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Pugchief 04-10-2025 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2422993)
My $198 50 inch Onn tv works just fine.
My Whirlpool dishwasher broke in December.
Not at all random or anecdotal. [/eyeroll]

jimjamuser 04-10-2025 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2423003)
Tariffs on hold for 90 days? Sounds like "we (?)" blinked when they didn't.
I bet that the newspapers in Canada have NICE things to say about us.

fdpaq0580 04-10-2025 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2423037)
I bet that the newspapers in Canada have NICE things to say about us.
Only if by "NICE" you mean "HUMILIATING". PS, and well deserved, imo

Normal 04-10-2025 01:58 PM
It has always been there
 
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2422995)
I am wondering how this global economic fight initiated by the US helps world economics. And then is there any :unintended consequences that get reflected back on the US. We certainly are NOT making any FRIENDS in the free world. And I wonder if we are making any friends in the non-free world?
This fight was “initiated” long before now. Tariffs are used by almost every country, they manipulate trade. We have turned the other cheek for way too long. It is correct to address deficit and debt to get our country in order. Tariffs contribute to our trade deficit.

eyc234 04-10-2025 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GWilliams (Post 2422996)
Negotiations are ongoing.
:shrug: No proof of that! That is what has been said for the last 3 months and no arrangements.

jimjamuser 04-10-2025 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2423045)
By the way, just a reminder that the trade agreements with Canada and Mexico that Mr. T railed at and implied only an idiot would have signed and were so bad for the US, were His proposal USMCA from the g20 conference, 2019.
Not taking sides, just looking at history related to the current tariff situation to try and make sense of it.
The average person does NOT like CHANGE. They don't like to gamble, especially with hard earned money in investment accounts. They prefer economic STABILITY and investments with minimum downsides and a CONSTANT, while small upside. Today we have MAXIMUM financial change. Leaving the small investors perplexed and frightened. Small investors were surprised by the SUDDEN CHANGE to Tariffs for virtually everyone. The question then is, "What class of investors would BENEFIT in this NEW and quickly changing world". I would imagine that it would be those INVESTORS that ALWAYS have benefited from rapid change. Those that probably KNOW that the change is coming. That would be the upper 1 % in the US and world. They communicate with EACH other, not the lowly bottom feeding 99%. The 1% KNEW that radical universal tariffs would start the US market DOWN. So, that was their chance to SHORT the market. It was a no-brainer for the 1% and a fantastic opportunity, with zero risk. They just have to NOT be too greedy and get out before the market comes back. They can even BUY on the way back up. Likely they benefited from some sort of insider information.

Topspinmo 04-10-2025 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2422801)
Islands inhabited with penguins only were 1st in line.
Maybe the penguins has high tariff on imported fish? Fish from middle of Congo want to get eaten with paying a tariff? :oops:

Topspinmo 04-10-2025 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2423059)
The average person does NOT like CHANGE. They don't like to gamble, especially with hard earned money in investment accounts. They prefer economic STABILITY and investments with minimum downsides and a CONSTANT, while small upside. Today we have MAXIMUM financial change. Leaving the small investors perplexed and frightened. Small investors were surprised by the SUDDEN CHANGE to Tariffs for virtually everyone. The question then is, "What class of investors would BENEFIT in this NEW and quickly changing world". I would imagine that it would be those INVESTORS that ALWAYS have benefited from rapid change. Those that probably KNOW that the change is coming. That would be the upper 1 % in the US and world. They communicate with EACH other, not the lowly bottom feeding 99%. The 1% KNEW that radical universal tariffs would start the US market DOWN. So, that was their chance to SHORT the market. It was a no-brainer for the 1% and a fantastic opportunity, with zero risk. They just have to NOT be too greedy and get out before the market comes back. They can even BUY on the way back up. Likely they benefited from some sort of insider information.
Average persons have no investments especially in stock market.

Topspinmo 04-10-2025 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2423008)
It doesn't.
And imho, our "leadership" doesn't understand the concept of friendship, and only wants tools that can be easily manipulated. Time will tell.
Have a nice day. 🙂
A friend don’t charge you double or triple.

Aces4 04-10-2025 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Danube (Post 2422972)
Losing in the ukraine... what is (western) Europe going to do about it? Invade?
Right now the discussion is about tariffs so I'm going to focus on the subject on hand and not bring up every other world issue of which I can think.

Aces4 04-10-2025 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2422987)
My Toyota Camry delivers me all the quality I require.
I don't doubt that you like it, was it manufactured in their American plant?

AI Overview: Toyota Camry is assembled in the United States, specifically at Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc. (TMMK) in Georgetown, Kentucky.

Aces4 04-10-2025 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2422995)
I am wondering how this global economic fight initiated by the US helps world economics. And then is there any :unintended consequences that get reflected back on the US. We certainly are NOT making any FRIENDS in the free world. And I wonder if we are making any friends in the non-free world?
Perhaps you could go back to the people who over the past thirty years have claimed that something needs to be done about the trade inequities. They are silent now but then again, I'm not surprised.

Aces4 04-10-2025 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2423037)
I bet that the newspapers in Canada have NICE things to say about us.
Seriously? You aren't going to look at what has been going on in full detail so you are educated on the when, wheres and whys but you're wondering how Canada's newpapers read? Yikes!:22yikes:

rustyp 04-10-2025 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2423079)
I don't doubt that you like it, was it manufactured in their American plant?

AI Overview: Toyota Camry is assembled in the United States, specifically at Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky, Inc. (TMMK) in Georgetown, Kentucky.
Japanese technology.

Independent of where a Camry is ASSEMBLED 100% of the parts are sourced from the same source - including Camrys made in Japan.

Stu from NYC 04-10-2025 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2423052)
:shrug: No proof of that! That is what has been said for the last 3 months and no arrangements.
We have no way of knowing one way or another as to whether negotiations are going on but logically believe they are.


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