[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by blueash

Raw food and paleo dieters 'at risk of a dangerous obsession with nutrition' | Daily Mail Online

Take your online test to see if you have orthorexia nervosa here:

Orthorexia nervosa - when healthy eating is no longer healthy (EUFIC)
�Do you spend more than 3 hours a day thinking about your diet?
�Do you plan your meals several days ahead?
�Is the nutritional value of your meal more important than the pleasure of eating it?
�Has the quality of your life decreased as the quality of your diet has increased?
�Have you become stricter with yourself lately?
�Does your self-esteem get a boost from eating healthily?
�Have you given up foods you used to enjoy in order to eat the �right� foods
�Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat out, distancing you from family and friends?
�Do you feel guilty when you stray from your diet?
�Do you feel at peace with yourself and in total control when you eat healthily?

Yes to 4 or 5 of the above questions means it is time to relax more about food.
Yes to all of them means a full-blown obsession with eating
healthy food.

This is such an important piece of information, but obsessed people cannot and will not recognize their obsession.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by blueash

Raw food and paleo dieters 'at risk of a dangerous obsession with nutrition' | Daily Mail Online

Take your online test to see if you have orthorexia nervosa here:

Orthorexia nervosa - when healthy eating is no longer healthy (EUFIC)
�Do you spend more than 3 hours a day thinking about your diet?
�Do you plan your meals several days ahead?
�Is the nutritional value of your meal more important than the pleasure of eating it?
�Has the quality of your life decreased as the quality of your diet has increased?
�Have you become stricter with yourself lately?
�Does your self-esteem get a boost from eating healthily?
�Have you given up foods you used to enjoy in order to eat the �right� foods
�Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat out, distancing you from family and friends?
�Do you feel guilty when you stray from your diet?
�Do you feel at peace with yourself and in total control when you eat healthily?

Yes to 4 or 5 of the above questions means it is time to relax more about food.
Yes to all of them means a full-blown obsession with eating
healthy food.

Thanks for posting this. I read it the other day but decided not to mention it. I'm trying to lower my aggravation level.

[KayakerNC]

Originally Posted by blueash

Raw food and paleo dieters 'at risk of a dangerous obsession with nutrition' | Daily Mail Online

Take your online test to see if you have orthorexia nervosa here:

Orthorexia nervosa - when healthy eating is no longer healthy (EUFIC)
�Do you spend more than 3 hours a day thinking about your diet?
�Do you plan your meals several days ahead?
�Is the nutritional value of your meal more important than the pleasure of eating it?
�Has the quality of your life decreased as the quality of your diet has increased?
�Have you become stricter with yourself lately?
�Does your self-esteem get a boost from eating healthily?
�Have you given up foods you used to enjoy in order to eat the �right� foods
�Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat out, distancing you from family and friends?
�Do you feel guilty when you stray from your diet?
�Do you feel at peace with yourself and in total control when you eat healthily?

Yes to 4 or 5 of the above questions means it is time to relax more about food.
Yes to all of them means a full-blown obsession with eating
healthy food.

Do you feel you must constantly preach to the ignorant masses because you have the revealed diet TRUTH?

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I respectfully disagree. Genetic changes cannot be passed from species to species. If the caveman ate lettuce of some sort, the lettuce has probably changed drastically genetically over the years. If you eat a chicken who has inherited an autosomal dominant genetic trait you can't be affected by it or harmed from it. People are quick to not understand how genetics work and what gene therapy and gene manipulation can and cannot do.

I strongly support stem cell research and did so when they used aborted fetuses which Thankfully is no longer necessary. Genetic research is the way to solve some of the most horrendous diseases that affect mankind.

Smoking is much more an issue to worry about than Monsanto. Noxious by products from people and industry and cars. That to me is another unsolvable problem. We will eventually kill our planet but hopefully by that time, the human race will have been able to find another to move to and effect the move. Greenies can worry and fuss and do small things, but they are not going to get much done. We aren't going to negate or reverse the industrial revolution.

There is always hope and our decent human brains. Some one of us, long after we are gone will figure it out.

Sermon for the day. My views only. As I get older I am overwhelmed by ignorance; mine and the worlds, so many more questions than easy answers.

I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement! What is put onto and into our food has been proven to be detrimental to our health, and Monsanto has been proven to lie about the extent to which some of its chemicals gets into/onto our food.

here's one link, but there are many others. The Horrific Truth About Monsanto's Roundup Herbicide

As for giving up on "saving the earth" because we can't do anything about it, that attitude is very problematical to me. I would hate to have to explain that to my 13-month-old grand-niece, whom I just met and fell instantly in love with last week.

Never say never, is how I feel about it.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement! What is put onto and into our food has been proven to be detrimental to our health, and Monsanto has been proven to lie about the extent to which some of its chemicals gets into/onto our food.

here's one link, but there are many others. The Horrific Truth About Monsanto's Roundup Herbicide

As for giving up on "saving the earth" because we can't do anything about it, that attitude is very problematical to me. I would hate to have to explain that to my 13-month-old grand-niece, whom I just met and fell instantly in love with last week.

Never say never, is how I feel about it.

I think how we feel about a lot of things has to do with how we look at things politically.

I like dogs CFrance. And I love yours.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by blueash

Raw food and paleo dieters 'at risk of a dangerous obsession with nutrition' | Daily Mail Online

Take your online test to see if you have orthorexia nervosa here:

Orthorexia nervosa - when healthy eating is no longer healthy (EUFIC)
�Do you spend more than 3 hours a day thinking about your diet?
�Do you plan your meals several days ahead?
�Is the nutritional value of your meal more important than the pleasure of eating it?
�Has the quality of your life decreased as the quality of your diet has increased?
�Have you become stricter with yourself lately?
�Does your self-esteem get a boost from eating healthily?
�Have you given up foods you used to enjoy in order to eat the �right� foods
�Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat out, distancing you from family and friends?
�Do you feel guilty when you stray from your diet?
�Do you feel at peace with yourself and in total control when you eat healthily?

Yes to 4 or 5 of the above questions means it is time to relax more about food.
Yes to all of them means a full-blown obsession with eating
healthy food.

Now back to this.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I respectfully disagree. Genetic changes cannot be passed from species to species. If the caveman ate lettuce of some sort, the lettuce has probably changed drastically genetically over the years. If you eat a chicken who has inherited an autosomal dominant genetic trait you can't be affected by it or harmed from it. People are quick to not understand how genetics work and what gene therapy and gene manipulation can and cannot do.

I strongly support stem cell research and did so when they used aborted fetuses which Thankfully is no longer necessary. Genetic research is the way to solve some of the most horrendous diseases that affect mankind.

Smoking is much more an issue to worry about than Monsanto. Noxious by products from people and industry and cars. That to me is another unsolvable problem. We will eventually kill our planet but hopefully by that time, the human race will have been able to find another to move to and effect the move. Greenies can worry and fuss and do small things, but they are not going to get much done. We aren't going to negate or reverse the industrial revolution.

There is always hope and our decent human brains. Some one of us, long after we are gone will figure it out.

Sermon for the day. My views only. As I get older I am overwhelmed by ignorance; mine and the worlds, so many more questions than easy answers.

Gracie, you nailed it.

Agricultural foods sources have evolved for many reasons over literally millions of years. We do not chomp down on what the dinosaurs ingested. They have also been modified by humans for at least thousands of years. The wheat we enjoy today is not that of the Biblical era. Corn and potatoes also come to mind. Our domesticated cattle, pigs and sheep have been bred to what they are today. This will continue.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think how we feel about a lot of things has to do with how we look at things politically.

I like dogs CFrance. And I love yours.

And I love your cats--and you too! We do have our differences, though.

[KayakerNC]

Originally Posted by CFrance

here's one link, but there are many others. The Horrific Truth About Monsanto's Roundup Herbicide

Somehow, I don't find an article written by a medical fraud and huckster to be all that convincing.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by CFrance

And I love your cats--and you too! We do have our differences, though.

But both me and the world can see that you are a thoroughly good person and charming and smart and ethical and I just love you CFrance.

[shcisamax]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Gracie, you nailed it.

Agricultural foods sources have evolved for many reasons over literally millions of years. We do not chomp down on what the dinosaurs ingested. They have also been modified by humans for at least thousands of years. The wheat we enjoy today is not that of the Biblical era. Corn and potatoes also come to mind. Our domesticated cattle, pigs and sheep have been bred to what they are today. This will continue.

I am not speaking of genetic changes over time...I am talking about pumping drugs and chemicals into our bodies that we did not do 100 years ago. One hundred years ago, when you ate a cow or a chicken or an apple, that is all you were eating. Now you are eating all the drugs and protective chemicals that have been applied whether directly or in the ground. As for wheat, there is a theory which I am not knowledgeable enough to discuss, that offers modified wheat as the culprit behind all the gluten intolerant issues.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by KayakerNC

Somehow, I don't find an article written by a medical fraud and huckster to be all that convincing.

Sorry. I didn't mean the huckster. I was referring to France convicting Monsanto of lying about Roundup.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I thought what was stated in a previous thread was that genetics trump nutrition where cancer is concerned. The China Study book is over ten years old.

The topic here is about (primary) cancer prevention. I'm not aware of anything in the field of genetics that promises to prevent cancer.

The Copyright date of The China Study is 2006. So what? Did you like it when you read it back in 2006?

[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=Villages PL;1045486]The topic here is about (primary) cancer prevention. I'm not aware of anything in the field of genetics that promises to prevent cancer.


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[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

The topic here is about (primary) cancer prevention. I'm not aware of anything in the field of genetics that promises to prevent cancer.

The Copyright date of The China Study is 2006. So what? Did you like it when you read it back in 2006?

The China Study was first published in the US in January of 2005. And the title of this thread is the China Study. So it is the topic here.