Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2284403)

It destroyed my son’s last year of high school. He miraculously graduated after having basically flunked everything. Staying home screwed him up mentally. Wearing masks messed him up as well. The anger I have over what they did to kids is still going. I’m in biotech. I’ve been in biotech for 28 years. Not one person in my company save a few far left non science folks think masks do anything at all. Not one. They are scientists creating the drugs of the future. They are quality control and quality assurance people. They are regulatory affairs and contamination control folks. Everyone basically laughs at the idea of paper masks stopping a virus. Yet we messed with people’s mental wellbeing by forcing these mandates. Never again.

Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2284431)

All I know is, there are people who aren't getting vaccinated, and they are going to be carriers. I hope i don't end up sitting next to them at a mah jong table or playing cards. I was sitting next to some fool at pickleball who was bragging about how he had never gotten vaccinated. Seriously? You can bet I won't be sitting next to him on a bench again either.

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2284301)

Well of course you did! How do you know if you have Covid if you do not get tested? Also it is recommended to start treatment as early as possible for it to be most effective. So you did the most logical thing. Now for people who do not believe in Covid or think it was made up by big Pharma in the first place, I understand that they can’t see why you did it.

Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2284457)

The facts and studies show your statement is totally incorrect. You have been misinformed. Please seek the truth.

Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2284456)

Colds and flu are no more, follow the money and it will tell why.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284367)

Actually, there was less flu in past 3 years because people avoided large indoor groups so as NOT to get Covid. And Covid killed off a lot of the people that did NOT believe in ANY shots

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284371)

Nice to see some raw truth-telling going on here in this forum.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284381)

The graph said that 1600 children died, not ZERO. And I think the problem is that they are STILL dying. They are somebodies grandchildren!

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284385)

It is hard to prove a negative, but for all we know shutting down various things and requiring masks MAY HAVE save 200,000 Americans. It certainly saved some.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2284409)

I would suggest that the “they” that did anything to kids were the adults arguing that the kids were being negatively affected. The kids learned from the adults that they should be messed up and so they were.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284430)

You can't get a shot unless it has been approved by the CDC. But, if ONE person has a bad reaction to a shot, the anti-American news media has a field day with it by blaming current government for everything medical.

Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2284431)

All I know is, there are people who aren't getting vaccinated, and they are going to be carriers. I hope i don't end up sitting next to them at a mah jong table or playing cards. I was sitting next to some fool at pickleball who was bragging about how he had never gotten vaccinated. Seriously? You can bet I won't be sitting next to him on a bench again either.

Originally Posted by NavyVet (Post 2284433)

I got a Covid booster 2 weeks ago. The reason is if I get the virus, I would definitely want it to be a mild case versus getting seriously ill or dying. I have always been susceptible to respiratory issues. Every cold, flu, strep throat, etc. I've ever had has always turned into a bout of Bronchitis. I know the vaccine won't prevent me from catching Covid, I just don't want to be miserably sick. I had Covid once in 2021; mainly sore throat, a cough, and lost sense of smell for a week. I think I felt feverish for 1 day. Yes, I ended up with bronchitis again, but a round of antibiotics knocked that out. So, for me it is worth it. I get my flu shot every year and also had the pneumonia and shingles vax. I protect my health as best I can.
Since the pandemic first started, I have not had a cold or flu. I think the key to that is avoiding crowded public places.

Also, here are a couple of facts about Ivermectin:
Is Ivermectin Approved to Treat COVID-19?
The FDA has NOT approved ivermectin to treat or prevent the illness caused by the coronavirus.

In animals, ivermectin can help prevent heartworm disease and certain parasites.
It’s dangerous for humans to take any drug made for animals, including ivermectin. A dose meant for a big animal like a horse or cow (which can weigh 2,000 pounds or more) can be toxic for a person. Also, some of the inactive ingredients in an animal medication might not be safe for people.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2284474)

Interesting theory, but I beg to differ...

My daughter was a Kindergarten teacher during Covid. She saw kids with ZERO socialization skills. She had to spend the first two/three months teaching the kids HOW to go to school. It usually took 2-3 weeks...

That wasn't the parent's fault. They weren't allowed to socialize their children...

Add to that, remote learning didn't help at all...

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2284466)

Interesting you would have both opinions. Colds and the flu aren't "no more." There are still people who get the flu, and people who catch colds.

So I'll repeat the statement you gave to someone else, as quoted above:

The facts and studies show your statement is totally incorrect. You have been misinformed. Please seek the truth.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2284462)

Good thing no one on this thread is stating that "they don't believe in Covid" or that it was "made up by Big Pharma"...

They are simply stating their opinions of the efficacy of the vaccine...

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2284477)

Ivermectin was initially developed for HUMANS. Just like the majority of vetrinary medications...

It's still used in humans daily...

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2284480)

Yes, actually, I have a son-in-law who really thinks like that. He doesn’t try (any more ) to change my opinion and I don’t try to change his.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2284453)

I don't understand how wearing a mask could mess up a high school student mentally since that was likely the RULE for the WHOLE school. Early in the Pandemic I would wear a mask to go food shopping and other shopping. Most over 60 people were wearing masks so I did NOT feel out of place in any way. Most people younger than 40 did NOT wear masks and that was OK also because Covid was only minimally affecting that younger group. High school is full of lots of peer pressure and wildly fluctuating endorphins. Those factors would seem to overpower a trivial thing like wearing a mask especially when they were required for a period in schools. The main objective of a school is to provide a safe place to learn. AT that time masks were needed for safety.

Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2284457)

The facts and studies show your statement is totally incorrect. You have been misinformed. Please seek the truth.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2284478)

How do kindergartners learn to go to school normally before they go to school? And 2-3 whole weeks? Yeah, that sounds like what I was responding to.

Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2284457)

The facts and studies show your statement is totally incorrect. You have been misinformed. Please seek the truth.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2284488)

Imagine all those adults whose parents home schooled them, back in the 1960's and 1970's. They didn't get to attend any actual school at all. But somehow - they managed to become socialized by the time they were ready for adulthood.

Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2284007)

This new Covid19 varriant is now upon us. If your suddenly come down with that cough, congestion and chills you probably have it. Get tested asap so you can help others avoid it. Walgreens has the inside test for $19.00. You get results in less then one hour.
My wife and I got Covid on the plane trip back from Europe. Hit us hard once we got back home. We are fortunate we didn't get it when we were on our trip over there. Much easier to deal with it back in our own home! Take care.

Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 2284495)

Yawn...here we go again with Fear Factor 2! No reasonably healthy person has anything to fear from COVID. There is no cure so why get tested? If you feel sick, then stay home & have some chicken soup until you feel better. I would never get the it-might-work-sometimes vaccine, never worn a mask unless a store forced me to, and have been just fine. Thank goodness we still have DeSantis in office! At least he is one Governor with some common sense in how we approach COVID (as in NO mandates)!

Originally Posted by Eagles8 (Post 2284510)

It’s a Cold , 4 years ago did everyone run around telling people they had a cold? The masks don’t do diddly but if it makes u “feel”better have at it.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2284084)

This Covid thing is awesome. I haven't heard of a case of the Flu, in over 3 years.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284046)

You mean you are really wearing a mask? Fair enough, judgement of stupid withheld 😂😂😂

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2284476)

Vaccinated people are carriers, as well...

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2284396)

Maybe. The usual paper masks probably did next to nothing.

There was an episode of the Netflix series "The Crown" in which smog was actually killing people in about 1953. The British government essentially declared a "mask mandate" for its citizens. In one scene, a member of the cabinet came into a meeting wearing a mask, and the prime minister told him "Take that ridiculous thing off, it does nothing---we only told the people to wear one so it looked like we were doing something about the smog"

Shutting things down probably had an indirect beneficial effect. The most effective mitigation of the pandemic prior to vaccines was social distancing of 6 feet or more---a closed venue accomplishes that, although with some overkill and deleterious economic impacts.

Hard to pin down a number of "lives saved" by these measures----after all, we have no idea of how many people died of Covid as opposed to with Covid.

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2284537)

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If your job depends on you being believed, then my guess is probably quite a few.

Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2284536)

There is something you can do about it, go to the FLCCC Frontline Doctors site, they had a 99.9% survival rate treating COV!D, and have protocols treating the spike protein and detoxing from COV!D and the jab. Are you sure it was COV!D and not the jab that caused your Diabetes?