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She wasted absolutely no time in giving her diet a dramatic overhaul.

The 50-year-old almost immediately starting cutting animal products out of her life; claiming on Twitter to have lost 10 pounds in the process.

“this crazy summer has taken me into uncharted territory,” she wrote today on her blog. “into mornings that begin at 7. long walks and vegetables.”

Ecorazzi reached out to Rosie over Twitter earlier to ask if she had caught the awesome documentary “Forks Over Knives.” She tweeted back that, yes, she had seen it and also chatted with the esteemed Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn.

As those who have seen the doc know, Dr. Esselstyn is world-renowned for his work in showing that a vegan diet can have profound effects on reversing the effects of cardiovascular disease. His recommended lifestyle reboot, as detailed in the book “Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease,” has been extremely popular – and is one of the sources former president Bill Clinton relied upon for his own health transformation.

“For them to realize that this is not just the luck of the draw, that this is something that you yourself can control,” said Esselstyn

“You can become the locus of control for this disease that is the leading killer of women and men in Western civilization. It’s truly nothing more than a toothless paper tiger that need never ever exist, and if it does exist, it need never progress. This is a food-borne illness.”

Once again, we give credit to Rosie for listening to her body and making a concerted effort to reach out and educate herself. As someone that commands a cultural spotlight, here’s to hoping she continues to inform on the benefits she’s experiencing as well.


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She wasted absolutely no time in giving her diet a dramatic overhaul.

The 50-year-old almost immediately starting cutting animal products out of her life; claiming on Twitter to have lost 10 pounds in the process.

“this crazy summer has taken me into uncharted territory,” she wrote today on her blog. “into mornings that begin at 7. long walks and vegetables.”

Ecorazzi reached out to Rosie over Twitter earlier to ask if she had caught the awesome documentary “Forks Over Knives.” She tweeted back that, yes, she had seen it and also chatted with the esteemed Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn.

As those who have seen the doc know, Dr. Esselstyn is world-renowned for his work in showing that a vegan diet can have profound effects on reversing the effects of cardiovascular disease. His recommended lifestyle reboot, as detailed in the book “Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease,” has been extremely popular – and is one of the sources former president Bill Clinton relied upon for his own health transformation.

“For them to realize that this is not just the luck of the draw, that this is something that you yourself can control,” said Esselstyn

“You can become the locus of control for this disease that is the leading killer of women and men in Western civilization. It’s truly nothing more than a toothless paper tiger that need never ever exist, and if it does exist, it need never progress. This is a food-borne illness.”

Once again, we give credit to Rosie for listening to her body and making a concerted effort to reach out and educate herself. As someone that commands a cultural spotlight, here’s to hoping she continues to inform on the benefits she’s experiencing as well.


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Um...Those vegan folks you mention...Rosie O Donnell and Bill Clinton and Venus the tennis star and movie star Michelle whatshername....um..well...Let's just say, some of them I admire their ideas on things more than others and some of them..not at all..
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It seems to take a serious health scare or need for surgery before some overweight celebs start taking their health seriously. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rosie take the Lap Band Route, she has certainly tried diets before. If she does get a lap band, I bet it won't be publicized. (Remember when Star Jones got a lap band and said she lost the weight doing yoga).
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A lap band isn't going to clear her arteries of plaque, she will see perhaps 2 -3 lbs a week or more in weight loss, that may be enough to rethink such a thought.

I met a guy that was well over 350 pounds last winter, he started a plant based diet lost 38 lbs in the first month, that rate slowed down thereafter.

On most diets you eat less to lose weight leaving you hungry, with a plant based diet you can literary all you want until you feel satisfied.
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Agree with what you have said about plaque etc in the arteries but I think most are lazy, or want to take the easy way out or find it hard to teach an old dog new tricks hahahaha. I agree with Barefoot, I bet she takes the surgery. I am not sure that she (Barefoot) was advocating that choice just making an educated guess. I know that your passion also is to inform so you also had to give your opinion on this choice.
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lap bands will only work if you change your lifestyle..it is possible to lose 100 pounds with a lap band in less than a year and then if you do not change your lifestyle i have watched people gain 100 plus back
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billions being spent for the same effect one can get for free and it only involves about 6 inches of the body to accomplish it.....that being using the space between the ears!!!!!!

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Agree with what you have said about plaque etc in the arteries but I think most are lazy, or want to take the easy way out or find it hard to teach an old dog new tricks hahahaha. I agree with Barefoot, I bet she takes the surgery. I am not sure that she (Barefoot) was advocating that choice just making an educated guess. I know that your passion also is to inform so you also had to give your opinion on this choice.
Oh yikes, I wasn't advocating lap band surgery. Oh no, I definitely don't believe that is a good solution for weight control. A lap band isn't the key to developing good eating habits. However, having said that, there are many people who've tried endlessly to lose weight. And I think Rosie is one of them. In cases like that, perhaps losing weight by lap band is better than remaining heavy. I wish Rosie well in her efforts to regain her good health.

As we all know very well, it is much healthier to exercise, eat veggies and fruit, practice lots of will power, and eat small portions. However losing weight seems to be the hardest thing in the whole world for most of us mortals. Or else we'd all be tiny people. Some people find it easier than others to lose weight. Is it metabolism, will power, motivation, intelligence, a combination of all of these?

If a pharmacy company ever discovers a safe and effective pill for weight loss, the company will make a zillion dollars, it will be on the front page of Time Magazine, and we'll all be a Size 2.
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Five things are needed to lose weight and be healthy.

1) A complete knowledge of food, the more complete the better. Not the knowledge that comes from advertisements or other such sources.

2) Once you have the knowledge, you need the desire to put what you have learned into practice.

3) The conviction of purpose that what you're doing is correct and necessary for health and longevity. Once you have a firm conviction, no one can sabotage your diet regimen; you're unshakable.

4) Emotional control. This is a big stumbling block for most people and the hardest part for most overweight people. Can you teach someone to have emotional control? It's not very likely.

5) Moderate exercise: Details depend on age and health status

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Michelle Pfeiffer has joined swelling ranks of A-listers by giving up all meat and dairy products.
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An expanding list of celebrity vegans is transforming the popular image of the "no meat, no dairy" lifestyle.

Bill Clinton and his daughter Chelsea, Michelle Pfeiffer, Alec Baldwin, Demi Moore, Ben Stiller, Ellen DeGeneres, Portia De Rossi, Tobey Maguire, Betty White, Joaquin Phoenix, Pamela Anderson, Mike Tyson, Ted Danson, Venus Williams, Woody Harrelson, Rosie O'Donnell, Robin Williams, KD Lang, Russell Brand, Alicia Silverstone, Carl Lewis, Casey Affleck, Erykah Badu, James Cromwell, Alanis Morissette, Russell Simmons, Fiona Apple, Sandra Oh, Bryan Adams, Jessica Chastain, Moby, Carrie Underwood, Ed Begley Jr, Daryl Hannah, Thom Yorke (Radiohead), Abbie Cornish, Erik Roberts, Andre 3000 (Outkast), Chrissie Hynde, Grace Slick, Daniel Johns (Silverchair) ... the list of TV and movie stars, musicians, politicians and athletes who have stopped eating meat and dairy products continues to grow.

Rosie O'Donnell has become vegan and slimmed down after suffering a heart attack in August.

O'Donnell was admitted to hospital and doctors inserted a stent to clear her coronary artery, which was 99 per cent clogged. Almost immediately, 50-year-old O'Donnell cut all animal products from her diet and nine days later tweeted: "nine pounds lost – eating a plant based diet like Bill Clinton."


O'Donnell also spoke to Dr Caldwell Esselstyn, author of Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease, in which the former surgeon and Olympic rowing champion argues that a vegan diet can reverse cardiovascular disease.

Former US president Bill Clinton read Esselstyn's book before switching to a plant-based diet following his quadruple bypass surgery.

"I had been playing Russian roulette," says Clinton, who now consumes no meat, no dairy and no eggs.

"I like the vegetables, the fruits, the beans, the stuff I eat now," Clinton told CNN. "All my blood tests are good, my vital signs are good and I also have, believe it or not, more energy."

Actress Michelle Pfeiffer (Scarface, Dangerous Liaisons) recently stopped eating meat and dairy products after reading the same book.

Seven-time Grand Slam tennis champion Venus Williams switched to a raw vegan diet last year after being diagnosed with Sjogren's syndrome – an autoimmune disease which left her with fatigue so overwhelming that "sitting in a chair was a huge effort." Williams told CBS, " I've made huge improvements since I was first diagnosed ... changing my diet has made a big difference."

Comedian Russell Brand, a longtime vegetarian, became a vegan last year after watching Forks over Knives - a documentary about the health effects of eating animal-based and processed foods.

One of the more unlikely converts to veganism is former world heavyweight boxing champion, "Iron" Mike Tyson - notorious for biting off part of the ear of rival Evander Holyfield during a 1997 title fight. Tyson turned vegan in 2009 and last year told Fox News that he feels "awesome, incredible."

"When you find out about all the garbage you've been eating ... no wonder I was crazy all those years," he says. "The drugs didn't help either," Tyson jokes.

Others including actor Robin Williams and musician Ozzy Osbourne also switched to a vegan diet because of health concerns, but many celebrities cite moral and ethical grounds for their veganism.

(Ethical vegans avoid all animal products including honey, gelatine and rennet. They also avoid leather, wool and other animal by-products.)

"Around 450 billion animals are factory farmed on our planet every year," says talk show host Ellen DeGeneres. "Dairy cows are kept constantly pregnant to produce milk, while their calves, considered by-products, are put to death almost instantly.

"Animal farming is the number one cause of climate change in the world and has a 40 per cent larger carbon footprint than all global transportation – every car, truck, bus, train and plane combined," says DeGeneres.

Spiderman star Tobey Maguire created headlines in Sydney last year when he sent back a new Mercedes he was given for use during the filming of Baz Luhrmann's The Great Gatsby because he objected to the car's leather seats.

Academy Award nominee Alec Baldwin (30 Rock, The Departed) this week is the public face of a new People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) campaign calling for a boycott of circuses that use animals.

Fellow Oscar nominee Joaquin Phoenix (Walk the Line, Gladiator), who became a vegan after a fishing trip as a 3-year-old, narrated the confronting 2005 documentary Earthlings, which examines the suffering of animals for food, fashion, entertainment and medical research.

"Of all the films I have ever made," says Phoenix, "this is the one that gets people talking the most."

"Chickens, cows and pigs in factory farms spend their whole lives in filthy, cramped conditions, only to die a prolonged and painful death," says Casey Affleck (The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Ocean's 11, 12 and 13) in a PETA public service announcement that was banned by US television networks.

"Our inability to communicate with each other and everything that's happening in the world is all a symptom of our greater inability to deal with nature appropriately," says Academy Award nominee Woody Harrelson (The People vs. Larry Flynt), a vegan for more than 20 years.

Cricket legend Greg Chappell, one of the first high-profile Australians to embrace a vegan diet, told Vegan Voice magazine in 2001 that "while the myth of dairy being a 'health food' and meat being necessary for nutrients is allowed to be foisted on an unsuspecting public, most people will continue to ignore the impact that their eating habits have on their health."

Lynda Stoner, star of 80s TV drama Cop Shop and current CEO of Animal Liberation NSW, says she "threw out all my leather products, makeup that had been tested on animals and never ate animal or fish flesh again," after reading Australian philosopher Peter Singer's groundbreaking 1975 book, Animal Liberation.

"Despite being a vegetarian for decades I had always, somewhat bizarrely, kept my head in the sand about the suffering of cows and calves and the trillions of male chicks gassed, macerated or just left to die simply because they had no financial value," says Stoner.

Hollywood's "favourite grandma", 90-year-old Betty White (The Golden Girls, Hot in Cleveland), is a long-time vegan activist who continues to campaign on behalf of several animal rights organisations.
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Michelle Pfeiffer has joined swelling ranks of A-listers by giving up all meat and dairy products.
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An expanding list of celebrity vegans is transforming the popular image of the "no meat, no dairy" lifestyle.

Bill Clinton and his daughter Chelsea, Michelle Pfeiffer, Alec Baldwin, Demi Moore, Ben Stiller, Ellen DeGeneres, Portia De Rossi, Tobey Maguire, Betty White, Joaquin Phoenix, Pamela Anderson, Mike Tyson, Ted Danson, Venus Williams, Woody Harrelson, Rosie O'Donnell, Robin Williams, KD Lang, Russell Brand, Alicia Silverstone, Carl Lewis, Casey Affleck, Erykah Badu, James Cromwell, Alanis Morissette, Russell Simmons, Fiona Apple, Sandra Oh, Bryan Adams, Jessica Chastain, Moby, Carrie Underwood, Ed Begley Jr, Daryl Hannah, Thom Yorke (Radiohead), Abbie Cornish, Erik Roberts, Andre 3000 (Outkast), Chrissie Hynde, Grace Slick, Daniel Johns (Silverchair) ... the list of TV and movie stars, musicians, politicians and athletes who have stopped eating meat and dairy products continues to grow.

Rosie O'Donnell has become vegan and slimmed down after suffering a heart attack in August.

O'Donnell was admitted to hospital and doctors inserted a stent to clear her coronary artery, which was 99 per cent clogged. Almost immediately, 50-year-old O'Donnell cut all animal products from her diet and nine days later tweeted: "nine pounds lost – eating a plant based diet like Bill Clinton."


O'Donnell also spoke to Dr Caldwell Esselstyn, author of Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease, in which the former surgeon and Olympic rowing champion argues that a vegan diet can reverse cardiovascular disease.

Former US president Bill Clinton read Esselstyn's book before switching to a plant-based diet following his quadruple bypass surgery.

"I had been playing Russian roulette," says Clinton, who now consumes no meat, no dairy and no eggs.

"I like the vegetables, the fruits, the beans, the stuff I eat now," Clinton told CNN. "All my blood tests are good, my vital signs are good and I also have, believe it or not, more energy."

Actress Michelle Pfeiffer (Scarface, Dangerous Liaisons) recently stopped eating meat and dairy products after reading the same book.

Seven-time Grand Slam tennis champion Venus Williams switched to a raw vegan diet last year after being diagnosed with Sjogren's syndrome – an autoimmune disease which left her with fatigue so overwhelming that "sitting in a chair was a huge effort." Williams told CBS, " I've made huge improvements since I was first diagnosed ... changing my diet has made a big difference."

Comedian Russell Brand, a longtime vegetarian, became a vegan last year after watching Forks over Knives - a documentary about the health effects of eating animal-based and processed foods.

One of the more unlikely converts to veganism is former world heavyweight boxing champion, "Iron" Mike Tyson - notorious for biting off part of the ear of rival Evander Holyfield during a 1997 title fight. Tyson turned vegan in 2009 and last year told Fox News that he feels "awesome, incredible."

"When you find out about all the garbage you've been eating ... no wonder I was crazy all those years," he says. "The drugs didn't help either," Tyson jokes.

Others including actor Robin Williams and musician Ozzy Osbourne also switched to a vegan diet because of health concerns, but many celebrities cite moral and ethical grounds for their veganism.

(Ethical vegans avoid all animal products including honey, gelatine and rennet. They also avoid leather, wool and other animal by-products.)

"Around 450 billion animals are factory farmed on our planet every year," says talk show host Ellen DeGeneres. "Dairy cows are kept constantly pregnant to produce milk, while their calves, considered by-products, are put to death almost instantly.

"Animal farming is the number one cause of climate change in the world and has a 40 per cent larger carbon footprint than all global transportation – every car, truck, bus, train and plane combined," says DeGeneres.

Spiderman star Tobey Maguire created headlines in Sydney last year when he sent back a new Mercedes he was given for use during the filming of Baz Luhrmann's The Great Gatsby because he objected to the car's leather seats.

Academy Award nominee Alec Baldwin (30 Rock, The Departed) this week is the public face of a new People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) campaign calling for a boycott of circuses that use animals.

Fellow Oscar nominee Joaquin Phoenix (Walk the Line, Gladiator), who became a vegan after a fishing trip as a 3-year-old, narrated the confronting 2005 documentary Earthlings, which examines the suffering of animals for food, fashion, entertainment and medical research.

"Of all the films I have ever made," says Phoenix, "this is the one that gets people talking the most."

"Chickens, cows and pigs in factory farms spend their whole lives in filthy, cramped conditions, only to die a prolonged and painful death," says Casey Affleck (The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Ocean's 11, 12 and 13) in a PETA public service announcement that was banned by US television networks.

"Our inability to communicate with each other and everything that's happening in the world is all a symptom of our greater inability to deal with nature appropriately," says Academy Award nominee Woody Harrelson (The People vs. Larry Flynt), a vegan for more than 20 years.

Cricket legend Greg Chappell, one of the first high-profile Australians to embrace a vegan diet, told Vegan Voice magazine in 2001 that "while the myth of dairy being a 'health food' and meat being necessary for nutrients is allowed to be foisted on an unsuspecting public, most people will continue to ignore the impact that their eating habits have on their health."

Lynda Stoner, star of 80s TV drama Cop Shop and current CEO of Animal Liberation NSW, says she "threw out all my leather products, makeup that had been tested on animals and never ate animal or fish flesh again," after reading Australian philosopher Peter Singer's groundbreaking 1975 book, Animal Liberation.

"Despite being a vegetarian for decades I had always, somewhat bizarrely, kept my head in the sand about the suffering of cows and calves and the trillions of male chicks gassed, macerated or just left to die simply because they had no financial value," says Stoner.

Hollywood's "favourite grandma", 90-year-old Betty White (The Golden Girls, Hot in Cleveland), is a long-time vegan activist who continues to campaign on behalf of several animal rights organisations.

Golly. AND Boy Howdy. Celebrities are a different breed indeed.
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I'm not trying to be contrary, but sometimes, nothing stops the early arrival of the grim reaper. RIP Michael Clarke Duncan, an actor I enjoyed watching.

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I watched the Green Mile about two ago.......sad at that age for sure
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If a pharmacy company ever discovers a safe and effective pill for weight loss, the company will make a zillion dollars, it will be on the front page of Time Magazine, and we'll all be a Size 2.
They are already making zillions with phony pills that do more harm than good.
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This is probably TMI – but, I actually know quite a bit about this.

For folks who were of average weight for most of their lives; but, who failed to adjust their caloric intake/activity level as their metabolism changed due to age, the success rate of diet/exercise, while relatively low, certainly justifies the effort. Certain medication can help. Groups, like Weight Watchers, help.

Remember, it is possible for anyone to lose weight – even large amounts – for a short period. You need to examine success rates on studies that follow patients for at least 5 years. Also, every time you diet and lose a lot of weight, that comes with a price. Successful dieting actually changes your metabolism so if you regain the weight, subsequent dieting is much harder to achieve the same result.

No one said life is fair.

For the chronically obese, diets and exercise rarely work for the long term. I come from a family where everyone is chronically obese. And it is not due to behavior. I was raised in a totally separate home and far away from my half brothers. Daddy had bad genes and we all grew up fat.

My ex-wife used to always wonder how I could be so large (5'8” and at one time 375) while eating so little. Daddy died a bad death due to diabetes which I developed. I decided things had to change (BTW – I did the medically supervised starvation diet in college and lost over 100 lbs...that lasted 4 years).

After a bunch of research, I found that studies showed that the only real option for the chronically obese is a gastric bypass (Roux-n-y). Lap bands don't have the same success rate and duodenal switch surgery is really, really risky (it is probably why Jessie Jackson Jr. is at Mayo..but, he had one and his chronic depression is likely a side effect of malnutrition).

For me, I lost 155 lbs (from 375 to 220) regained 55 lbs due to bad behavior related to the divorce and now have lost 25 lbs since the divorce (so down to 250) and as the weight is slowly coming down again I think 200 is a reasonable goal.

More upsides...no more diabetes, normal blood pressure and great cardiac numbers.

There are big costs...I can't eat a normal sized meal. I fill up way too quick. Eating can hurt. There is also another issue that comes with gastric bypass that is way too much TMI. Also, I have to take lots of vitamins and have regular blood chems drawn.

Also, loosing weight quickly will introduce you to the wonderful world of kidney stones and gall stones (the latter I avoided because my gall bladder was already full of stones so they removed it during the roux-n-y...a $6000 upcharge).

Also, I might have to have a body lift....but, I won't consider it until finally done losing.

I am sharing all this stuff, because there is a great deal of misinformation in this thread. We have such goofy issues concerning size in this country and most of the stuff you read is absolute nonsense. Indeed, fat is the last OK prejudice.

Lastly, for those considering surgery – you need to doc shop carfully. Trust me – you want it done at a major research/university hospital. You want it done laparoscopically by a doc that publishes his findings and has performed this surgery thousands of times. You need to ask tough questions..the first being how many have died and how often have you been sued and had to settle.
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