[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by janmcn

People are having an easy time signing up for affordable health care in states that set up their own websites. Florida is not one of those states. Governor Scott elected to have the federal government set up and run the website for Floridians.

HONOLULU — Hawaii’s health insurance marketplace is hoping to turn around a stalled start by providing plans and pricing to consumers by Oct. 15 — but there are no guarantees, its executive director said Wednesday......

.....The insurance exchange — a key component of President Barack Obama’s federal health care overhaul — hasn’t been able to sell any insurance in Hawaii because of problems with the software at the heart of the marketplace. Consumers can’t see plans, even though a variety of options from two insurers have been approved to be sold by the state’s insurance division.

The problems have meant consumers can only submit basic information using a web form, with the promise they’ll be contacted in a few weeks. As a workaround, some people are going directly to insurance companies to find out about plans, even though buying plans from insurance companies directly means consumers won’t be able to get tax subsidies or other help they might qualify for.

Andrews said the exchange is required by statute to have its insurance providers validate how rates and plans are presented to consumers before they’re rolled out publicly.....

....Andrews’ comments came at the start of an informational hearing to discuss implementation of the federal overhaul, a law Hawaii has embraced. Hawaii was the first state to announce its intention to run its own insurance exchange, and the Hawaii Health Connector was established in August 2011.

The connector is funded through federal grants, with plans to become self-sufficient by 2015 by charging customers a 2 percent fee on plans sold through the exchange, Andrews said.

The exchange awarded a $53 million, four-year contract to CGI Group, Inc., earlier this year to build the marketplace."

Hawaii Relaunching Obamacare Exchange After Not Selling Any Health Insurance Due To Software Problems « CBS DC

[Bruiser1]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

What is interesting is the budget for this site was $94 million. The most expensive web site ever created. Actually turned out to be $634 million. The most expensive by 21 fold. And it doesn't work. Sure hope they do better with the delivery cost projections.

John Mcafee, the founder of Mcafee security systems says this web site is porous with security holes, and yet you have to put so much sensitive information into it. He also says his company could have built the government and each state site for under a $1000 each and they would be secure. Volume would have caused a significantly more expensive server implementation, but the basic site cost should have been minimal. He says we will see millions of fraud and identity theft cases as a result of this terrible web site design.

And now we will entrust 1/6 of our economy to the government that can't even build (or have built for them) a simple web site and make it secure.

Before you put all of your secure information into this system, go online and freeze all three credit reporting agencies. Might save you future problems if he is even half right.

And it will handle 70,000 entry's that should do the trick . What are there like a Million people in the US.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

What is interesting is the budget for this site was $94 million. The most expensive web site ever created. Actually turned out to be $634 million. The most expensive by 21 fold. And it doesn't work. Sure hope they do better with the delivery cost projections.

John Mcafee, the founder of Mcafee security systems says this web site is porous with security holes, and yet you have to put so much sensitive information into it. He also says his company could have built the government and each state site for under a $1000 each and they would be secure. Volume would have caused a significantly more expensive server implementation, but the basic site cost should have been minimal. He says we will see millions of fraud and identity theft cases as a result of this terrible web site design.

And now we will entrust 1/6 of our economy to the government that can't even build (or have built for them) a simple web site and make it secure.

Before you put all of your secure information into this system, go online and freeze all three credit reporting agencies. Might save you future problems if he is even half right.

If what you say is true, then people should be very wary of signing up for Medicare. Medicare has a much larger database than the Affordable Care Act and is a government-run website. The only difference is Medicare is single-payer socialized medicine while the ACA gives people the chance to shop on the open market.

[billethkid]

just wait and see what surprises no body knows about that come into play 1/1/2014 when it goes into effect.

The poor execution of what was supposed to be ready 10/1/2013 is a stalled effort. A couple of years in the making....known issues including aimed at too small a market....was allowed to get a go signal for October 1, 2013......to make a date.....READY OR NOT!!!

Get ready for the other shoes to drop.

btk

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by janmcn

If what you say is true, then people should be very wary of signing up for Medicare. Medicare has a much larger database than the Affordable Care Act and is a government-run website. The only difference is Medicare is single-payer socialized medicine while the ACA gives people the chance to shop on the open market.

What he says is true. And I would vote for HIM to run anything in a New York second. If I DID New York seconds which I don't.

I would vote for him in any old considered Ohio minute.

[l2ridehd]

Originally Posted by janmcn

If what you say is true, then people should be very wary of signing up for Medicare. Medicare has a much larger database than the Affordable Care Act and is a government-run website. The only difference is Medicare is single-payer socialized medicine while the ACA gives people the chance to shop on the open market.

What does signing up for Medicare have to do with the ACA web site??? Medicare started in 1965, long before the internet was available. It migrated services to the web over a 7 year time period. Basically did it one feature at a time. So it had the time to correct issues, remain secure, and be tested before implementation. Also the internet use for Medicare grew very slowly over a 12 year time window.

So very sorry, I don't understand the analogy at all.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

What does signing up for Medicare have to do with the ACA web site??? Medicare started in 1965, long before the internet was available. It migrated services to the web over a 7 year time period. Basically did it one feature at a time. So it had the time to correct issues, remain secure, and be tested before implementation. Also the internet use for Medicare grew very slowly over a 12 year time window.

So very sorry, I don't understand the analogy at all.

You are correct that Medicare has been around for almost 50 years, compared with 11 days for the Affordable Care Act, so perhaps we should give the ACA more time to work the bugs out.

[graciegirl]

It will get to working, kinda. And then our taxes will go up to close to half our income, just like in Austria.

And we will have to wait for quite a spell for a specialist, just like in Holland.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by janmcn

You are correct that Medicare has been around for almost 50 years, compared with 11 days for the Affordable Care Act, so perhaps we should give the ACA more time to work the bugs out.

Wrong. ACA was signed into law in 2010 and the first exchange was set up in 2011.

"Hawaii was the first state to announce its intention to run its own insurance exchange, and the Hawaii Health Connector was established in August 2011."

(source linked in prior post above)

If Congress and administration had any sense, they would have contracted with Citibank, American Express, or some other such giant financial institution that already operates worldwide online networks to do the IT work for ACA online.

And by the way, no bank, investment firm or stock exchange would be allowed by federal/state banking regulators to put such a rickety monstrosity of a web network out there online for consumers. It would be shut down by government regulators, and fast, for CONSUMER PROTECTION.