[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Someone with Zero shots and zero tests could be blissfully wandering around society and be asymptomatic. Thus acting like a "typhoid Mary"!

Not a very good point. My wife is vaccinated and caught covid from a neighbor that was fully vaccinated and thought that she was protected. And she gave it to me and I am vaccinated. Yes, someone not vaccinated can be "blissfully wandering around society and be asymptomatic" but so can someone that is vaccinated. It's better just to say that those vaccinated are somewhat protected from the virus, not fully protected.

[billethkid]

Isn't the point of having the vaccination to reduce/eliminate hospitalization and death potential?

Not that the vaccine prevents being infected.

[gpk111]

Originally Posted by toeser

I have had three shots, I'm over 75, and I'm done. The virus seems to be weaker now, and I have read far too much about the potential side effects of getting these vaccines over and over and over.

Please share any information you have found that describes side effects of getting vaccinated "over and over and over." I would be very interested, as I am considering getting my fourth shot.

Lots of data on side effects and breakthroughs or persistent symptoms, but nothing on adverse effects of a fourth shot when you have had no symptoms from the first three.

Thanks

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

Based on my experience, 100% of the people I know who have recently gotten COVID have been double vaccinated, and 90% had the booster. In fact, the people I know (just a few) who haven't gotten the vaccine still have not gotten COVID.

Unless an individual gets tested regularly and by regularly I mean at least once per week, NO ONE knows if they have had Covid or not. Asymptomatic infection is just that........asymptomatic. That means NO SYMPTOMS.

As an aside......I've been tested only twice for cruising and was negative both times. That may not mean I have not ever had Covid. I just may have but was asymptomatic, just like anyone else who claims they have never had Covid.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

100% of the people I know who have recently gotten COVID have had both vaccines and the booster.
You may want to blame people that haven't gotten the vaccine. But based on what I have seen the virus is infecting people who have gotten the vaccine... and booster.
I know of 2 people who were double vaccinated and had the booster and died from COVID.

Just wondering.......were those two people who died from Covid immunocompromised? Folks who are immunocompromised do not get the full benefit, if any at all, of the vaccine protection.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Isn't the point of having the vaccination to reduce/eliminate hospitalization and death potential?

Not that the vaccine prevents being infected.

Yes. That is my understanding.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Isn't the point of having the vaccination to reduce/eliminate hospitalization and death potential?

Not that the vaccine prevents being infected.

That's the point NOW...

Initially, we were told that it would prevent infection... Yet here we are...

[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Just wondering.......were those two people who died from Covid immunocompromised? Folks who are immunocompromised do not get the full benefit, if any at all, of the vaccine protection.

One of the individuals was in their late 80's. I don't know the medical history of these individuals, but one of them was on a cruise right before they came down with COVID. So they were healthy enough to go on a cruise. I don't believe either individual had any life-threatening illness (eg. cancer).

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

One of the individuals was in their late 80's. I don't know the medical history of these individuals, but one of them was on a cruise right before they came down with COVID. So they were healthy enough to go on a cruise. I don't believe either individual had any life-threatening illness (eg. cancer).

So, they had their vaccinations before they left on their cruise and caught covid and died anyway, right? Not trying to imply anything, just wondering if we are still wanting to blame death by covid on the unvaccinated, or finally admitting that the vaccination is not quite the miracle elixir that everyone wishes it to be. I am not down playing the worth of the vaccination, and have mine but some folks seem to believe that it is ONLY the unvaccinated that are dying from covid. We were on line every morning to get our vaccinations, driving hours to our appointment, and still caught covid. Yes, it was a mild version, but the point is that you can't depend on just a vaccination to protect you. You must be prudent in your daily activities until this thing dies out, IF it does.

[Dorebea]

Originally Posted by Koapaka

We have had exactly ZERO shots and avoided it as well...what makes you think anything you have had (so far) is the reason you have not been infected?????

IMO: I have not been hit by a car crossing the street but I still look both ways every time (as insurance!). Clearly the vax does not prevent covid but it does lessen the severity if it is contracted. And…there are documentated cases (in fact just saw one on the local news last night) about people with even mild covid symptoms suffering from longer term after effects (including balance issues, blood clots, lack of energy etc). Look at The Villages Newcomers (Jerry & Linda). They say they are not yet back to 100% more than 3 weeks after contracting covid with mild symptoms.

The rate of infection, especially severe infection went down consistently across the world as vaccinations increased. That correlation is good enough for me. Will I get / need a forth shot? Haven’t decided yet. I do get annual flu shots so maybe I’ll do an annual booster if that is recommended. Neither me nor anyone I know who was vaccinated has had severe reactions to the vaccine. On the other hand, you don’t get a ‘do-over’ if you forego the vaccine and become severely ill or worse yet, die. Not worth the risk to me.

[MDLNB]

We were both vaccinated, and we caught the dreaded covid. Even though she tested positive twice, she still insisted that she had nothing more than a mild cold. She still adamantly insists that it couldn't have been covid, since it was milder than colds she has had. On the other hand, I do not get the flu and hardly ever catch a cold. Probably ten years since I had a cold. Covid gave me a congested head and a sore throat and some coughing. No fever. My taste was distorted, which made tomato sauce based food taste terrible and sweet foods taste extra sweet. No effect on my sense of smell.
Supposedly, we now have an abundance of antibodies plus the vaccination so we should be in pretty good shape. Supposedly, those that have had covid have three times the protection of those that are vaccinated. Add the vaccination to that protection and we should be able to enjoy a fairly normal lifestyle. I probably won't be getting boosters for it. It is waning right now, and that looks to be a pretty good forecast for the future. That's my opinion and I did not mean to influence anyone else's decision. I may be totally wrong, but that is just my reasoning on the booster idea. One thing that also makes a difference is that I have NO medical issues, and that should be a consideration in anyone's rationale when making health care choices.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I would think if one decided to get the 3rd shot (booster) in the initial days they would do so again for the 4th shot (booster).

The CDC direction is pretty specific. There does not seem to be much discussion regarding getting the 4th shot.


Using the same criteria we we did for shot number 3 we will be scheduling our 4th shot.

All about money 💰. Why stop at 4.

[MDLNB]

You're talking about a 4th shot and currently we are being told to delay getting the second shot for a few more weeks, instead of getting it at four weeks. Not sure if they are even sure about what is best, but like some say....their information is "evolving." Who knows if a third shot (booster) is even needed. Or, maybe they want us to get a booster every three months. I've been vaccinated and still got the covid so I don't know if a booster is even needed FOR ME.

[waterflower]

Do you think you were played....

[Bay Kid]

Who to believe? So easy to be lied to.