[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I'm confused about the point you're trying to make. Is it that milk doesn't build strong bones, or that calcium doesn't build strong bones??? I drink almond milk which is advertised as having "50% more calcium than milk".

The purpose of this thread is to prove that there's no proof that dairy products build strong bones. If you search: "Myth 30: Lots of Milk Builds Strong Bones", you can read the reason why it's a myth.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

No. From a pediatrician. Also from the La Leche League.

Was your pediatrician referring to cow's milk or mother's milk? If he/she was referring to cow's milk it was likely mistaken advice.

Back when I had my tonsils removed, most doctors were recommending it for all children. Also, back then all doctors believed that if you lost brain cells, they could not be regenerated. They once believed in getting a yearly chest xray to look for lung cancer. Lots of things have changed over the years.

I'm not familiar with La Leche League. It sounds like something that would be sponsored by the Dairy Industry.

[rayschic]

Why do you assume that La Leche League is sponsored by the Dairy Industry ?

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[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by rayschic

I'm actually a Hershey's Chocolate milk girl, but the Nesquick package says "Helps build strong bones for life" which is what the OP was asking about.
Think I'll go have some, right now. YUM

After you posted, I went to Publix looking for Nesquick but couldn't find it. They had Nesquick products but not the one that says "Helps build strong bones for life".

However, while I was at publix, I did my research. I'm assuming that if the dairy industry were allowed make the claim for "building strong bones", they would be happy to do so. I can't imagine why they would not, with all the many women (and some men) who worry about developing Osteoporosis.

So I went around looking at all the many milk products throughout the store:

Instant Dry Milk (2 brands)
Sorrento Mozzarella
Publix lowfat milk
Sorrento Ricotta
Publix Yogurt

None of them said anything whatsoever about bones. None of the products said, "helps build strong bones". (Zip, zero, nada) They cannot say, "helps build strong bones" if it hasn't been proved. That's because they would be in violation of the law. Anyone doubt it?

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

After you posted, I went to Publix looking for Nesquick but couldn't find it. They had Nesquick products but not the one that says "Helps build strong bones for life".

However, while I was at publix, I did my research. I'm assuming that if the dairy industry were allowed make the claim for "building strong bones", they would be happy to do so. I can't imagine why they would not, with all the many women (and some men) who worry about developing Osteoporosis.

So I went around looking at all the many milk products throughout the store:

Instant Dry Milk (2 brands)
Sorrento Mozzarella
Publix lowfat milk
Sorrento Ricotta
Publix Yogurt

None of them said anything whatsoever about bones. None of the products said, "helps build strong bones". (Zip, zero, nada) They cannot say, "helps build strong bones" if it hasn't been proved. That's because they would be in violation of the law. Anyone doubt it?

I think you need a hobby..........other than doing research at the supermarket.

I do believe it's the calcium in milk and dairy that supposedly is good for your bones........
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The Laleche League encourages and supports young mothers who are breast feeding their infants..........it's all the craze now.

What is old is new again..........and these young moms take it very seriously. Our moms breastfed us.......then there were the "bottle babies" during the Doctor Spock era........and now breast feeding has made a resurgence.

In all due respect, you've obviously never had children or you would know what those chocolate powder additives are......that moms used to put into their children's milk to make it tastier.

Many moms today do not encourage the stuff at all. All the little ones we know are on very natural healthy diets.....and begin their lives with breast milk. The nutrients that the mother eats are passed through to the babies and toddlers.........and yes, for strong bones and teeth. It's a no brainer actually. Calcium is the reason.

Yes, cheese is also a good source of calcium as the folks in the Nordic countries (Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, etc.) will be happy to tell you. Years ago when our Swedish sister in law visited America with her baby......she was a vegan and ate a lot of cheese while she was breastfeeding..........the child grew up strong and healthy and is now 35 years old.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

How did you make up your mind that milk would build strong bones? Back when you were raising kids, before the internet, didn't you primarily get your information from advertising?

I think you must be pulling her leg (teasing her).

New parents get their information from the pediatrician, not from Madison Avenue advertising...........

45 years ago , if not breast feeding, "formula" was used and bottles were sterilized......everything was sterilized as a matter of fact. Then foods were added little by little.......rice cereal, strained baby fruits, veggies, meats, etc.

42 years ago in Vermont, the pediatrician told me NOT to sterilize anything at all.......as that's how their immune system would better develop...........whereas with my first baby, in New Jersey, I had to sterilize EVERYTHING...........just three years difference. He also told me to give our son "table food" or whatever we ate.
Actually, that's just about what they do nowadays........besides the breast milk.

So, in a nutshell, moms get their information from the baby's pediatrician.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Was your pediatrician referring to cow's milk or mother's milk? If he/she was referring to cow's milk it was likely mistaken advice.

Back when I had my tonsils removed, most doctors were recommending it for all children. Also, back then all doctors believed that if you lost brain cells, they could not be regenerated. They once believed in getting a yearly chest xray to look for lung cancer. Lots of things have changed over the years.

I'm not familiar with La Leche League. It sounds like something that would be sponsored by the Dairy Industry.

Now I know for sure you are definitely kidding...........you think that the La Leche League is sponsored by the Dairy Industry??????????

Are you male or female? What planet were you raised on?

La Leche League endorses breast feeding. Mother's milk.

[Villages PL]

For the sixth time on this thread: The topic is dairy products.

Does anyone have any proof that dairy products build strong bones? No you don't because there is no proof.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

For the sixth time on this thread: The topic is dairy products.

Does anyone have any proof that dairy products build strong bones? No you don't because there is no proof.

Boy Howdy.

[Carla B]

So, the jist of all this discussion is that they (the dairy industry) are apparently not saying their products build strong bones, but you are trying to catch them saying it so you can report them.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

I think you must be pulling her leg (teasing her).

New parents get their information from the pediatrician, not from Madison Avenue advertising...........

45 years ago , if not breast feeding, "formula" was used and bottles were sterilized......everything was sterilized as a matter of fact. Then foods were added little by little.......rice cereal, strained baby fruits, veggies, meats, etc.

42 years ago in Vermont, the pediatrician told me NOT to sterilize anything at all.......as that's how their immune system would better develop...........whereas with my first baby, in New Jersey, I had to sterilize EVERYTHING...........just three years difference. He also told me to give our son "table food" or whatever we ate.
Actually, that's just about what they do nowadays........besides the breast milk.

So, in a nutshell, moms get their information from the baby's pediatrician.

I neglected to add that the Vermont pediatrician told me to give our baby son COWS MILK.......not formula like Enfamil. He grew up to have the strongest best looking teeth......and so far, at age 43, good bones and is very very super athletic. So much for cows milk. Plus he has a super high I.Q. to boot. Don't be afraid of milk.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Boy Howdy.

I echo Gracie......"Boy Howdy".

[KayakerNC]

Originally Posted by Carla B

So, the jist of all this discussion is that they (the dairy industry) are apparently not saying their products build strong bones, but you are trying to catch them saying it so you can report them.

Kind of makes the purpose of the thread seem to be some kind of pot-stirring exercise.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by KayakerNC

Kind of makes the purpose of the thread seem to be some kind of pot-stirring exercise.

It's the OP's hobby to get us all engaged and excited about nutrition. In my humble opinion, discussing nutrition is a good thing. But I sure believe the calcium in dairy products builds strong bones!!!!

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by Carla B

So, the jist of all this discussion is that they (the dairy industry) are apparently not saying their products build strong bones, but you are trying to catch them saying it so you can report them.

Well, I know that a lot of people are big believers so I put out a challenge. In so doing, I took a risk because I had not checked out all the dairy products in the supermarket. It was only after I heard about Nesquik that I decided I had better go to the store and check things out. I made the challenge on faith (backed up by my general knowledge on the subject) and I was right.
The dairy industry isn't making any claims on their products about building strong bones. And I believe they certainly would if they could.

I can't very well call the FTC and complain about Nesquik because they would want information that I don't have. I have never seen the actual product. I can't complain based on second hand information.

P.S. I just remembered your post on a thread I started over a year ago. I remember because it made me laugh. I can't remember the whole comment anymore but it started with, "Holy cow!" I believe the thread was about what people would have to do to qualify to become members of The Villages Health Care Clinic. They would have to prove they are not overweight. Ha! Very nice memories.