[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by rubicon

The majority of native Americans do not see an issue and some find it flattering. It appears the same segment in society that appears offended by about everything is pushing this non-issue.

I long for the days before political correctness where ethic humor was viewed as inclusion vis a vis derogatory. Some people need to get a life

[Pepperhead]

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[onslowe]

Political correctness is a divisive current trend in this country. It's really bad when it grows into thought control. Theodore Roosevelt was right when he decried the prevalence of 'hyphenated Americans.' E pluribus unum and all that.

[BarryRX]

Redskins is a demeaning way to refer to native americans. I wonder if everyone would think this is a tempest in a teapot if we were rooting for the New York Kikes or the New Jersey Wops. What is a derogatory term for your ancestry? Now imagine how a team with that name would make you feel.

[Halle]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

Redskins is a demeaning way to refer to native americans. I wonder if everyone would think this is a tempest in a teapot if we were rooting for the New York Kikes or the New Jersey Wops. What is a derogatory term for your ancestry? Now imagine how a team with that name would make you feel.

I know I wouldn't be happy with a team named the Miami Spics.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

Redskins is a demeaning way to refer to native americans. I wonder if everyone would think this is a tempest in a teapot if we were rooting for the New York Kikes or the New Jersey Wops. What is a derogatory term for your ancestry? Now imagine how a team with that name would make you feel.

One derogatory term for my ancestry is "Nazi". There are quite a few people nowadays who insist on politically correct language for their preferred groups, but yet they throw that term like lye on their ideological opponents to silence them and brand them as unworthy of having freedom of speech and thought.

If a team were dumb enough to call themselves "the Nazis", it would be a miserable failure in the marketplace. The reason the Indians, Braves and Redskins have not failed with these names in their marketing and ticket sales is because most Americans realize it is a term passed down thru tradition and generations of people who are PROUD of these players and the team. And thinking people know true "racism" when they see it, and this ain't it.

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

One derogatory term for my ancestry is "Nazi". There are quite a few people nowadays who insist on politically correct language for their preferred groups, but yet they throw that term like lye on their ideological opponents to silence them and brand them as unworthy of having freedom of speech and thought.

If a team were dumb enough to call themselves "the Nazis", it would be a miserable failure in the marketplace. The reason the Indians, Braves and Redskins have not failed with these names in their marketing and ticket sales is because most Americans realize it is a term passed down thru tradition and generations of people who are PROUD of these players and the team. And thinking people know true "racism" when they see it, and this ain't it.

It's not racism to you, but perhaps we should let those hurt and affected by the name decide. Just because those that are insulted by the name do not represent a large enough demographic to move the market doesn't make it less of a derogatory term. I can think of a bunch of terms that had been passed down through generations of people that we wouldn't even think of using today.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

It's not racism to you, but perhaps we should let those hurt and affected by the name decide. Just because those that are insulted by the name do not represent a large enough demographic to move the market doesn't make it less of a derogatory term.

Hmmm...I'm not so sure I'm certain of that. If only a very small part of a demographic is insulted, I would think that it would raise doubt about how insulting it is.

[DougB]

What about those losers, the Miami Dolphins? Calling themselves Dolphins is a disgrace and an insult to dolphins world-wide.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

For the the same reason that calling a person Black is NOT racist. There is no intent to insult or denigrate. All of this PC stuff actually creates a racist atmosphere caused by the resentment of being called racist unfairly.

If a black person asks that you call him black not colored, not negro and you refuse you are not respecting him as an equal human. If next week he instead asks that you call him an African American and you refuse you again are not respecting him.

If your friend John decided he would rather be called Jack you would do your best to remember to call him Jack. All this "PC stuff" is called the real world by those it hurts and the pain inflicted by those who refuse to learn from the experience of those who are offended is real and tells the observer much about the decency and humanity of the refusers. If the speaker cannot be bothered to remember to call a black person whatever term he prefers it says that the black person's wishes are of no importance. That devaluing of the black person is very much intentional unless the speaker has a medical reason limiting his ability to learn and retain.

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

Hmmm...I'm not so sure I'm certain of that. If only a very small part of a demographic is insulted, I would think that it would raise doubt about how insulting it is.

I disagree. There are only about 3 million Native Americans in the country, and not many of those are in the Washington D.C. area where this marketplace is. Just because they are a small demographic does not remove their right to demand basic respect as a human being.

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by onslowe

Political correctness is a divisive current trend in this country. It's really bad when it grows into thought control. Theodore Roosevelt was right when he decried the prevalence of 'hyphenated Americans.' E pluribus unum and all that.

And don't forget our media for their part in stirring the pot. Political correctness is really nothing more than a tool to get americans to turn on each other. Quite frankly I for one look forward to upcoming christmas partys this year. I don't attend holiday partys.

[kbace6]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

Redskins is a demeaning way to refer to native americans. I wonder if everyone would think this is a tempest in a teapot if we were rooting for the New York Kikes or the New Jersey Wops. What is a derogatory term for your ancestry? Now imagine how a team with that name would make you feel.

I couldn't care less what anyone calls me. I know who I am and where my heritage hails from. Call me a "Harp" or a "Frog" and I take no offense. In fact I am proud of my (Harp) Irish (Frog) French heritage. My wife who is 100% Indian calls me a mutt. Be proud of who you are and where you come from regardless if the word used can be or is considered derogatory. Political correctness be damned!

[kbace6]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

What about Boston making fun of Indians' Red Socks? Kind of disrespectful.

Now this is funny!

http://nesn.com/2013/10/jake-peavy-t...-statue-photo/

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by DougB

What about those losers, the Miami Dolphins? Calling themselves Dolphins is a disgrace and an insult to dolphins world-wide.

You're right. At least real dolphins would have been a little proud of them for 2 quarters of the game on sunday.