[CoachKandSportsguy]

Will Putin invade Ukraine?
What's the end game?
US recreating "Wag the Dog?"

What if and this is economic analysis, not political analysis, China and the old soviet union want to inflict maximum economic damage to the West?

Could Russia bankrupt the USA? You'd have to do the mental game theory, but let's say Russia imposes sanctions on the USA. Just the USA. A total ban of titanium, aluminum, oil, natural gas, hot women, etc.. The USA's finances are already in a risky position, what would the above do to it?

U.S. Battles Putin by Disclosing His Next Possible Moves - The New York Times

Not bankrupting but weakening US significantly - increasing inflationary pressure. More significant is the energy situation with Europe - if Russia can handle sanctions from the west (with chinese support) then europe and us will be weakened significantly.

Is this a distraction for China to invade Taiwan?

Or is the buildup just leverage for Russia being desperate for Germany to approve the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline. It's built, just not operational. Needs German regulatory approval, which is being held up.

Europe relies heavily on Russian natural gas .

Excellent NYT article about the information - disinformation game between Putin and the West. China and russia always want to test Western leadership at times of change. .

good luck all, but the markets could be a bit chaotic for a bit!

[JoelJohnson]

Putin's only concern is how history shows him. He wants to "reunite" Ukraine with Russia to recreate the "old empire". In reality Russia took over all those countries and ruled them with an iron hand. Some wonder why we should care about Ukraine, well, let's remember when Hitler took over Poland, and other counties and no one wanted us to get involved. If Germany didn't declare war on us (which got us into the war) he might have seceded in keeping Europe. Plus Ukraine is a democracy and we need to protect ANY country that may lose it (including our own).

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Well, looks like there is a group of russian separatists, ie, pro-russian 1997 geopolitical org wannabees is baiting ukraine to attack under the false flag pretext for putin to give himself the victimhood green light

Looks like Putin did in fact wait until after the olympics to not take the world spot light away from China.

What is the biggest change from any other war type experience is that there are hundreds to Tik Tok videos showing where the russian tanks are, and showing them crossing bridges at nigher in convoys, etc. The whole thing will be documented on TikTok which most likely putin has never heard of nor seen. . . and has not taken into account. Some of the videos and pictures out of ukraine have the GPS coordinates as well. .

my personal target SP500 3200 with increasing interest rates and commodity prices. . as a fair market value.. . .
will plenty of internet worldwide disruptions. . .

good luck everyone

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

Putin's only concern is how history shows him. He wants to "reunite" Ukraine with Russia to recreate the "old empire". In reality Russia took over all those countries and ruled them with an iron hand. Some wonder why we should care about Ukraine, well, let's remember when Hitler took over Poland, and other counties and no one wanted us to get involved. If Germany didn't declare war on us (which got us into the war) he might have seceded in keeping Europe. Plus Ukraine is a democracy and we need to protect ANY country that may lose it (including our own).

he appears particularly upset should ukraine join nato. he said something about it being a cause for nuclear war. maybe he's using troops as a bargaining tool? example: he will remove troops if everyone agrees to keep them out. opinions most welcome

[tvbound]

Does Putin desperately want to reestablish the entirety of the old USSR?

"I don't see any reason why he would."

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by JoelJohnson

Putin's only concern is how history shows him. He wants to "reunite" Ukraine with Russia to recreate the "old empire". In reality Russia took over all those countries and ruled them with an iron hand. Some wonder why we should care about Ukraine, well, let's remember when Hitler took over Poland, and other counties and no one wanted us to get involved. If Germany didn't declare war on us (which got us into the war) he might have seceded in keeping Europe. Plus Ukraine is a democracy and we need to protect ANY country that may lose it (including our own).

Excellent post and spot on!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Will Putin invade Ukraine?
What's the end game?
US recreating "Wag the Dog?"

What if and this is economic analysis, not political analysis, China and the old soviet union want to inflict maximum economic damage to the West?

Could Russia bankrupt the USA? You'd have to do the mental game theory, but let's say Russia imposes sanctions on the USA. Just the USA. A total ban of titanium, aluminum, oil, natural gas, hot women, etc.. The USA's finances are already in a risky position, what would the above do to it?

U.S. Battles Putin by Disclosing His Next Possible Moves - The New York Times

Not bankrupting but weakening US significantly - increasing inflationary pressure. More significant is the energy situation with Europe - if Russia can handle sanctions from the west (with chinese support) then europe and us will be weakened significantly.

Is this a distraction for China to invade Taiwan?

Or is the buildup just leverage for Russia being desperate for Germany to approve the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline. It's built, just not operational. Needs German regulatory approval, which is being held up.

Europe relies heavily on Russian natural gas .

Excellent NYT article about the information - disinformation game between Putin and the West. China and russia always want to test Western leadership at times of change. .

good luck all, but the markets could be a bit chaotic for a bit!

30 plus trillion in debt I’ll go out on limb and say we are already bankrupted. IMO By end of 2023 could be 40 Trillion in debt. When it final hits stock market it’s going to tank like we’ve never seen it before.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Does Putin desperately want to reestablish the entirety of the old USSR?

"I don't see any reason why he would."

He's like Jake and Elwood... He want's to get the band back together!

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

Will Putin invade Ukraine?
What's the end game?
US recreating "Wag the Dog?"

What if and this is economic analysis, not political analysis, China and the old soviet union want to inflict maximum economic damage to the West?

Could Russia bankrupt the USA? You'd have to do the mental game theory, but let's say Russia imposes sanctions on the USA. Just the USA. A total ban of titanium, aluminum, oil, natural gas, hot women, etc.. The USA's finances are already in a risky position, what would the above do to it?

U.S. Battles Putin by Disclosing His Next Possible Moves - The New York Times

Not bankrupting but weakening US significantly - increasing inflationary pressure. More significant is the energy situation with Europe - if Russia can handle sanctions from the west (with chinese support) then europe and us will be weakened significantly.

Is this a distraction for China to invade Taiwan?

Or is the buildup just leverage for Russia being desperate for Germany to approve the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline. It's built, just not operational. Needs German regulatory approval, which is being held up.

Europe relies heavily on Russian natural gas .

Excellent NYT article about the information - disinformation game between Putin and the West. China and russia always want to test Western leadership at times of change. .

good luck all, but the markets could be a bit chaotic for a bit!

Excuse me but isn't this a political reference that is NOT allowed? Hello Administrator

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Bella6368

Excuse me but isn't this a political reference that is NOT allowed? Hello Administrator

See nothing wrong with the post.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bella6368

Excuse me but isn't this a political reference that is NOT allowed? Hello Administrator

They don't read every post. Report posts you find offensive. THEN, they will see it...

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Putin Chooses a Forever War - The Atlantic

Just one of the old soviet guys wanting his old empire back . . . . the sign of a mid life crises. .

maybe, just maybe the public information campaign worked to neutralize the misinformation campaign. . will still be interested on how each side can declare victory

Oil still might be an issue maintaining its $90 price range. .
diesel is above $4.00 up here in the NE

[CoachKandSportsguy]

World War III just started

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

World War III just started

II hope you are wrong. One thing Putin learned over the past 5 year - no matter how "strong" America's commitments are, they are only one election away from being meaningless. This was predictable the moment we turned our backs on our partners (who did not hesitate to come to our aid after 9/11).

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Why did Putin invade Ukraine? Nothing more than he dearly misses the old Soviet Union, which he believes through history, he is determined to maintain and correct the recent 30 years of change. Just another world dominating desirous ego. . . with no regard for anyone else's life

Ukraine's Ancient Hatreds | The National Interest

And many never thought this could happen again, in areas which have suffered with wars, but the difference is the historical indoctrination of history of the past injustices as the goal, instead of moving forward and realizing those transgressions of the past can be let go and move forward with a better today.

there are many similarities to religion as well. . .

watch out for taiwan next