[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Yvonnie313

Can I see the rest of that report? Is that from The Villages? I was referring to a national report which is why it made me wonder the situation in The Villages

So here's some info:

Parkinson's afflicts mostly old people. The older you are, the higher the likelihood you are to develop it (notice I didn't say risk - age isn't a risk factor, it's just the window of time when the disease is most likely to present itself).

The Villages is the largest community of old people in the country.

The Villages also has more golf courses than any other single community in the country.

The take-away from this: More old people move to the Villages to play golf than any other demographic. And so, you're likely to see more old people here getting Parkinson's than anywhere else. Not because of golf, but because of age.

Probability/statistics stuff. When mother nature wants to go fishing, she doesn't go to the pond with only 10 fish. She goes to the one with 1000 fish. The Villages has 150,000 fish.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

The study from which the social media has sourced is here in this post, published in JAMA

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...623-post8.html

Just remember if you are looking for credibility, this publication was all in in the COVID vaccine push.

[Howardras3589]

Originally Posted by Yvonnie313

I just posted in General but should have posted here. There are reports all over the news and social media lately stating that living close to a golf course raises your chances of developing Parkinson’s Disease by 126 percent! After digging I found TV has quite a large population of people with Parkinson’s. Thats very frightening to me. Since I haven’t moved to The Villages yet but would like to, what are others saying or doing about this to avoid exposure to dangerous chemicals that is causing this? (If you haven’t heard this yet, it’s simple to google it and find the info). I’m truly afraid but want to find an answers and solutions to ease my worries. Thank you

Stop drinking tap water, stop eating all food you didn't grow, stop using all cleaning products unless you wear a haznat suit, stop washing your clothes. The list of chemicals we are exposed to on a daily basis goes on and on. To blame chemicals around a golf course for Parkinsons disease is ludicrous.

Allowing fear of the unknown and the what ifs to stop you from living your life is sad.

[RoadTowed]

Originally Posted by bowlingal

move here, but don't buy on a golf course.

Bottled water for drinking/cooking might be a good idea?

[Joecooool]

I attend the Golf Course Superintendents Association of America conference every year as a vendor. That profession has one of the highest rate of cancer of any profession due to the herbicides, insecticides, pesticides, and fertilizers they are exposed to every day. It's so prevalent, that a significant amount of the training they go through at these conferences includes dealing with cancer insurance claims.

It's not a stretch to assume that some of these airborne chemicals can also impact the residents who live next to a golf course. The guys spraying this stuff are wearing gloves, respirators, and long sleeves. That stuff then drifts into your yard where you have none of those protections. If I had a home on the course, I would NEVER leave my windows open, and I would only enjoy the outdoors well after the chemicals had been applied and the grass had been mowed.

Europe bans most pesticides and insecticides because of these reasons. There are alternatives that can keep the course in top shape and reduce the known health risks. But they are expensive and would require regulations to force compliance.

Here is one of thousands of articles on the subject - Pesticide Dangers at Golf Courses Much Higher in the U.S. than Europe, Study Finds - Beyond Pesticides Daily News Blog

[RcCalais]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

Sounds like you're getting something extra with a golf course view lot.

??????

[RcCalais]

Originally Posted by Yvonnie313

I just posted in General but should have posted here. There are reports all over the news and social media lately stating that living close to a golf course raises your chances of developing Parkinson’s Disease by 126 percent! After digging I found TV has quite a large population of people with Parkinson’s. Thats very frightening to me. Since I haven’t moved to The Villages yet but would like to, what are others saying or doing about this to avoid exposure to dangerous chemicals that is causing this? (If you haven’t heard this yet, it’s simple to google it and find the info). I’m truly afraid but want to find an answers and solutions to ease my worries. Thank you

There are quite a few that spend almost as much time on the golf course playing as in their home. How dose the Villages Parkinson's compare to the national average?

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

I attend the Golf Course Superintendents Association of America conference every year as a vendor. That profession has one of the highest rate of cancer of any profession due to the herbicides, insecticides, pesticides, and fertilizers they are exposed to every day. It's so prevalent, that a significant amount of the training they go through at these conferences includes dealing with cancer insurance claims.

It's not a stretch to assume that some of these airborne chemicals can also impact the residents who live next to a golf course. The guys spraying this stuff are wearing gloves, respirators, and long sleeves. That stuff then drifts into your yard where you have none of those protections. If I had a home on the course, I would NEVER leave my windows open, and I would only enjoy the outdoors well after the chemicals had been applied and the grass had been mowed.

Europe bans most pesticides and insecticides because of these reasons. There are alternatives that can keep the course in top shape and reduce the known health risks. But they are expensive and would require regulations to force compliance.

Here is one of thousands of articles on the subject - Pesticide Dangers at Golf Courses Much Higher in the U.S. than Europe, Study Finds - Beyond Pesticides Daily News Blog

Please, no facts! You are upsetting those Villagers hugging their security blankets. There is nothing to see here... keep walking.

[Velvet]

You know in statistics, we could make just about anything correlate to anything else. It depends on which particular set of data you chose to use. My father-in-law died of Parkinson’s and he never was near a golf course. My gut instinct tells me that this correlation is highly unlikely.

[Yvonnie313]

Originally Posted by SoCalGal

Researchers and experts implicate pesticide exposure—from heavy chemical use on courses—via contamination of water or airborne drift. The study shows a correlation but can't prove that living near a golf course causes Parkinson’s. Other factors—like genetics, head injuries, or other environmental exposures—were not fully accounted for. Only the three years prior to diagnosis were included in the exposure analysis—though Parkinson’s typically develops over decades. Conducted in a specific region; results may not generalize broadly. Golf course pesticide use and water geology differ elsewhere. The study assumed exposure based on proximity and water system overlap, but did not test tap water or soil directly for pesticide levels. A disproportionate number of cases were urban, raising questions about air pollution or other urban-area triggers. Experts describe the findings as “striking” and “biologically plausible” due to known pesticide neurotoxicity. But they emphasize that more research is needed—ideally with broader geographic coverage, longer time frames, and actual pesticide measurements.

Residential Proximity to Golf Courses Linked to Parkinson’s Disease

Thank you for finding this for me.

[Dilligas]

Originally Posted by Yvonnie313

I just posted in General but should have posted here. There are reports all over the news and social media lately stating that living close to a golf course raises your chances of developing Parkinson’s Disease by 126 percent! After digging I found TV has quite a large population of people with Parkinson’s. Thats very frightening to me. Since I haven’t moved to The Villages yet but would like to, what are others saying or doing about this to avoid exposure to dangerous chemicals that is causing this? (If you haven’t heard this yet, it’s simple to google it and find the info). I’m truly afraid but want to find an answers and solutions to ease my worries. Thank you

In the article you are quoting, "Areas that shared drinking water supplies with water used near golf courses were the most greatly impacted, the study shows. Researchers believe this shows that the pesticides used on golf courses could contribute to the amount of Parkinson's cases".
That is a factor that is unlikely in The Villages. TV water golf courses with reclaimed water and water run off into collection basins, or on the course itself when extreme rainfall amounts. The drinking water in TV comes from one of the largest aquifers in the country. TV also has a state of the art water purification system. Your home has 2 supplies of water...one for drinking and one for irrigation.
The article quoted areas in Minnesota where you do not have the controls that exist in TV.

[BethBowen]

Environment can be up to 85% cause for movement disorders. The Fox Foundation had has volumes on the subject. Fertilizer and insect sprays along with other poisons can be dangerous if you have the propensity from heredity.
The Parkinson’s support groups in The Villages has a newsletter that has links to a great deal of onfo on Parkinson’s. My husband was a leather craftsman. We also lived in log cabin that was sprayed many times with insecticides and herbicides. He died of Parkinson’s.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

I attend the Golf Course Superintendents Association of America conference every year as a vendor. That profession has one of the highest rate of cancer of any profession due to the herbicides, insecticides, pesticides, and fertilizers they are exposed to every day. It's so prevalent, that a significant amount of the training they go through at these conferences includes dealing with cancer insurance claims.

It's not a stretch to assume that some of these airborne chemicals can also impact the residents who live next to a golf course. The guys spraying this stuff are wearing gloves, respirators, and long sleeves. That stuff then drifts into your yard where you have none of those protections. If I had a home on the course, I would NEVER leave my windows open, and I would only enjoy the outdoors well after the chemicals had been applied and the grass had been mowed.

Europe bans most pesticides and insecticides because of these reasons. There are alternatives that can keep the course in top shape and reduce the known health risks. But they are expensive and would require regulations to force compliance.

Here is one of thousands of articles on the subject - Pesticide Dangers at Golf Courses Much Higher in the U.S. than Europe, Study Finds - Beyond Pesticides Daily News Blog

It’s all pretty much the same stuff that Deans, Massey, Florida Pest Control, LeeCo, Fertigator, and all the other lawn care and pest control companies apply at our Villages homes. How many Villager’s dogs have died of cancer? All that stuff leaches into the aquifers. My wife and I only drink and cook with bottled water at our Villages home. Anyone who would eat anything caught out of a body of water in the greater Villages area has a death wish. I can’t believe the people who drop their cigars on the greens when putting and then pick them up and put them into their mouths? It is what it is, do the best you can to not let any of the toxic stuff enter your body.

[justjim]

Keep posting these theories and perhaps I can purchase a golf course lot under $200,000. Well, maybe that’s a bridge too far. We have a special friend in her mid fifties that was recently diagnosed with Parkinson’s and from what she tells us the doctors have no valid idea what causes this awful disorder/disease. For what it’s worth, she has never lived on a golf course and doesn’t play the game. Fore.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

the article in JAMA statistically proved increased risk in a specific area. Risk is extremely difficult to quantify, and has wide std dev bands in humans.

Doesn’t mean any particular person will get PD, just means that the risk is non zero. Can it generalize to other locations? maybe, but lots of chemicals sprayed on crops, lands ends up in places which damage the ecology.

On Long Island, the vineyards spray seepage and lawn fertilizer seepage has killed the quahog shellfish population, proven by the last long time shell fishing group. We spoke for an hour with them last summer on LI Sound !

So yes, the earth is slowly being ecologically damage, and there will be a tipping point famine someday