[patfla06]

My hip pain is bursitis and I’ve had it about 10 years.
Had only 1 out of 3 cortisone shots work by an Orthopedist.
Went to physical therapy and that helped.

The biggest improvement I saw was when I lost and kept off 50 lbs.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Interesting that you have done a wide variety of sports. My wife is a medical professional and she is NOT so optimistic about a hip replacement being just a "walk in the park". She has seen some problems, even bolts working their way loose. But, since there is "bone on bone" there may be no turning back from a hip replacement. I am NOT a medical professional, but, if it were me, I would check out which is more successful on average hip replacements or knee replacement. If I had to bet a dollar, I would put my money on knee replacements being more successful. Probably Mr. Google could clear that up.
........I hate to say this, but the average American is overweight and I have seen a lot of "big-boned" men and women jocks and ex-jocks limping around carrying too much weight for the sport they are trying to play. That is just a general statement and may not apply in some individual cases.

Total hip is a ball and socket. Total knee is a hinge. Hip is an easier procedure with a high success rate. BTW, there are no pin components in a total hip.
Believe me, you would rather have a total hip than a total knee.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jebartle

they are doctors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

NO, they aren't. By self proclamation they use the title, but that's where any similarity ends.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

My wife, who is in the medical field suggests that people avoid a hip replacement whenever possible. She says, "Lots of problems, even pins coming out".

Posts like this should be removed.
Total nonsense and untrue.
You should be ashamed.
Stick to saving the planet!

How successful is total hip replacement surgery? In general, the success rate for hip replacement surgery is high: About 95% of patients experience relief from hip pain and 90% to 95% of implants remain viable 10 years after surgery, while 80% to 85% remain so after 20 years.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by GoPacers

And your point is???

I will admit that I have no medical background but I believe I comprehend what golfing eagles was saying. A chiropractor has a PHD but that is where the doctorate stops. They have no medical training in hospitals or an expertise on a particular body part. For example: if you have problems with your eyes, you go to an eye doctor. Heart problems? a heart specialist. I hope you can clearly see the obvious choices.

Then why the hell would anyone go to a glorified massage specialist for their hips (or knees) before going to a bone doctor?

And, I believe golfing eagles was also stating that he was not a surgeon and he does have good bedside manner. But, Thank you very much for your concern.

A second doctor chimes in and some of you still want to argue.

Here is my take away: A knee is a hinge. A hip is a ball and socket. I am a retired contractor. I can clearly see you would not place a pin in a rotating joint. That's like using a nail instead of hinge to aid in the opening/closing of a door. A nail isn't going to help open and close the door. Will it? If I have problems with my hips or knees, I am going to trust a bone specialist not someone's wife or a massaging chiropractor. Both may give me comfort, but can they seriously resolve the true problem?

Before any of you ask, no I have never met either doctor who posted on this thread. Truthfully, I had no idea that one of them is a retired doctor. It is called reading comprehension.

Both doctors may respond to my post, correcting me where I am wrong. But, you know what? I will be smart enough to read carefully and comprehend. Trust the professionals, folks!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Randall55

I will admit that I have no medical background but I believe I comprehend what golfing eagles was saying. A chiropractor has a PHD but that is where the doctorate stops. They have no medical training in hospitals or an expertise on a particular body part. For example: if you have problems with your eyes, you go to an eye doctor. Heart problems? a heart specialist. I hope you can clearly see the obvious choices.

Then why the hell would anyone go to a glorified massage specialist for their hips (or knees) before going to a bone doctor?

And, I believe golfing eagles was also stating that he was not a surgeon and he does have good bedside manner. But, Thank you very much for your concern.

A second doctor chimes in and some of you still want to argue.

Here is my take away: A knee is a hinge. A hip is a ball and socket. I am a retired contractor. I can clearly see you would not place a pin in a rotating joint. That's like using a nail instead of hinge to aid in the opening/closing of a door. A nail isn't going to help open and close the door. Will it? If I have problems with my hips or knees, I am going to trust a bone specialist not someone's wife or a massaging chiropractor. Both may give me comfort, but can they seriously resolve the true problem?

Before any of you ask, no I have never met either doctor who posted on this thread. Truthfully, I had no idea that one of them is a retired doctor. It is called reading comprehension.

Both doctors may respond to my post, correcting me where I am wrong. But, you know what? I will be smart enough to read carefully and comprehend. Trust the professionals, folks!

Pretty much right on.

But for full disclosure, I often referred patients to chiropractors, mostly when they had chronic back pain unrelieved by traditional therapy. And sometimes it helped, although no idea why.

The caveat is to get a MEDICAL evaluation and diagnosis first. I've had to watch several patients, one a nursing supervisor, die a slow painful death because they went to a chiropractor first. Which is why I worded my posts so harshly---if I could prevent another such death by denigrating chiropractors, so be it.

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Pretty much right on.

But for full disclosure, I often referred patients to chiropractors, mostly when they had chronic back pain unrelieved by traditional therapy. And sometimes it helped, although no idea why.

The caveat is to get a MEDICAL evaluation and diagnosis first. I've had to watch several patients, one a nursing supervisor, die a slow painful death because they went to a chiropractor first. Which is why I worded my posts so harshly---if I could prevent another such death by denigrating chiropractors, so be it.

Nice to meet you, Doc! The thread was like playing that old game, What's my line? Looks like I won. Lol. Great advice. (even though some may still disagree.)

[dnobles]

Dr David Kuhn Rt 301 Wildwood

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by jebartle

they are doctors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Geez now you have confused me. You seemed so sure that they are doctors, but after 25 exclamation points you reconsidered and put a question mark.

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Pretty much right on.

But for full disclosure, I often referred patients to chiropractors, mostly when they had chronic back pain unrelieved by traditional therapy. And sometimes it helped, although no idea why.

The caveat is to get a MEDICAL evaluation and diagnosis first. I've had to watch several patients, one a nursing supervisor, die a slow painful death because they went to a chiropractor first. Which is why I worded my posts so harshly---if I could prevent another such death by denigrating chiropractors, so be it.

Not to start up an old argument, but are you aware of any painful deaths caused by medical malpractice of a medical doctor? If not, I will point you to a few cases. If so, would you denigrate that whole area of medicine to prevent just one such death?

[Randall55]

Originally Posted by Cybersprings

Not to start up an old argument, but are you aware of any painful deaths caused by medical malpractice of a medical doctor? If not, I will point you to a few cases. If so, would you denigrate that whole area of medicine to prevent just one such death?

A good friend told me she was not feeling well and was going to see a chiropractor because she had muscle pain under her arm. I wished her well and ended our phone conversation.

A week later, I met up with her and noticed she was having trouble breathing. Literally, gasping for air. I asked her how long she had this, and she told me not to worry. She had another chiropractor appointment the next day. Then, I asked. Were you feeling this way when you first went to the chiropractor? She said yes. Infuriated, I drove her to the emergency room. She was quickly placed into a wheel chair and given oxygen She quickly learned she had pneumonia and was near death.

It is not so much that a chiropractor does what he!she does. It is the erroneous belief that many people have about them. They ARE NOT TRUE medical doctors. No matter how many times they adjust or crack your body, they are unable to help you if, in fact, like my friend, you are near death. In her case, the chiropractor didn't even notice it. Yet, with my amateur eye, I could see that she was in serious condition..

I have never been to a chiropractor. Do they post on their walls a huge sign of what they are licensed to do and what they cannot/willnot do? I asked my friend if she saw something like that in the office of that chiropractor. She stated an emphatic no. People should be informed of what a chiropractor can and can not do. If any of them are like the chiropractor my friend visited, they should be held accountable. Yet, they are not. In the end, my friend was told it was her choice to go there instead of a hospital. No foul done by the chiropractor. I know your question wasnt directed to me. But, I for one, am not a fan of chiropractors and have no plans of going to one, EVER!

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by Randall55

A good friend told me she was not feeling well and was going to see a chiropractor because she had muscle pain under her arm. I wished her well and ended our phone conversation.

A week later, I met up with her and noticed she was having trouble breathing. Literally, gasping for air. I asked her how long she had this, and she told me not to worry. She had another chiropractor appointment the next day. Then, I asked. Were you feeling this way when you first went to the chiropractor? She said yes. Infuriated, I drove her to the emergency room. She was quickly placed into a wheel chair and given oxygen She quickly learned she had pneumonia and was near death.

It is not so much that a chiropractor does what he!she does. It is the erroneous belief that many people have about them. They ARE NOT TRUE medical doctors. No matter how many times they adjust or crack your body, they are unable to help you if, in fact, like my friend, you are near death. In her case, the chiropractor didn't even notice it. Yet, with my amateur eye, I could see that she was in serious condition..

I have never been to a chiropractor. Do they post on their walls a huge sign of what they are licensed to do and what they cannot/willnot do? I asked my friend if she saw something like that in the office of that chiropractor. She stated an emphatic no. People should be informed of what a chiropractor can and can not do. If any of them are like the chiropractor my friend visited, they should be held accountable. Yet, they are not. I know your question wasnt directed to me. But, I for one, am not a fan of chiropractors and have no plans of going to one, EVER!

I have no issue whatsoever with you responding to my question to someone else. But you missed my point again. My point is not that Chiropractors cannot and do not make mistakes or even that some are absolute quacks (I went to one of those). My point is not that chiropractors are medical doctors. My point is that there are bad apples, or simply tragic mistakes made by good apples in all professions. Denigrating an entire profession because of one or several tragic cases while apparently excusing them in your own profession seems very hypocritical.

A warning of what to look out for or precautions to take would be great when someone is seeking a good chiropractor. Denigrating an entire profession I believe is unprofessional.

My wife has seen 3 separate medical doctors for this issue with her shoulder blade. Their response, its part of getting old. (yes but her other shoulder blade is the same age and does not have the same issue). She started seeing a chiropractor for it (not via referral) and has received great relief.
My best friend went to the doctor for very bad stomach and indigestion issues. Dr prescibed antacid. This went on for months and he kept seeing the Dr. It was obvious that he was losing weight. He finally (about 8 months later) went to a different doctor and was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer and was dead 3 months later. Should we advise people not to seek out medical attention from all those quack md's? Or should we recognize that this is not the norm? If someone goes to see a chiropractor for pneumonia symptoms, I have to wonder about that person. Did they also not know what a chiropractor is or does?

[Cybersprings]

Originally Posted by Randall55

A good friend told me she was not feeling well and was going to see a chiropractor because she had muscle pain under her arm. I wished her well and ended our phone conversation.

A week later, I met up with her and noticed she was having trouble breathing. Literally, gasping for air. I asked her how long she had this, and she told me not to worry. She had another chiropractor appointment the next day. Then, I asked. Were you feeling this way when you first went to the chiropractor? She said yes. Infuriated, I drove her to the emergency room. She was quickly placed into a wheel chair and given oxygen She quickly learned she had pneumonia and was near death.

It is not so much that a chiropractor does what he!she does. It is the erroneous belief that many people have about them. They ARE NOT TRUE medical doctors. No matter how many times they adjust or crack your body, they are unable to help you if, in fact, like my friend, you are near death. In her case, the chiropractor didn't even notice it. Yet, with my amateur eye, I could see that she was in serious condition..

I have never been to a chiropractor. Do they post on their walls a huge sign of what they are licensed to do and what they cannot/willnot do? I asked my friend if she saw something like that in the office of that chiropractor. She stated an emphatic no. People should be informed of what a chiropractor can and can not do. If any of them are like the chiropractor my friend visited, they should be held accountable. Yet, they are not. In the end, my friend was told it was her choice to go there instead of a hospital. No foul done by the chiropractor. I know your question wasnt directed to me. But, I for one, am not a fan of chiropractors and have no plans of going to one, EVER!

Have you ever seen that at a medical doctor's office?

[Babubhat]

Why take a chance when you can see a video of what treatment to expect in advance?. Be informed and see prior post with link to optimize chance of successful treatment

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Interesting that you have done a wide variety of sports. My wife is a medical professional and she is NOT so optimistic about a hip replacement being just a "walk in the park". She has seen some problems, even bolts working their way loose. But, since there is "bone on bone" there may be no turning back from a hip replacement. I am NOT a medical professional, but, if it were me, I would check out which is more successful on average hip replacements or knee replacement. If I had to bet a dollar, I would put my money on knee replacements being more successful. Probably Mr. Google could clear that up.
........I hate to say this, but the average American is overweight and I have seen a lot of "big-boned" men and women jocks and ex-jocks limping around carrying too much weight for the sport they are trying to play. That is just a general statement and may not apply in some individual cases.

Care to share her expertise in the subject?