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GoRedSox! 09-21-2023 08:08 PM

Even the initial Polio vaccine was 85-90% effective, not 100%. It basically eradicated a devastating virus and it certainly was not tested for 10-12 years.

Stu from NYC 09-21-2023 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 2259274)
I got the flu, rsv and Covid shots at Walgreens this week.

I have heard it is best to spread them out some. Did you have any immediate side effects?

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-21-2023 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 2259273)
Follow the money. Now that Pfizer and Moderna have made billions off of government purchases, the FDA now does not object to the use of Ivermectin as an off-label prescription for treatment of Covid.

That is, and was already, patently untrue. That's an internet meme, twisted from a similar-sounding but profoundly different-meaning set of words.

The fact: the FDA has no control over doctors who choose to prescribe medicines off-label. The FDA made a statement to the public explaining exactly that.

"The FDA has no control over" is not the same as "The FDA does not object."

The FDA did, and still does, recommend that people NOT take ivermectin to treat COVID-19. However, they don't have any control over what doctors prescribe. If a doctor DOES prescribe it off-label, and you die as a result of taking the off-label prescription de-wormer, then your family's attorney might want to have a word or two with the doctor.

Just because Charlie Kirk said it on Twitter in August doesn't mean it's true. It wasn't true in November 2022 when the conspiracy nonsense came out, and it's still not true.

Altavia 09-21-2023 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2259297)
I have heard it is best to spread them out some. Did you have any immediate side effects?

A common strategy is to get one vaccine per arm. If you were to have a localized reaction, you can identify which shot was the cause.

They seen to be recommending no more than two at a tint.

Can COVID, Flu, and RSV Shots Be Given at the Same Time? | MedPage Today

Can COVID, Flu, and RSV Shots Be Given at the Same Time?


Many adults ages 60 and up will be eligible for three vaccines this fall -- a COVID boosteropens in a new tab or window, the flu shot, and the new respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) vaccineopens in a new tab or window -- so the big question is, can they get them all at once?

Since there are no data on giving this trio of vaccines at the same time, most experts advise a different strategy.

Take flu and COVID together, they told MedPage Today. The CDC endorses thisopens in a new tab or window, as there's evidence and experience that people can take this combination just fine.

There's also some evidence from the clinical trials of the two RSV vaccines that it's okay to give flu and RSV shots together, said William Schaffner, MD, of Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee, who is also a spokesperson for the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA).

But Schaffner told MedPage Today that some practitioners may be "a little bit more cautious about giving RSV along with the others," and there "may not be too many people who want to get all three at the same time."

"If there's one [shot] that doctors might want to treat separately, it might be this newbie [RSV], because there simply hasn't been that much experience with it," he said.

It's a single-dose vaccine, so that means seniors would need just two appointments this fall: one for COVID and flu, and the other for RSV.

Schaffner and other experts recommended getting the RSV vaccine at least 2 weeks on either side of the COVID and flu combination, and getting the RSV shot as soon as possible, since it's currently available, and since its protection is likely to sustain through the entire winter and RSV season.

"We can start giving this right now because it's supposed to, according to the data, provide substantial long-term protection through at least one RSV season, and maybe longer," Schaffner said. "It looks as though there is indeed longer-term protection than we get with flu or COVID [vaccines]."

That said, it's OK to give all three at once if that is the only opportunity to do so, said Aaron Glatt, MD, of Mount Sinai South Nassau in Oceanside, New York, who is also a spokesperson for IDSA.

"We don't have a ton of data, but if someone is really that sick, I'd want them to get all those vaccines," Glatt told MedPage Today. "The problem with waiting is, will they get the vaccine? If they need three visits to the doctor, how many people are willing to do that?"

Two Bills 09-22-2023 02:11 AM

Regarding having both the flu vaccine and Covid Booster at same time.
I always put a week or two between injections.
My wife had both once, in different arms and had a very bad reaction.
Knocked her way over, and felt ill for several days.
She also now spaces her injections, and has no further problem.
Some patients seem fine with both, and others not.
As a personal opinion, I think a week or so between injections is the way to go.

Cobullymom 09-22-2023 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2259269)
When each person gets the vaccine they are doing the rest of society a favor because that is one less person available to SPREAD the disease.

One less person to spread the disease?? Hahaha, just when has the Covid jab stopped the disease?? Wow, talk about disinformation...oh unless you mean the side effects take them out, then you are correct..

Suzay 09-22-2023 05:29 AM

We got both on These at Walgreens ,go out of the Villages !

Suzay 09-22-2023 05:30 AM

No side effects, just sore arm

Susan1717 09-22-2023 06:35 AM

With the worry still of covid and new variants, should we stop letting millions of unchecked, untested migrants in?

Altavia 09-22-2023 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 2259322)
One less person to spread the disease?? Hahaha, just when has the Covid jab stopped the disease?? Wow, talk about disinformation...oh unless you mean the side effects take them out, then you are correct..

Have you seen hospitals overflowing with patients drowning on their own body fluids lately? Looks like that aspect was stopped.

During the later stages of the pandemic, nine out of ten people hospitalized for COVID were unvaccinated.

This continued until over 70% of the population was vaccinated and (combined with natural immunity) we achieved heard immunity. Just as science predicted.

Virus are not political. This data was replicated globally with over nine billion people vaccinated.

The vaccinated protected you. You're welcome.

ndf888 09-22-2023 06:58 AM

Use the same arm for COVID vaccine shots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2259308)
Regarding having both the flu vaccine and Covid Booster at same time.
I always put a week or two between injections.
My wife had both once, in different arms and had a very bad reaction.
Knocked her way over, and felt ill for several days.
She also now spaces her injections, and has no further problem.
Some patients seem fine with both, and others not.
As a personal opinion, I think a week or so between injections is the way to go.

Makes sense to me to spread them by a week or so since many people, myself included, experience fatigue the day after a shot. I also try to get Covid shots in the same arm, as it was shown to generate stronger immune response according to some studies.

COVID shots in same arm may elicit better immune response | CIDRAP

kendi 09-22-2023 07:17 AM

Thanks for the reminder to get our flu shots. Not interested in the covid booster

jimjamuser 09-22-2023 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2259305)
A common strategy is to get one vaccine per arm. If you were to have a localized reaction, you can identify which shot was the cause.

They seen to be recommending no more than two at a tint.

Can COVID, Flu, and RSV Shots Be Given at the Same Time? | MedPage Today

Can COVID, Flu, and RSV Shots Be Given at the Same Time?


Many adults ages 60 and up will be eligible for three vaccines this fall -- a COVID boosteropens in a new tab or window, the flu shot, and the new respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) vaccineopens in a new tab or window -- so the big question is, can they get them all at once?

Since there are no data on giving this trio of vaccines at the same time, most experts advise a different strategy.

Take flu and COVID together, they told MedPage Today. The CDC endorses thisopens in a new tab or window, as there's evidence and experience that people can take this combination just fine.

There's also some evidence from the clinical trials of the two RSV vaccines that it's okay to give flu and RSV shots together, said William Schaffner, MD, of Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee, who is also a spokesperson for the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA).

But Schaffner told MedPage Today that some practitioners may be "a little bit more cautious about giving RSV along with the others," and there "may not be too many people who want to get all three at the same time."

"If there's one [shot] that doctors might want to treat separately, it might be this newbie [RSV], because there simply hasn't been that much experience with it," he said.

It's a single-dose vaccine, so that means seniors would need just two appointments this fall: one for COVID and flu, and the other for RSV.

Schaffner and other experts recommended getting the RSV vaccine at least 2 weeks on either side of the COVID and flu combination, and getting the RSV shot as soon as possible, since it's currently available, and since its protection is likely to sustain through the entire winter and RSV season.

"We can start giving this right now because it's supposed to, according to the data, provide substantial long-term protection through at least one RSV season, and maybe longer," Schaffner said. "It looks as though there is indeed longer-term protection than we get with flu or COVID [vaccines]."

That said, it's OK to give all three at once if that is the only opportunity to do so, said Aaron Glatt, MD, of Mount Sinai South Nassau in Oceanside, New York, who is also a spokesperson for IDSA.

"We don't have a ton of data, but if someone is really that sick, I'd want them to get all those vaccines," Glatt told MedPage Today. "The problem with waiting is, will they get the vaccine? If they need three visits to the doctor, how many people are willing to do that?"

Actually, I am going to take 3 visits. I had the flu shot 2 days ago.

Vermilion Villager 09-22-2023 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2258799)
Both Walgreens and Publix are out of the vaccine!
There are no schedule dates available for Sumter county.
Anybody else running into same issue (on line).

I guess we will try walk in and see what we get (or not).

It appears that Walgreens does not have the Moderno vaccine but does have a stock of Pfizer. According to the CDC it is OK to mix and match and some Studies are showing that the efficacy is equal if not slightly higher if you do mix-and-match.

Vermilion Villager 09-22-2023 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susan1717 (Post 2259345)
With the worry still of covid and new variants, should we stop letting millions of unchecked, untested migrants in?

Every migrant stopped at the border is tested for Covid.....You get an A for effort though.


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