[billethkid]

I recently heard about a person who has a DNR and they also do not want 911 to be called.

Right or wrong I associate DNR to mean NOT prolonging life via various life support mechanisms.

That is not how I view calling 911.

While I do honor ones wishes... I have a very different view of the need for 911.......saving VS prolonging.

Other opinions/experiences?

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[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I recently heard about a person who has a DNR and they also do not want 911 to be called.

Right or wrong I associate DNR to mean NOT prolonging life via various life support mechanisms.

That is not how I view calling 911.

While I do honor ones wishes... I have a very different view of the need for 911.......saving VS prolonging.

Other opinions/experiences?

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I always assumed the DNR provided direction to emergency care workers (EMTs, emergency rooms, doctors, etc) and possibly neighborhood AED teams.

Today, I would call 911 and let the trained professionals make the appropriate medical decision. Today there is no DNR in place for anyone I know. I don't know what I might do if the DNR applied to someone I care about - I hope I never find myself in that position.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

You will have a different view of life due to differing circumstances. My view is that I don’t impose my view onto someone else, so under that the scenario, I honor the other person’s wishes.

I don’t deny others’ religious beliefs being an atheist. And first principle of communication is seek to understand

Good luck with your struggle

[Velvet]

DNR I thought meant unnecessary life saving measures when there is no hope of quality of life (I’m paraphrasing). We don’t know that until it’s medically evaluated, so call 911 ALWAYS!

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I always assumed the DNR provided direction to emergency care workers (EMTs, emergency rooms, doctors, etc) and possibly neighborhood AED teams.

Today, I would call 911 and let the trained professionals make the appropriate medical decision. Today there is no DNR in place for anyone I know. I don't know what I might do if the DNR applied to someone I care about - I hope I never find myself in that position.

I agree. Also, I would be concerned about possible liability by not calling 911. As I understand it, unless someone is receiving Hospice care, any death in a home needs to be investigated.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I recently heard about a person who has a DNR and they also do not want 911 to be called.

Right or wrong I associate DNR to mean NOT prolonging life via various life support mechanisms.

That is not how I view calling 911.

While I do honor ones wishes... I have a very different view of the need for 911.......saving VS prolonging.

Other opinions/experiences?

__________________________________________

Where does this come from? A DNR is a specific legal & medical terminology/order, that's implemented (or takes effect) when you stop breathing or blood flow stops.

[MsPCGenius]

As noted in other responses, a DNR (do not resuscitate) is a legal/medical instruction for a healthcare provider. It is not meant to be guidance for an in-home, out shopping, pickleball playing, etc. emergency. Always dial 911.

[bsloan1960]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I recently heard about a person who has a DNR and they also do not want 911 to be called.

Right or wrong I associate DNR to mean NOT prolonging life via various life support mechanisms.

That is not how I view calling 911.

While I do honor ones wishes... I have a very different view of the need for 911.......saving VS prolonging.

Other opinions/experiences?

__________________________________________

I listened to a doctor being interviewed on NPR. He has DNR tattooed on his left chest. He said only 8% (9.%1 per American Heart Association) of people who receive out-of-hospital CPR survive. Of those 8 people 4 will require life-long care due to serious disability, 4 will return to their previous lives with some form of disability, and 2 (2%) will return to their lives and function at the same level as they did prior to CPR. A google search will show survival figures as high as 45% which is why I used The American Heart Association.

Unfortunately a DNR tattoo will be disregarded by EMTs because it isn't a bona fide legal document- i.e. signature, witness signature, etc., and EMTs are fearful that honoring this tattoo would subject them to legal trouble.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by bsloan1960

I listened to a doctor being interviewed on NPR. He has DNR tattooed on his left chest. He said only 8% (9.%1 per American Heart Association) of people who receive out-of-hospital CPR survive. Of those 8 people 4 will require life-long care due to serious disability, 4 will return to their previous lives with some form of disability, and 2 (2%) will return to their lives and function at the same level as they did prior to CPR. A google search will show survival figures as high as 45% which is why I used The American Heart Association.

Unfortunately a DNR tattoo will be disregarded by EMTs because it isn't a bona fide legal document- i.e. signature, witness signature, etc., and EMTs are fearful that honoring this tattoo would subject them to legal trouble.

One of those 2% will be joining me on a cruise in May. I'm glad the statistics didn't get in the way of that.

[bsloan1960]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

One of those 2% will be joining me on a cruise in May. I'm glad the statistics didn't get in the way of that.

Cool. I also know someone who recovered after CPR. However, if the statistic is to be believed your chances of returning to life / a quality life are remote. I would opt for DNR- but that just happens to be my choice.

[Michael 61]

Originally Posted by billethkid

I recently heard about a person who has a DNR and they also do not want 911 to be called.

Right or wrong I associate DNR to mean NOT prolonging life via various life support mechanisms.

That is not how I view calling 911.

While I do honor ones wishes... I have a very different view of the need for 911.......saving VS prolonging.

Other opinions/experiences?

__________________________________________

I would always call 911- so if a person simply slipped in the bathroom and knocked themselves unconscious, you should not call 911, if that is in their DNR?

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

I would always call 911- so if a person simply slipped in the bathroom and knocked themselves unconscious, you should not call 911, if that is in their DNR?

You having difficulty with the very clear difference between not performing CPR when a person has no heartbeat and/or no respirations versus not getting help for someone who is breathing, has a heartbeat and is simply unconscious? A DNR has absolutely no application to the situation you wrote about.

The DNR form in Florida comes in both a large size usually kept on the refrigerator and a wallet size obviously kept in a wallet. Interestingly CPR training does not instruct either a paramedic or a bystander to check the wallet for the presence of a DNR form at any point, thus having on your person a DNR form will not prevent people from doing CPR. That is why the doctor mentioned above added a tattoo.

[RICH1]

Hospice = no call 911
or wait till the next month when the Social Security check auto deposits / possibly stretching it until the next Quarter for dividend check to hit!

[Kathryn Putt]

Not all 911 calls are life saving calls. One example: a fall with a broken hip. Hu

[LizbethD]

I believe the law applies in Fla the same as NY. If EMT responds to a scene they are required to initiate lifesaving measures. If they are responding to a persons home and that person is unresponsive (ie, not breathing &no heartbeat) they are again required to initiate lifesaving measures unless that person has an “in home” DNR form. This is a specific form for use in the home. No other DNR form is accepted