China's products are all over America. They just got clever and ship them out through different venues.

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Some countries, like Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, and Malaysia, have been identified as playing a role in facilitating the export of Chinese products to the US, potentially to evade tariffs, by shifting assembly operations to these countries and then exporting finished goods to the US from there.

The EU has advised China not to plan on dumping their extra product on them and hurting their economy.

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We get such a deal don't we? While we buy low quality stuff from China and save all that money, we then peel out a fortune in taxes at home for the jobless, Medicaid, food stamps, housing/rental assistance and so forth.

No. Not instant gratification. We want to be alive to see our economy & 401K’s get back to where they were a few months ago.

About right
 

Yes, that’s what it amounts to. Walmart and Dollar General will have to establish new supply chains. Actually Dollar General should be named Chinese Mart.

The CHIPs and American Science Act Boondoggle of waste is now being replaced with action and reality. If only we could claw back that 200 billion in waste. Hopefully we get chip manufacturing up and running fast enough here. We actually had great numbers for inflation this month at negative.1 percent.

When factories were closed down and moved overseas, it wasn't because the American worker quit.. it was because of the artificially low priced products being dumped here from offshore manufacturing. Artificially because we all pay out of our pockets for the jobless population, big time.

I miss the high quality products from American hands. Shoes, clothing, machinery, furniture.. you name it. Now we have a lot of disposable cr*p.

If you're over 65 and still at the casino shooting craps, (stock market), you've been exposed to volatility when you should be in safe investments and FDIC insured.

The market will recover, it always does eventually. If you are invested in China, you may be out of luck.

You understand why uninhabited islands were included, right?

Tariffs, which imposed a baseline 10% tax on imports from over 180 countries and territories, included remote and uninhabited locations like the Heard and McDonald Islands, an Australian territory in the sub-Antarctic with no human population. Several explanations have emerged for this unusual decision.

One key rationale, articulated by U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, is the aim to close potential loopholes in trade policy. Lutnick argued that listing even uninhabited territories prevents other countries from exploiting them as conduits to ship goods into the U.S. and evade tariffs. This perspective suggests a deliberate strategy to ensure no region, regardless of its population or economic activity, could be used to circumvent the tariffs, drawing from past experiences where countries like China rerouted exports through third parties during Trump's first term.

In the early 2000s, the U.S. was a much larger destination for Chinese exports, often accounting for 20-25% of China’s total export market. By 2018, this had already dropped to around 19% of exports (still higher than the 2024 figure). Total trade (exports plus imports) with the U.S. made up a larger share as well—closer to 13-15% in the mid-2010s. The decline reflects China’s growing trade with regions like Southeast Asia, the EU, and Belt and Road countries, alongside trade war tariffs and supply chain shifts starting in 2018.

A 70% share would imply an overwhelming dependence on the U.S. market, which never materialized. China’s trade has always been spread across multiple partners—Hong Kong, Japan, Europe, and others—even before its modern diversification push. The U.S. influence was substantial but never approached that extreme level, even in the most U.S.-centric years.

My Toyota Camry delivers me all the quality I require.
My $198 50 inch Onn tv works just fine.
My Whirlpool dishwasher broke in December.

I am wondering how this global economic fight initiated by the US helps world economics. And then is there any :unintended consequences that get reflected back on the US. We certainly are NOT making any FRIENDS in the free world. And I wonder if we are making any friends in the non-free world?

Negotiations are ongoing.

Tariffs on hold for 90 days? Sounds like "we (?)" blinked when they didn't.

AKA "economic terrorism" by some.