[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os

Teaching hospitals are some of the best. Unfortunately a retirement community that has a population on Medicare will never attract doctors, especially young ones who have enormous debt from their years of medical school. Medicare simply does not pay what private insurances pay for the same services. It is no wonder that residents don’t want to land here to continue learning. It is no difference here than in areas like Naples, etc where most are insured by Medicare. Unless we as a nation work to give incentives to those people wanting to become physicians, the long waiting times for appointments and surgeries will continue..here and everywhere. IMHO

Agreed, nice post !

[LuvNH]

I can comment on bringing in good professional nurses and doctors. My elderly aunt was in hospital and when she found out the nurse was "not white" she would not let her get anywhere near to her. She was not alone in her thinking. Maybe things have changed greatly since that time, but elderly people still have a problem with foreign care givers.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

The plan to make TVRH a teaching hospital training new doctors was announced in The Daily Sun over a year ago.

My original post in this tread was not an attempt to throw shade at the Developer. It was UFHealth which withdrew it’s support of the new, larger teaching hospital, not the Developer.

I agree with other posters here—the healthcare problem in the U.S. is getting worse. It can’t improve until we begin training enough new doctors to replace those leaving the profession. Last year 114,000 doctors retired or left practice for other reasons. But U.S. medical schools only graduated something like 76,000 new doctors. The shortfall will have to be made up by doctors trained in foreign medical schools who choose to emigrate to the U.S..

Immigration - the cheap and dirty solution to ALL US problems. Don't do the RIGHT thing......always do the EASY thing. And then complain because the roads are too crowded. Well, yes there are more people using them. And just invite unskilled workers to come through our Southern sieve so-called border.........that WON'T be a problem.
......Don't build more University medical teaching facilities - just bring them in from foreign countries - that IS the cheap and dirty method - and disregard the US citizens that served in US wars.......their children that would like to have gone into the medical professions.

[LuvNH]

Quixote made an excellent point regarding the cost of drugs. Both my husband and I are using Eliquis. My cardiologist recommended that we purchase from Pharmstore a Canadian company, which we do. But I am also on a very expensive BP med. One month of this is over $48, but I can buy 100 pills for about $60 from Canada. In my opinion this is disgraceful. If I can buy it at that price, why is my drug store having to charge so much more. It is a racket

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Quixote

How ignorant to describe UF Health The Villages Hospital as ‘not real.’ No, it’s not the Cleveland Clinic, Massachusetts General Hospital (Boston), Mount Sinai Hospital and Columbia-Presbyterian Medical Center (New York City), Mayo Clinic (Rochester MN and other locations); by comparison it’s a small local hospital where I recently took my son for emergency surgery, and the care he received was outstanding.

The elephant in the room is largely unaddressed in this thread; I refer to the insurance industry that has a huge bearing on US medical care. Up north I had two specialists in completely unrelated areas who had both joined existing practices and eventually became the senior members as the older doctors retired.

The one hated so much what was happening with the insurance dictates and controls in the medical field that he convinced his daughter not to become a physician (meaning one doctor less); instead, she went to veterinary college, thus remaining in medical care; and he himself retired early. Before doing so, he had joined his practice with that of the other unrelated specialist to create a corporate structure. I asked both why, and both gave the same answer: to have at least the illusion of having some power and control, since insurance dictates prevented them from practicing medicine as they had been trained. Sad.

Why can one buy the same Eliquis made by Pfizer from a Canadian mail-order pharmacy, where a three-month supply costs as little as $78 plus $10 shipping, while to use our Medicare Part D Prescription Drug Plan one would have to pay over $400? Check it out yourself at Drug Price Comparisons & Online Pharmacy Safety | PharmacyChecker.com. One need only to look at how—and when—Part D was created to realize that it’s a great bonanza—to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries—not especially to seniors.

I’m a dual citizen (US/Canada), and over the years I’ve heard Americans bash the Canadian system of universal health care by citing the waiting periods some have to endure. My Canadian relatives could certainly have afforded to buy private insurance to supplement their provincial plans, but none felt the need to. Many Americans have no understanding of the meaning of ‘triage’—treatment based on urgency rather than time of arrival. Our hospital emergency facilities are treated as primary care by those who are uninsured, and while perhaps an exaggeration (or perhaps not…), it’s been asked in ER waiting rooms (likely not in these words): ‘Why is that possible stroke victim who just arrived being taken ahead of me when I’ve been here for hours with this sprained ankle?’ Am I exaggerating?...

Good post. The Canadians have National Health Care because they DESERVE it as opposed to US citizens that suffer through this crapola that the US calls a healthcare system that benefits only the upper executives in the Insurance RIPOFF Industry. WE get what we DESERVE because we don't complain about or even UNDERSTAND the US system. WE are like mushrooms being fed cow DUNG.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by RedChariot

I recently spoke to a young physician at The Villages Health. All the seniors here in TV do the happy dance. You see this as Nirvana. But think of a doctor and his family coming to live in Central Florida. Just think about it. I don't want to be derogatory about this area. There is not a lot for them in our surrounding area. The only plus is the Charter school. Certainly minimal cultural events. He has spent many years and a huge sum of money to end up here? I wonder what picture was painted to attract him here.
Regarding the nursing shortage. I was a Cerified Critical Care Registered Nurse in NJ. I rose through the ranks and was eventually promoted. I was in Nursing Administration for years. There has always been a nursing shortage, but Florida was always worse. Low, low wages, high patient assignments, poorly trained ancillary staff. In 1987 our hospital went to the Philippines and recruited Registered Nurses. Offered them housing, good pay. They had to be fluent in English both spoken and written. It took dedication from everyone for this transition to be successful. And it was. The Philippine nurses saved the nursing profession on the east coast of the USA beginning in 1987.
The powers that be at TVRH need to step up and think out of the box.

Possible solution - how about taking the excessive salaries of the Insurance Companies CEOs and overpaid staff and splitting that up among the young Doctors and nurses to encourage them to work in Fl hospitals and other states where needed? US society deserves better than the current situation.

[jfarineau]

Originally Posted by spinner1001

Where did you hear that the UF hospital near Spanish Springs was going to be a teaching hospital?

UFHealth never said they were making UFHealth The Villages Hospital a teaching hospital. The initial plan was to build a hospital campus that included a medical school with a residency program and a nursing school in the south of Sumter County. The location was moved to Lake County because of the a major tax increase proposed by the "new county commissioners"....Gary Search and Orin Miller.

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Possible solution - how about taking the excessive salaries of the Insurance Companies CEOs and overpaid staff and splitting that up among the young Doctors and nurses to encourage them to work in Fl hospitals and other states where needed? US society deserves better than the current situation.

One of the most profitable areas of healthcare right now are the Medicare Advantage plans. They take in huge sums of money and do this by limiting access and finding “sicker” patients by over testing. They are then allowed to charge more for these “sicker” Medicare patients than their regular reimbursement from Medicare. The hospitals and doctors get squeezed and the insurance companies, by their shrewdness, make billions.

[champion6]

Don't forget that the construction of two hospitals have already been announced. Each will have a different focus - one, acute care; the other, rehabilitation.

Two stories from the online news site:

1. Construction expected to begin in 2023 on hospital at Trailwinds Village
October 29, 2022
Construction is expected to begin in 2023 on a 60-bed acute care hospital at Trailwinds Village, owned by HCA Healthcare which already owns a free-standing ER at Trailwinds Village.

2. 50-bed inpatient rehab hospital to be built south of State Road 44 in The Villages
October 2, 2022
Encompass Health Corp. has announced it plans to build Encompass Health Rehabilitation Hospital of Wildwood, a freestanding, 50-bed inpatient rehabilitation hospital. The hospital will be located south of the Meggison Road and Warm Springs Avenue intersection.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os

Teaching hospitals are some of the best. Unfortunately a retirement community that has a population on Medicare will never attract doctors, especially young ones who have enormous debt from their years of medical school. Medicare simply does not pay what private insurances pay for the same services. It is no wonder that residents don’t want to land here to continue learning. It is no difference here than in areas like Naples, etc where most are insured by Medicare. Unless we as a nation work to give incentives to those people wanting to become physicians, the long waiting times for appointments and surgeries will continue..here and everywhere. IMHO

i'd say you're lucky, i've had my worst experiences @ teaching hospitals, & would never consider using 1 again

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The WHOLE HEALTHCARE problem could be easily solved by National Health Care like all the OTHER CIVILIZED countries in Europe and Asia. But, then the POOR Insurance executives would be forced to live in poverty........at a lowly $300,000 per year

oh dear God, please no!

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Primary education where I came from (up North) was 1st class back in the (literally) old school days. I had a GREAT Physics teacher, geometry teacher, advanced math, and a Spanish teacher in High School. We did NOT have to go to a Private school to get a good education. In fact, they did NOT even exist - only a Catholic high school which was OK quality-wise.

Catholic schools would not tolerate half the crap from today's students. it's my guess they'd be expelled by noon, no questions asked

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by LuvNH

I can comment on bringing in good professional nurses and doctors. My elderly aunt was in hospital and when she found out the nurse was "not white" she would not let her get anywhere near to her. She was not alone in her thinking. Maybe things have changed greatly since that time, but elderly people still have a problem with foreign care givers.

too funny! my Britsih hubby prefers Jamaicans

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by jfarineau

UFHealth never said they were making UFHealth The Villages Hospital a teaching hospital. The initial plan was to build a hospital campus that included a medical school with a residency program and a nursing school in the south of Sumter County. The location was moved to Lake County because of the a major tax increase proposed by the "new county commissioners"....Gary Search and Orin Miller.

This, when Sumter county was threatening to impose the impact fee, they moved the hospital into Lake County (see one of GoldWing Nut’s videos).

The new hospital will be a teaching hospital - it will be brand new and state of the art.
And the students will have access to the entire UF health system, including Jacksonville.

Florida is just opening up its nursing licensing system to a network allow reciprocity for nurses - the traveling nurses I know would love to come here, but their license doesnt transfer yet.

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

This, when Sumter county was threatening to impose the impact fee, they moved the hospital into Lake County (see one of GoldWing Nut’s videos).

The new hospital will be a teaching hospital - it will be brand new and state of the art.
And the students will have access to the entire UF health system, including Jacksonville.

Florida is just opening up its nursing licensing system to a network allow reciprocity for nurses - the traveling nurses I know would love to come here, but their license doesnt transfer yet.

The plans for the new UF Hospital south of 44 which was supposed to be built on the Lake County line has been put on hold. I heard a Villages Hospital official talk at a Villages club meeting this winter and he said that hospitals are no longer profitable and that the new UF hospital is not moving forward at this time. He also talked about the nursing shortage and that they were thinking of getting foreign nurses.