[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

So I called the company and was told that they don't advertise it for the purpose that was given on the internet. So the ad on the internet was totally bogus.

It is definitely true that there is a lot of misinformation, scams and bogus ads on the Internet. It is also true that the Internet can be a wonderful source of up-to-date information. And I think that is especially true if you have trusted medical sites which have the most current information.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

Let me know if this list helps...........I've also always read that apple cider vinegar was alkaline........when one would automtically think it was acidic, being vinegar.

This chart shows that it is almost midway between highly acidic and alkaline......

He claims you should aim for a 70/30 ratio between alkaline and acid foods....and no need to be extreme and remove all acidic foods from ones diet........

Click on HYPERLINK and then click on :
CLICK HERE FOR PRINTABLE VERSION OF THIS FREE LIST OF ALKALINE FOODS.
I did try to send the PDF file which I printed out at home here.......but I could not copy and paste it. It's an interesting list of foods from highly acidic to alkaline.

Apple Cider Vinegar is shown on page 4 of 7 pages......in the YELLOW COLUMN.

THE RED COLUMN IS THE HIGHLY ACIDIC, THE ORANGE COLUMN STILL ACIDIC......THEN IT GETS LESS ACIDIC AS YOU GO TOWARDS THE VARIOUS SHADES OF GREEN COLUMNS.

http://www.acidalkalinediet.com/Alka...oods-Chart.htm

It's set up in an attractive format with pictures and colors but often it seems that more information is needed. I guess that's to get people interested. And if they're interested they will buy something? What are they selling?

Well, here's what I wonder. I never heard that microwaved foods are highly acidic. That's a big surprise to me. What happens if you fill up a big casserole dish with highly alkaline veggies and then microwave them? They come out highly acidic? I think I did read that cooking makes foods more acidic but they didn't say cooking in general; they said microwaving.

[senior citizen]

[QUOTE=Villages PL;549650]It's set up in an attractive format with pictures and colors but often it seems that more information is needed. I guess that's to get people interested. And if they're interested they will buy something? What are they selling?

Well, here's what I wonder. I never heard that microwaved foods are highly acidic. That's a big surprise to me. What happens if you fill up a big casserole dish with highly alkaline veggies and then microwave them? They come out highly acidic? I think I did read that cooking makes foods more acidic but they didn't say cooking in general; they said microwaving.


There are indeed mixed messages re alkaline and acidic / apple cider vinegar, etc. on the web.......besides the statements below, another good site is the MAYO CLINIC website and WEBMD......

I found this interesting..........

Become Alkaline w/Apple Cider Vinegar

pH BALANCE:

It's suggested that Apple Cider Vinegar has such curative abilities because it causes one's pH levels to become more alkaline or, in the case of too much alkalinity, more acidic. Urinalysis studies done in the 1950s by D.C. Jarvis (author of Folk Medicine) showed that pH levels in the body become highly alkaline before and during an allergy attack (yes, contrary to what you would normally read on the subject). If you are going to try apple cider vinegar for allergies, or even to prevent sickness, we suggest you do some investigation of your own by buying a pH test kit at a local pharmacy, garden nursery, or even pool supply store. You can use these kits or pH strips to test your urine to see if you are more alkaline or acid during an allergy attack, virus or bacterial infection. Once you ascertain your pH levels, you can adjust adjust your dosage of Apple Cider Vinegar accordingly.


Apple Cider Vinegar is one of the oldest, most powerful, healing home remedies imaginable.


As a wonderful side effect of drinking apple cider vinegar every day, we discovered that it brings a healthy, rosy glow to one's complexion! This is great news if you suffer from a pale countenance.

pH BALANCE:


If you live in a highly polluted area (Los Angeles) where allergies and sinus infections are rampant, your system may better balance itself with a small dose of apple cider vinegar each day.

"Apple Cider Vinegar in itself is alkaline because of its "ash" content, which means if the apple cider vinegar was burned, what is left over becomes ash. When you check for the pH of that ash and dissolve it with water, the content is alkaline. Whenever our body digests anything it undergoes oxidation, which is similar to burning and the end result is that you can determine whether the end product was alkaline or acid. Apple Cider Vinegar has anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral properties, primarily coming from the malic acid and acetic acid portion of the vinegar. Apple cider vinegar acts as a buffer in the body because the acetic acid reacts with base or acid compounds to form an acetate, therefore rendering them chemically bioavailable for the body's utilization. Additionally Apple Cider Vinegar can reduce the toxicity of certain compounds by converting the toxin into an acetate compound which is less toxic. This is why they are ideal for insect bites and certain skin allergies.

While Apple Cider vinegar in itself is considered alkaline, a chemically pure vinegar (acetic acid) is neither acid nor basic forming as it leaves no ash as the entire portion, when burned evaporates completely."

From what we have read repeatedly on the internet (so we can't verify this, sorry), scientists have measured ninety different substances in apple cider vinegar such as thirteen types of carbolic acids, four aldehydes, twenty ketones, eighteen types of alcohols, eight ethyl acetates etc. It also contains important minerals, trace elements and vitamins as well acetic acid, propionic acid, lactic acid, enzymes, amino acids as well as roughage in the form of potash and apple pectin.

Apple Cider Vinegar contains minerals and trace elements such as potassium, calcium, magnesium, phosphorous, chlorine, sodium, sulfur, copper, iron, silicon, fluorine. An alternative to drinking apple cider vinegar may be to take potassium supplements, as potassium is known to absorb excess fluids (ie, mucous) in the body. Drink lots of water if you take potassium supplements so you don't get dehydrated! Potassium, by the way, lowers high blood pressure.

Apple Cider Vinegar's vitamin content includes Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B2, Vitamin B6, Provitamin beta-carotene, Vitamin P (bioflavonoids).


Brands of Apple Cider Vinegar
The ACV brand called "Bragg" seems to be popular with people in the United States. Most brands of apple cider vinegar will work the same wonders, so don't worry if you can't find it .

Recipes: After years of drinking apple cider vinegar, we finally figured out the optimal way to drink the vinegar. We are very excited about our discovery!

Our recommendation is different than what you will read in books and elsewhere on the internet. However, we are convinced it is the way to go. If you decide to drink it this way (see below), please report back to us in a few weeks.

Earth Clinic's suggestion:
2 TBLSP of organic ACV in a 1 or 2 Liter filtered water bottle (ie Smart Water, Evian, etc). 2 TBLSP = 1/8th cup.
You can add more vinegar than this amount, however, make sure you dilute it in plenty of water. Do not add a sweetener. Drink this solution constantly, even refilling your water bottle once or twice a day with more vinegar. The solution will be cleansing your system and kidneys all day long. That is the point we want to drive home.

Now this amount of water is much higher than what is typically recommended for apple cider vinegar (2 TBSP to 8 oz of water), but there are a few things you will notice within a day or two: your allergies will disappear, your face will have a healthy glow, you will have consistent energy, and you will lose weight very quickly and keep it off. You will look so good that guaranteed, your friends will comment!!

This sounds like an advertisement, right? Too bad we don't sell the stuff! Nope, we just love it and want everyone else to know about it. We believr that apple cider vinegar is probably the best (and cheapest) detoxifier for the body. As such, it is should be considered a critical component to the fountain of youth.

Please remember to constantly flush your system with a light solution. Drink your water bottle down and fill it up again! 2x a day is good.


Warnings:


Apple Cider Vinegar & Dental Enamel

We are grateful that Dr. Yong, a dentist from London, wrote to us recently elucidating the subject. HOWEVER, we (along with hundreds of our readers) have been drinking apple cider vinegar for years now without any damage to our teeth... so... ??? If you follow our recipe as noted above, you probably don't have to worry about this.

Dr. Yong writes, "Warning - Taking cider vinegar by sipping it during the day may very well help cure some of these allergies, however, it will ruin the enamel on the teeth to such an extent that it may be lost entirely. As dentist I have seen the effects of regular acid intake whether it be carbonated water or a natural acid like lemon juice - yes very cleansing to the system, but a disaster in the mouth. It leads to very costly mouth rehabilitation which can cost thousands of pounds. The first thing patients will usually notice is yellowing of the teeth and sensitivity as the enamel is lost. I am very much into holistic medicine and am training as a homeopath so understand when people wish to look for alternatives to self cure, however be aware that regular intake of vinegars and other acids will have deleterious oral effects!"

Earth Clinic's suggestions:
1. Never drink ACV straight.. always drink it well diluted with water.

2. Immediately rinse your mouth well with water after drinking ACV.

3. Do not drink it in combination with anything sweet like honey, juice or Gatorade. We have the feeling the combination is lethal on the teeth.

4. Possibility: Drink ACV with a straw at the back of the throat slowly. The trick is to not let the liquid touch your teeth.

5. Take ACV tablets instead. (Not our favorite recommendation, but pills seem to work well for some people.)

Marie, from Cascadia Canada writes, "I drank ACV and also diluted lemon juice every morning for the cleansing and neutralizing effects on the body. However my teeth did suffer from acid erosion, until I found the natural alkaline remedy recommended to me by a dental hygenist in New Zealand - baking soda. A pinch of plain sodium bicarbonate placed in the mouth after ingesting acid foods and beverages wil neutralize the acid and save your teeth. It's important to use the baking soda before or during brushing otherwise
you are rubbing the acid in and making it worse. I always take baking soda with me wherever I go to use whenever I've had something acidic."

Warning #2. Bitter Taste. Also, some apple cider vinegar brands are extremely acidic, causing heartburn. It can also quickly cause a yeast infection in women. (Note: certain brands of Organic Apple Cider Vinegar can stop a yeast infection, yet some brands are so acidic that they can actually cause a yeast infection. Thus start with a lower dose to see how your body responds to the vinegar.)


Apple Cider Vinegar and Alkaline Acid Balance

Some alternative practitioners recommend using apple cider vinegar to restore alkaline acid balance. The theory behind the alkaline diet is that our blood is slightly alkaline (with a normal pH level of between 7.35 and 7.45) and that our diet should reflect this pH level.

Proponents of the alkaline-acid theory believe that a diet high in acid-producing foods leads to lack of energy, excessive mucous production, infections, anxiety, irritability, headache, sore throat, nasal and sinus congestion, allergic reactions, and increased risk of conditions such as arthritis and gout.

Despite being an acidic solution, some proponents of apple cider vinegar believe it has an alkalinizing effect on the body. As such, they recommend one to two teaspoons of apple cider vinegar in water as a daily health tonic. Although this is a popular remedy, its effectiveness hasn't been researched.
Side Effects and Safety Concerns

Undiluted apple cider vinegar, in liquid or pill form, may damage the esophagus and other parts of the digestive tract. Apple cider vinegar drinks may damage tooth enamel if sipped.

One case report linked excessive apple cider vinegar consumption with low blood potassium levels (hypokalemia) and low bone mineral density. People with osteoporosis, low potassium levels, and those taking potassium-lowering medications should use caution.

People with allergies to apples should avoid apple cider vinegar.
Vinegar applied to the skin may cause burns and scarring.
Excessive doses of apple cider vinegar have been found to cause damage to the stomach, duodenum, and liver in animals.
Possible Drug Interactions

Theoretically, prolonged use of apple cider vinegar could lead to lower potassium levels, which could increase the risk of toxicity of cardiac glycoside drugs such as Lanoxin (digoxin), insulin, laxatives, and diuretics such as Lasix (furosemide).

Because apple cider vinegar may affect blood glucose and insulin levels, it could theoretically have an additive effect if combined with diabetes medications. Apple cider vinegar may also lower blood pressure, so it may have an additive effect if combined with high blood pressure medications.

[Villages PL]

[quote=senior citizen;549934]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

It's set up in an attractive format with pictures and colors but often it seems that more information is needed. I guess that's to get people interested. And if they're interested they will buy something? What are they selling?

Well, here's what I wonder. I never heard that microwaved foods are highly acidic. That's a big surprise to me. What happens if you fill up a big casserole dish with highly alkaline veggies and then microwave them? They come out highly acidic? I think I did read that cooking makes foods more acidic but they didn't say cooking in general; they said microwaving.


There are indeed mixed messages re alkaline and acidic / apple cider vinegar, etc. on the web.......besides the statements below, another good site is the MAYO CLINIC website and WEBMD......

I found this interesting..........

Become Alkaline w/Apple Cider Vinegar

pH BALANCE:

It's suggested that Apple Cider Vinegar has such curative abilities because it causes one's pH levels to become more alkaline or, in the case of too much alkalinity, more acidic. Urinalysis studies done in the 1950s by D.C. Jarvis (author of Folk Medicine) showed that pH levels in the body become highly alkaline before and during an allergy attack (yes, contrary to what you would normally read on the subject). If you are going to try apple cider vinegar for allergies, or even to prevent sickness, we suggest you do some investigation of your own by buying a pH test kit at a local pharmacy, garden nursery, or even pool supply store. You can use these kits or pH strips to test your urine to see if you are more alkaline or acid during an allergy attack, virus or bacterial infection. Once you ascertain your pH levels, you can adjust adjust your dosage of Apple Cider Vinegar accordingly.


Apple Cider Vinegar is one of the oldest, most powerful, healing home remedies imaginable.


As a wonderful side effect of drinking apple cider vinegar every day, we discovered that it brings a healthy, rosy glow to one's complexion! This is great news if you suffer from a pale countenance.

pH BALANCE:


If you live in a highly polluted area (Los Angeles) where allergies and sinus infections are rampant, your system may better balance itself with a small dose of apple cider vinegar each day.

"Apple Cider Vinegar in itself is alkaline because of its "ash" content, which means if the apple cider vinegar was burned, what is left over becomes ash. When you check for the pH of that ash and dissolve it with water, the content is alkaline. Whenever our body digests anything it undergoes oxidation, which is similar to burning and the end result is that you can determine whether the end product was alkaline or acid. Apple Cider Vinegar has anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral properties, primarily coming from the malic acid and acetic acid portion of the vinegar. Apple cider vinegar acts as a buffer in the body because the acetic acid reacts with base or acid compounds to form an acetate, therefore rendering them chemically bioavailable for the body's utilization. Additionally Apple Cider Vinegar can reduce the toxicity of certain compounds by converting the toxin into an acetate compound which is less toxic. This is why they are ideal for insect bites and certain skin allergies.

While Apple Cider vinegar in itself is considered alkaline, a chemically pure vinegar (acetic acid) is neither acid nor basic forming as it leaves no ash as the entire portion, when burned evaporates completely."

From what we have read repeatedly on the internet (so we can't verify this, sorry), scientists have measured ninety different substances in apple cider vinegar such as thirteen types of carbolic acids, four aldehydes, twenty ketones, eighteen types of alcohols, eight ethyl acetates etc. It also contains important minerals, trace elements and vitamins as well acetic acid, propionic acid, lactic acid, enzymes, amino acids as well as roughage in the form of potash and apple pectin.

Apple Cider Vinegar contains minerals and trace elements such as potassium, calcium, magnesium, phosphorous, chlorine, sodium, sulfur, copper, iron, silicon, fluorine. An alternative to drinking apple cider vinegar may be to take potassium supplements, as potassium is known to absorb excess fluids (ie, mucous) in the body. Drink lots of water if you take potassium supplements so you don't get dehydrated! Potassium, by the way, lowers high blood pressure.

Apple Cider Vinegar's vitamin content includes Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B2, Vitamin B6, Provitamin beta-carotene, Vitamin P (bioflavonoids).


Brands of Apple Cider Vinegar
The ACV brand called "Bragg" seems to be popular with people in the United States. Most brands of apple cider vinegar will work the same wonders, so don't worry if you can't find it .

Recipes: After years of drinking apple cider vinegar, we finally figured out the optimal way to drink the vinegar. We are very excited about our discovery!

Our recommendation is different than what you will read in books and elsewhere on the internet. However, we are convinced it is the way to go. If you decide to drink it this way (see below), please report back to us in a few weeks.

Earth Clinic's suggestion:
2 TBLSP of organic ACV in a 1 or 2 Liter filtered water bottle (ie Smart Water, Evian, etc). 2 TBLSP = 1/8th cup.
You can add more vinegar than this amount, however, make sure you dilute it in plenty of water. Do not add a sweetener. Drink this solution constantly, even refilling your water bottle once or twice a day with more vinegar. The solution will be cleansing your system and kidneys all day long. That is the point we want to drive home.

Now this amount of water is much higher than what is typically recommended for apple cider vinegar (2 TBSP to 8 oz of water), but there are a few things you will notice within a day or two: your allergies will disappear, your face will have a healthy glow, you will have consistent energy, and you will lose weight very quickly and keep it off. You will look so good that guaranteed, your friends will comment!!

This sounds like an advertisement, right? Too bad we don't sell the stuff! Nope, we just love it and want everyone else to know about it. We believr that apple cider vinegar is probably the best (and cheapest) detoxifier for the body. As such, it is should be considered a critical component to the fountain of youth.

Please remember to constantly flush your system with a light solution. Drink your water bottle down and fill it up again! 2x a day is good.


Warnings:


Apple Cider Vinegar & Dental Enamel

We are grateful that Dr. Yong, a dentist from London, wrote to us recently elucidating the subject. HOWEVER, we (along with hundreds of our readers) have been drinking apple cider vinegar for years now without any damage to our teeth... so... ??? If you follow our recipe as noted above, you probably don't have to worry about this.

Dr. Yong writes, "Warning - Taking cider vinegar by sipping it during the day may very well help cure some of these allergies, however, it will ruin the enamel on the teeth to such an extent that it may be lost entirely. As dentist I have seen the effects of regular acid intake whether it be carbonated water or a natural acid like lemon juice - yes very cleansing to the system, but a disaster in the mouth. It leads to very costly mouth rehabilitation which can cost thousands of pounds. The first thing patients will usually notice is yellowing of the teeth and sensitivity as the enamel is lost. I am very much into holistic medicine and am training as a homeopath so understand when people wish to look for alternatives to self cure, however be aware that regular intake of vinegars and other acids will have deleterious oral effects!"

Earth Clinic's suggestions:
1. Never drink ACV straight.. always drink it well diluted with water.

2. Immediately rinse your mouth well with water after drinking ACV.

3. Do not drink it in combination with anything sweet like honey, juice or Gatorade. We have the feeling the combination is lethal on the teeth.

4. Possibility: Drink ACV with a straw at the back of the throat slowly. The trick is to not let the liquid touch your teeth.

5. Take ACV tablets instead. (Not our favorite recommendation, but pills seem to work well for some people.)

Marie, from Cascadia Canada writes, "I drank ACV and also diluted lemon juice every morning for the cleansing and neutralizing effects on the body. However my teeth did suffer from acid erosion, until I found the natural alkaline remedy recommended to me by a dental hygenist in New Zealand - baking soda. A pinch of plain sodium bicarbonate placed in the mouth after ingesting acid foods and beverages wil neutralize the acid and save your teeth. It's important to use the baking soda before or during brushing otherwise
you are rubbing the acid in and making it worse. I always take baking soda with me wherever I go to use whenever I've had something acidic."

Warning #2. Bitter Taste. Also, some apple cider vinegar brands are extremely acidic, causing heartburn. It can also quickly cause a yeast infection in women. (Note: certain brands of Organic Apple Cider Vinegar can stop a yeast infection, yet some brands are so acidic that they can actually cause a yeast infection. Thus start with a lower dose to see how your body responds to the vinegar.)


Apple Cider Vinegar and Alkaline Acid Balance

Some alternative practitioners recommend using apple cider vinegar to restore alkaline acid balance. The theory behind the alkaline diet is that our blood is slightly alkaline (with a normal pH level of between 7.35 and 7.45) and that our diet should reflect this pH level.

Proponents of the alkaline-acid theory believe that a diet high in acid-producing foods leads to lack of energy, excessive mucous production, infections, anxiety, irritability, headache, sore throat, nasal and sinus congestion, allergic reactions, and increased risk of conditions such as arthritis and gout.

Despite being an acidic solution, some proponents of apple cider vinegar believe it has an alkalinizing effect on the body. As such, they recommend one to two teaspoons of apple cider vinegar in water as a daily health tonic. Although this is a popular remedy, its effectiveness hasn't been researched.
Side Effects and Safety Concerns

Undiluted apple cider vinegar, in liquid or pill form, may damage the esophagus and other parts of the digestive tract. Apple cider vinegar drinks may damage tooth enamel if sipped.

One case report linked excessive apple cider vinegar consumption with low blood potassium levels (hypokalemia) and low bone mineral density. People with osteoporosis, low potassium levels, and those taking potassium-lowering medications should use caution.

People with allergies to apples should avoid apple cider vinegar.
Vinegar applied to the skin may cause burns and scarring.
Excessive doses of apple cider vinegar have been found to cause damage to the stomach, duodenum, and liver in animals.
Possible Drug Interactions

Theoretically, prolonged use of apple cider vinegar could lead to lower potassium levels, which could increase the risk of toxicity of cardiac glycoside drugs such as Lanoxin (digoxin), insulin, laxatives, and diuretics such as Lasix (furosemide).

Because apple cider vinegar may affect blood glucose and insulin levels, it could theoretically have an additive effect if combined with diabetes medications. Apple cider vinegar may also lower blood pressure, so it may have an additive effect if combined with high blood pressure medications.

Thanks, you gave good reliable sources of information. But because of all the cautions given, I personally will feel safer to stick with the salad dressings I've been using: 1 teaspoon extra virgin olive oil and 2 teaspoons of fresh lemon juice. It's very alkalizing.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by villages07

One last hijack... Bare, you can also purchase ACV in tablet form. I'm trying it, along with papya enzyme extract as a treatment for acid reflux instead of taking Prilosec every day. ACV supposed to have some weight loss properties, but, haven't noticed any benefits.

Hey 7 ..... Are the ACV tablets working for acid reflux?

[galeforce]

Heard about the Raspberry Ketone, but not the Saffron. Can you explain?

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by senior citizen

"Apple cider vinegar may also lower blood pressure....."

This is something I need to remember because my blood pressure is already as low as I want it to go, without taking any medication.

Also, I was wondering: Do people consider Apple Cider Vinegar to be a food because the acid comes from apples? Or a medicinal item? It seems like many are interested in it as a means to self medicate.

My philosophy of nutrition and health would lead me to question the appropriateness of the overall diet first, as a means to solve health issues.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by LABSX2

Has anyone tried the Raspberry Ketone or Green Coffee Bean Extract to help with weight loss? If so, what were your results?

Just wondering ...... how is the diet progressing for those who are taking Raspberry Ketones pills?

[kwachowski]

I have been on the rasberry ketone for 30 days and have not lost 1 lb. I don't think it works, because I have been really sticking to a diet and walking every other day.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by kwachowski

I have been on the rasberry ketone for 30 days and have not lost 1 lb. I don't think it works, because I have been really sticking to a diet and walking every other day.

Oh, you must be disappointed. But I'm not surprised. It seems that with every passing year, it gets more difficult to lose weight. Dr. Oz keeps recommending these "miracle solutions". We all know better of course, we all know that eating less and exercising more is the only solution. And it takes time and it comes off slowly. But I guess a little experimenting with Dr. Oz "picks" doesn't hurt, just probably makes him richer.