't see anyone shaking, cowering in corners, crying or red eyed or wringing their hands. The world is still turning and time is needed to accomplish the goal. Hopefully, trade will be balanced on the needs of every country so EVERY COUNTRY has the opportunity for fair trade without tariffs, excise taxes, VATS and non-tariff barriers.

Also bringing certain manufacturing back to the USA is critical for the security of this nation so essential supplies are not withheld from us if a disagreement or worse happens.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423093)

And you're sure Americans could never cast or create identical parts because after all, we have become stupid and lazy. I whole heartedly disagree.

Ours is the country that built ships and airplanes quickly during WWII and is teaming with innovation and brilliance counter to what some would have us believe and continue to espouse. If you tell someone often enough that they can never do that, they begin to believe you.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2423110)

I agree with the last paragraph. High end semiconductors, medical equipment, and national security equipment need to be made in the USA. The difference, I see, is that these things take years (maybe 3 or 4) to operationalize. A large factory might take 6 to 10 years to get going. AI and robotics need to be part of top end products. We have, at least, two advantages over China. We don't have to ship goods over a large ocean to get our products to us. When we trade with China they STEAL our technology. And our LARGEST market Canada is very close to us and up until recently, we had great working relations between us and Canada. China has the disadvantage of its political system.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423104)

Why don't you do some actual fact checking on Canadian tariffs and restrictions for trade with American and get back to us.

I am not ashamed and a fast one wasn't pulled and that language creates hate which isn't needed in the trade conversation.

I love Canada and Canadians even more. We have met some wonderful Canadians in The Villages. If Canada would agree to discuss the trade restrictions and policies with the USA, who is to say what deal could be worked out. Toxic hyperbole is a nonstarter and does no country any favors.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2423111)

The US DID have some advantages before and after WW2. Back then we had a REAL middle class with wealth brought about by relatively good primary and secondary schools and large labor union participation. Also there was a tax system that favored the middle class and NOT the upper class like today.