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cappyjon431 07-14-2012 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 521834)
The real issue here is that our neighbors sole purpose for putting this hedge fence is to create a "doggy park" for his dogs. Those are his exact words. The sole purpose of this hedge fence is to keep his dogs on his property WITHOUT a leash. The hedges are not landscaping purposes. They are to create a dog park/fence in his yard. The second issue is that this doggy park/hedge fence will block our view. The Covenants &Restrictions clearly states, and I quote "pets must be controlled on a leash when not in the confines of the home." It also states "No fence, barrier, wall or structure of any kind or nature shall be placed on the property. No side or rear hedges exceeding (4) feet in height shall be permitted.". So, if I understand this correctly, he may put in hedges in, but not so that they create a barrier or wall structure. I overheard him say it would be about 200 shrubs he would be planting. Sounds like a barrier or fence to me. I'm not so sure this topic has gotten out of hand. People are putting in their 2 cents and isn't that what this forum is for?? Everyone has an opinion. It's ok to express your opinion. I never said we were goi g to sue, in fact I said that wasn't for us....we are not that kind of people. Lastly, as for getting along with our neighbors...we are very social with EVERYONE except for this newest one. He has chosen the wrong path....not us. The new neighbor has had an attitude from the start, putting himself in the position of not being welcome by others.
Ike I said before, the neighbors beside him are upset by his doggy park escapades as well. I appreciate everyone's input. We are continuing to follow up on this and will work with the Village District To make sure everyone follows the rules.
Happinow, I understand your concern and I certainly hope that if he is in violation of TV codes that the powers that be stop him from planting his hedge/landscaping.

That being said, I honestly believe that his motivation for putting in the landscaping (to keep his dog/dogs contained) is irrelevent. If he had said "I'm putting it in because I like the design" or "I'm putting it in for privacy" or "I'm putting it in because I like to sunbathe nude and I don't want to offend the neighbors" it would still lead to the same result--he will be obscuring a view that you valued.

In post #35 you wrote, "Honestly it's not the dogs we are concerned with at this point, it's the fact that he is recklessly putting up landscaping without any concern for his neighbors view." But in your last post you wrote "The real issue here is that our neighbors sole purpose for putting this hedge fence is to create a "doggy park" for his dogs. Those are his exact words. The sole purpose of this hedge fence is to keep his dogs on his property WITHOUT a leash." These two statements appear somewhat inconsistant and i think it would be better for all involved if you focused on whether or not he is breaking the rules, not his motivation for putting in his landscaping.

The dog issue is a red herring. Dogs can roam in the backyard offleash if there is an invisible fence. To be honest, I let my dog roam free in the backyard offleash to do his business (under my supervision of course) so that he does not go on my neighbors lawns when I walk him on the leash. None of my neighbors have complained about him being offleash--I don't think it is an issue unless a neighbor complains and so far, I haven't had any complaints.

To me the issue is very black and white. If he is violating TV rules with his landscaping, he should not be permitted to install the landscaping. If he is within his rights (according to the rules), he should be allowed to do what he wants on his own property.

When we try to get inside people's heads and determine their motivations for their actions we open up a can of worms that can cause all sorts of problems.

Good luck with your situation and I hope that everything turns out OK for you.

Happinow 07-14-2012 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 521857)
Wouldn't an invisible fence serve the same purpose at a much lower cost - both financially and emotionally? Had a Great Dane that crossed the fence once - company came back and tuned it up and he never made that mistake again. Yes momentarily it's
probably not the most pleasant experience, but it paid off with years of being able to roam the yard, chase the geese, and pretty much have an awesome and free experience.
I believe it is a one in a million chance the dog won't get it. They can play as free as they were meant to be, the owner has his own dog park and the neighbors are happy. Has anyone considered this option????
We did mention this option to him and he said when he lived in NY, he had one of those and they didn't work. The dogs went through them. Would have been a great option for him as our neighbors to the left of us have one for their little dog and he is never a problem.

jimbo2012 07-14-2012 08:22 PM
If it didn't work for him it was improper training, they do work.

But there's no way a hedge or bush is stopping a dog that's for sure.

KEVIN & JOSIE 07-14-2012 08:31 PM
:rant-rave::boxing2:Can't we all just get along?:boxing2::rant-rave:

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah::

Barefoot 07-14-2012 09:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 521857)
Wouldn't an invisible fence serve the same purpose at a much lower cost - both financially and emotionally? Has anyone considered this option????
I have posted numerous times about the invisible fencing we had installed by Dog Watch in Ocala. We have two dogs, one 10 lbs, and one 70 lbs, and it contains them both beautifully. It won't work unless the owner does some preliminary boundary training before the fence is activated. Dog Watch is great with assisting with the training! It was a pleasure to deal with them.

I hope that Happinow's neighbor considers invisible fencing, which is a Villages approved option.

jane032657 07-14-2012 11:00 PM
Having lived with water views, magnificent water views, in British Columbia for many years, my heart melts when views are blocked because I know how Douglas Firs will get you almost every time in the Pacific Northwest! The real issue in this thread is communication and negotiation when you live in clustered settings. Nothing can be resolved unless both parties are willing to at least discuss the issue and hear each others side. You may never agree, but you will have the chance to exchange opion and try to come to commanality. We all need to compromise when living in close proximity. It is not just about what you spend on your lot, it is about how you feel when you walk out your front door every day, and how you look forward to seeing those around you, and how you value community and your place in it.

gustavo 07-14-2012 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 521557)
Unless you buy a large pie-shaped lot, I don't see how anyone could be guaranteed a totally unobstructed view.
Even a large, pie shaped lot does not insure a 180 view as each house has to be x feet from the street, in line with the neighbors, and you never know how far the neighbor's pool and landscaping will reach.

My wife's been telling me about this thread for the last few days, so we decided to see what the real story was. Took a ride down to Springdale.

Happinow has a pie shaped lot on a cul de sac. Unfortunately for her, the best, unobstructed view does not align with the placement of the house. The view looking straight out the lanai/pool crosses not one but two adjacent lots. She needs to look out the Lanai to the right to see an unobstructed view, which as she said is limited because the lot is lower than the course, especially in that direction. Saw the orange line on the other property, and yes she is going to loose the best view. Even saw the guy with his two dogs walking them on the street chatting with some neighbors.

As I see it, Happi is going to have a tough time convincing this fellow to be a "good"(for her) neighbor because he isn't even the closest neighbor that could obstruct the view, and he lives in the next cul de sac. Not like they will be bumping into each other every day picking up the morning paper.

Happi paid a lot of money for the lot and the house and it's a shame that she thought she was getting a great view.

I also live on a golf course. I paid $16,000 more than Happi did for her lot but got a much better view (championship course green, big oaks, eastern exposure, no cart path and large water hazard). We walked our street for weeks, if not months, knowing the lots would be released soon, trying to determine which lot was "the best". Every night my wife would drag me down there to walk each prospective lot to see which view was unobstructed. Which lot would accommodate the model we chose. Which lot would fit a golf cart garage. Which lot would have room for a pool. Also used the Sumter county plats, which were available even before the lots were released, if you knew where to go to get them, to determine dimensions, easements, drainage and utility box placements. The day the lots were released, we got our first choice of five potential lots. My point is, sometimes you luck into a great view but due diligence insures it.

I hope Happi can realize that this guy is entitled to do what he intends, as I see it. She is on the next block over, even though their properties touch, with another property in between. He also paid a lot of money for his lot and view as well. If for some reason he were forced to remove a "hedge", a plethora of non hedge sugar palms would not be any better for the view from Happi's lanai.

Barefoot 07-15-2012 12:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 522041)
Even a large, pie shaped lot does not insure a 180 view as each house has to be x feet from the street, in line with the neighbors, and you never know how far the neighbor's pool and landscaping will reach.

My wife's been telling me about this thread for the last few days, so we decided to see what the real story was. Took a ride down to Springdale.

Happinow has a pie shaped lot on a cul de sac. Unfortunately for her, the best, unobstructed view does not align with the placement of the house. The view looking straight out the lanai/pool crosses not one but two adjacent lots. She needs to look out the Lanai to the right to see an unobstructed view, which as she said is limited because the lot is lower than the course, especially in that direction. Saw the orange line on the other property, and yes she is going to loose the best view. Even saw the guy with his two dogs walking them on the street chatting with some neighbors.

As I see it, Happi is going to have a tough time convincing this fellow to be a "good"(for her) neighbor because he isn't even the closest neighbor that could obstruct the view, and he lives in the next cul de sac. Not like they will be bumping into each other every day picking up the morning paper.

Happi paid a lot of money for the lot and the house and it's a shame that she thought she was getting a great view.

I also live on a golf course. I paid $16,000 more than Happi did for her lot but got a much better view (championship course green, big oaks, eastern exposure, no cart path and large water hazard). We walked our street for weeks, if not months, knowing the lots would be released soon, trying to determine which lot was "the best". Every night my wife would drag me down there to walk each prospective lot to see which view was unobstructed. Which lot would accommodate the model we chose. Which lot would fit a golf cart garage. Which lot would have room for a pool. Also used the Sumter county plats, which were available even before the lots were released, if you knew where to go to get them, to determine dimensions, easements, drainage and utility box placements. The day the lots were released, we got our first choice of five potential lots. My point is, sometimes you luck into a great view but due diligence insures it.

I hope Happi can realize that this guy is entitled to do what he intends, as I see it. She is on the next block over, even though their properties touch, with another property in between. He also paid a lot of money for his lot and view as well. If for some reason he were forced to remove a "hedge", a plethora of non hedge sugar palms would not be any better for the view from Happi's lanai.
It's very interesting to hear an unbiased report of the situation. Thanks for taking the time to update us.

shcisamax 07-15-2012 06:11 AM
Well said Gustavo. This lot business can be so very tricky and you really have to be on top of the far reaching possibilities when picking your "dream". On an undeveloped landscape, most of us, regardless of how much checking it out we do, don't see the possible after buildout pitfalls. Happinow's lot view is a perfect example. Of course it is a disappointment. But one simply cannot expect a neighbor, no matter how rude or inconsiderate or disliked (an entirely different matter but one that exacerbates the problem) to support someone else's "dream" at their own expense.

Bogie Shooter 07-15-2012 06:45 AM
[QUOTE=gustavo;522041]My wife's been telling me about this thread for the last few days, so we decided to see what the real story was. Took a ride down to Springdale.

It that Springdale street or Springdale Village??

graciegirl 07-15-2012 06:55 AM
[quote=Bogie Shooter;522086]
Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 522041)
My wife's been telling me about this thread for the last few days, so we decided to see what the real story was. Took a ride down to Springdale.

It that Springdale street or Springdale Village??
I think he meant Sanibel

Bogie Shooter 07-15-2012 06:58 AM
[quote=graciegirl;522091]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 522086)

I think he meant Sanibel
It would have been a long trip via Springdale.:wave:

graciegirl 07-15-2012 07:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 522041)
Even a large, pie shaped lot does not insure a 180 view as each house has to be x feet from the street, in line with the neighbors, and you never know how far the neighbor's pool and landscaping will reach.

My wife's been telling me about this thread for the last few days, so we decided to see what the real story was. Took a ride down to Springdale.

Happinow has a pie shaped lot on a cul de sac. Unfortunately for her, the best, unobstructed view does not align with the placement of the house. The view looking straight out the lanai/pool crosses not one but two adjacent lots. She needs to look out the Lanai to the right to see an unobstructed view, which as she said is limited because the lot is lower than the course, especially in that direction. Saw the orange line on the other property, and yes she is going to loose the best view. Even saw the guy with his two dogs walking them on the street chatting with some neighbors.

As I see it, Happi is going to have a tough time convincing this fellow to be a "good"(for her) neighbor because he isn't even the closest neighbor that could obstruct the view, and he lives in the next cul de sac. Not like they will be bumping into each other every day picking up the morning paper.

Happi paid a lot of money for the lot and the house and it's a shame that she thought she was getting a great view.

I also live on a golf course. I paid $16,000 more than Happi did for her lot but got a much better view (championship course green, big oaks, eastern exposure, no cart path and large water hazard). We walked our street for weeks, if not months, knowing the lots would be released soon, trying to determine which lot was "the best". Every night my wife would drag me down there to walk each prospective lot to see which view was unobstructed. Which lot would accommodate the model we chose. Which lot would fit a golf cart garage. Which lot would have room for a pool. Also used the Sumter county plats, which were available even before the lots were released, if you knew where to go to get them, to determine dimensions, easements, drainage and utility box placements. The day the lots were released, we got our first choice of five potential lots. My point is, sometimes you luck into a great view but due diligence insures it.

I hope Happi can realize that this guy is entitled to do what he intends, as I see it. She is on the next block over, even though their properties touch, with another property in between. He also paid a lot of money for his lot and view as well. If for some reason he were forced to remove a "hedge", a plethora of non hedge sugar palms would not be any better for the view from Happi's lanai.
I think you meant Sanibel, not Springdale.

Your post is another argument to rent for awhile to see just what lot you want, as view lots will be sold in hours when released. Even if you do your due diligence and think you have an unobstructed view, you may end up wrong and disappointed. That is the reason to take some deep breaths and wait to see. Most times the planting won't be as bad as you think. It is hard to tell by orange lines just what will be the final outcome. As I said before, least said, soonest mended. But that is a perspective from a 72 year old, which differs from a 52 year old a little.

If in the end, if nothing has changed, or nothing could be changed, and the homeowner on the culdesac behind was within his rights, it would have been better to wait and see and keep the peace.

birdawg 07-15-2012 07:04 AM
Sad to see someone use this forum to bash unsuspecting neighbors, because they dont like what someone is doing with their property. Can we all imagine how you would feel if someone talked about you on this public forum the way this guy has been.

paulandjean 07-15-2012 07:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by birdawg (Post 522098)
Sad to see someone use this forum to bash unsuspecting neighbors, because they dont like what someone is doing with their property. Can we all imagine how you would feel if someone talked about you on this public forum the way this guy has been.
Here-Here. Yes there is a lot of that on this site.I have been told all my life what a caring person I am,and yet sometimes people on this site will bash you for your thoughts.Like the red Corvette line, Must not like General Motors.

gustavo 07-15-2012 07:26 AM
Gracie, yes you are quite correct, I meant Sanibel not Springdale.

skyc6 07-15-2012 07:34 AM
Correct, Shcisamax!
My view is not my neighbors responsibility!

skyc6 07-15-2012 07:38 AM
What guy are you referring to that did the bashing?

The guy that got bashed was the neighbor of Happinow, and Happinow is a woman.
This whole thread is pretty sad for that whole neighborhood, IMHO.

birdawg 07-15-2012 07:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyc6 (Post 522115)
What guy are you referring to that did the bashing?

The guy that got bashed was the neighbor of Happinow, and Happinow is a woman.
This whole thread is pretty sad for that whole neighborhood, IMHO.
The guy was the bashed not the bashie

skyc6 07-15-2012 08:13 AM
Reread and now understand which "he" you meant. Sorry! :)

Gustavo--great research and great post!

graciegirl 07-15-2012 09:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mickhugs (Post 522189)
Happinow should consider selling her house and maybe moving closer to Gracie so that she could check with Gracie before making any decisions.
Could you explain what you meant? I don't quite understand.

And welcome to the forum. Tell us a little about yourself. Are you new to The Villages or just to the forum?

duffysmom 07-15-2012 10:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mickhugs (Post 522189)
Happinow should consider selling her house and maybe moving closer to Gracie so that she could check with Gracie before making any decisions.
Whoa mickhugs, your first post is a shot at Gracie. How about coming out from behind the hedges and tell us about yourself.:wave:

shcisamax 07-15-2012 10:22 AM
Gee ...funny ...I took that post as a compliment to Gracie that she always has the right outlook on things. Amazing how we all see things differently. That is why there is so much difficulty with these darn forums. Without the body language and intonation, it is difficult to know when someone is sincere or sarcastic or taking a swipe or just being factual.

Barefoot 07-15-2012 10:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mickhugs (Post 522189)
Happinow should consider selling her house and maybe moving closer to Gracie so that she could check with Gracie before making any decisions.
I see you've been a member since 2008, and this is your first post. Welcome to posting. I think you're right, we can all benefit from GG's wisdom. However Happinow just built, so I'm sure she doesn't want to sell up and move quite yet. Although the "average" Villager does move three times, reportedly.

I think we're all hoping this situation will be resolved amicably, the shrubs will be maintained at four feet, and peace will prevail.

skyguy79 07-15-2012 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 522222)
Gee ...funny ...I took that post as a compliment to Gracie that she always has the right outlook on things. Amazing how we all see things differently. That is why there is so much difficulty with these darn forums. Without the body language and intonation, it is difficult to know when someone is sincere or sarcastic or taking a swipe or just being factual.
I don't believe there was any ill intention or compliment purposely intent in the post. I believe think it was just an off the wall comment to inject a little humor and was not meant to be offensive. Just my opinion!

Mickhugs, welcome on the occurrence of your first post on TOTV and don't wait another 3 years plus for your next one!

Patty55 07-15-2012 10:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 522222)
Gee ...funny ...I took that post as a compliment to Gracie that she always has the right outlook on things. Amazing how we all see things differently. That is why there is so much difficulty with these darn forums. Without the body language and intonation, it is difficult to know when someone is sincere or sarcastic or taking a swipe or just being factual.
ITA, I took it as a compliment to Gracie and a dig at Happi. IMO GG always gives sane advice

I also think that if this BS is going to make Happi mental, she should think about moving.

jimbo2012 07-15-2012 11:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 522230)
I also think that if this BS is going to make Happi mental, she should think about moving.
Wow, you're a bit harsh--easy to say if it's not your home that you just put your $$$, heart and sole into setting up.

Patty55 07-15-2012 11:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 522254)
Wow, you're a bit harsh--easy to say if it's not your home that you just put your $$$, heart and sole into setting up.
Harsh? I'm thinking more like "realistic" based on my own experience. I don't put my heart and soul into "things" anymore, been to way too many estate sales to do that one.

Grant it, some people thrive on aggravation, I'm not one of them. I'm also not a control freak, I think there is only one thing you can control, your own attitude, not your neighbor, not even fate.

In the past ten or so years I have had my home totally destroyed by lightning (great view still), I lost 5 house pets (4 burned alive in the fire), 3 horses, my 56 year-old sister died last Christmas after spending 5 years in a nursing home from a stroke induced coma. Let's put the shrubs in perspective.

You know what I've learned from all this-Enjoy today, you don't know what tomorrow will bring or what it will take away.

Ever see a moving van folowing a hearse?

birdawg 07-15-2012 12:01 PM
Good advice

skyc6 07-15-2012 12:16 PM
Patty
I am sorry for your loss and the statement about "putting the shrubs in perspective" is certainly one we can all be reminded of. As I said previously, 90% of the world's population could not even imagine all that we have in our country, and certainly not here at TV. Have a good day, all!

KEVIN & JOSIE 07-15-2012 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 522273)
Harsh? I'm thinking more like "realistic" based on my own experience. I don't put my heart and soul into "things" anymore, been to way too many estate sales to do that one.

Grant it, some people thrive on aggravation, I'm not one of them. I'm also not a control freak, I think there is only one thing you can control, your own attitude, not your neighbor, not even fate.

In the past ten or so years I have had my home totally destroyed by lightning (great view still), I lost 5 house pets (4 burned alive in the fire), 3 horses, my 56 year-old sister died last Christmas after spending 5 years in a nursing home from a stroke induced coma. Let's put the shrubs in perspective.

You know what I've learned from all this-Enjoy today, you don't know what tomorrow will bring or what it will take away.

Ever see a moving van folowing a hearse?
100% Correct! Life is too short and can be taken away in an instant. Do we really want to waste our last days worried about what the neighbor wants to do? All this over shrubs? That's why there are restrictions and rules, to keep all on an even playing field. If rules are broken, corrections are made. Wake up in the morning, be thankful for another day of life in a community where your dreams can come true. Enjoy every moment of the day....and let your neighbors do the same. Enjoy your neighbors!

Patty55 07-15-2012 12:26 PM
Truth be told, I wouldn't mind hanging out with the spitting vette guy. He sounds like he could be fun.

:wave:Hey Spitting Vette guy, if you're reading here can I bring my dog over and have a beer?

CarolSells 07-15-2012 12:36 PM
At Last.....
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 522273)
Harsh? I'm thinking more like "realistic" based on my own experience. I don't put my heart and soul into "things" anymore, been to way too many estate sales to do that one.

Grant it, some people thrive on aggravation, I'm not one of them. I'm also not a control freak, I think there is only one thing you can control, your own attitude, not your neighbor, not even fate.

In the past ten or so years I have had my home totally destroyed by lightning (great view still), I lost 5 house pets (4 burned alive in the fire), 3 horses, my 56 year-old sister died last Christmas after spending 5 years in a nursing home from a stroke induced coma. Let's put the shrubs in perspective.

You know what I've learned from all this-Enjoy today, you don't know what tomorrow will bring or what it will take away.

Ever see a moving van folowing a hearse?
Patty,

First, I'm sorry to hear of your losses. It must have been very difficult to lose your sister.

But THANK YOU for having the guts to say it like it is in this thread! Drama is as drama does!

Kudos to you!

:coolsmiley:

birdawg 07-15-2012 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 522296)
Truth be told, I wouldn't mind hanging out with the spitting vette guy. He sounds like he could be fun.

:wave:Hey Spitting Vette guy, if you're reading here can I bring my dog over and have a beer?
Once we get are house sold breakout to cold ones and 2 dog bones

Bogie Shooter 07-15-2012 01:38 PM
The tide seems to be turning................

Patty55 07-15-2012 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by birdawg (Post 522342)
Once we get are house sold breakout to cold ones and 2 dog bones
Sounds like a plan, can we wear those army helmets that have branches on top and sit on the property line?:girlneener:

collie1228 07-15-2012 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 522296)
Truth be told, I wouldn't mind hanging out with the spitting vette guy. He sounds like he could be fun.

:wave:Hey Spitting Vette guy, if you're reading here can I bring my dog over and have a beer?
I just wrote a short comment about how "not nice" that post was, but I'll just delete it and say this is getting personal and probably ought to be closed by the admin. Happinow, in my 62 years I've only had one jerk as a neighbor, and despite my dedication to ignoring his ignorant behavior, I still fumed about him. So I understand your feelings and hope it gets resolved amicably.

Barefoot 07-15-2012 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KEVIN & JOSIE (Post 522293)
100% Correct! Life is too short and can be taken away in an instant. Do we really want to waste our last days worried about what the neighbor wants to do? All this over shrubs? That's why there are restrictions and rules, to keep all on an even playing field. If rules are broken, corrections are made. Wake up in the morning, be thankful for another day of life in a community where your dreams can come true. Enjoy every moment of the day....and let your neighbors do the same. Enjoy your neighbors!
Good attitude, Kevin & Josie. As the Dalai Lama has said ....."Happiness is determined more by the state of one's mind than by one's external conditions, circumstances or events."

hulababy 07-15-2012 05:17 PM
sorry happi to hear your having problems. When we moved in we had a beautiful view from our hot tub and lost it to neighbor planting a fruit tree. also we had beautiful view out our kitchen window and neighbor planted bottle brush. Both views gone. Don't think there is much you can do. that is a DISADVANTAGE of the villages and our homes being so CLOSE. Most people don't think but when you pick out property imagine your neighbor and what they may do. Views can be lost very easily with landscaping. we have two homes (designers) near us on golf course. (we're not on one) both neighbors ended up fighting because one started the idea. Plants that blocked the others views. It just escalated until one neighbor built a extension just to try to keep his view and the other built a larger extension to try to keep his view. I hope it works out for you. Keep us posted.

paulandjean 07-15-2012 05:21 PM
This sounds like something from the past....Like High School.Students "Kissing UP to the popular Students.


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