[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

It’s seems to me that those that post their anti-vax anti mask propaganda at us , sure change their tune when they are about to be put on a respirator due to Covid from their risky behavior . Who are they kidding?
And how many of them who were asymptomatic walked around , with no regard for others , and spread Covid through out our community causing some to die who got infected by the
ones who refuse to follow the CDC guidelines. These menaces to our community our kinda like the food preparers who changed their babies diapers and come to work without washing their hands mentality.

Ahhh that’s special you think they have a clue or “ change their tune” when you intubate, and set the parameters for the vent. Nope that’s the families job, which may or may not be the wishes of the patient.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

It’s seems to me that those that post their anti-vax anti mask propaganda at us , sure change their tune when they are about to be put on a respirator due to Covid from their risky behavior . Who are they kidding?
And how many of them who were asymptomatic walked around , with no regard for others , and spread Covid through out our community causing some to die who got infected by the
ones who refuse to follow the CDC guidelines. These menaces to our community our kinda like the food preparers who changed their babies diapers and come to work without washing their hands mentality.

Not even 100% but unless you MUST go out (and if you do, mask even in the car alone) stay inside your home. Not sure if two masks are better in the car. I know when a car is under water, the water flows in from all over the place. Same can happen with covid. Gas stations too are horrible. You can die from pumping gas. How many people touch those handles. Remaining in the house really is the safest. Does anyone have any tips on how to get food without worrying that the bags and packaging have been touched by who knows who? Sarasota Herald reported during the beginning of this that the virus can travel through plumbing (ie water) pipes. I don't see what can be done there. Maybe boil water before drinking. A friend up North starting growing what she called cellar onions. Of course we do not have cellars so that doesn't help us.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Transplant

Actually it was the government's rules

Not everywhere...

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by maistocars

yup, it must be that time of season to rev this up again. Oh yes, 2024 is around the corner.

I do not know why "some" (I have no up arrow) fight so aggressively against their own safety. The safest thing for the election is to place boxes outside town halls and pick them up weekly. Kind of like when we were kids and the teacher would put a decorated box with a slit on top for us to drop Valentine cards into. It worked then. Even using a pen can be fatal for some. And using money is very VERY dangerous. They should do away with that. Maybe have a digital currency like Canada is testing.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by RedChariot

A freaking cold???? Tell that to the over 3 million people who died worldwide from this virus.

Globally 1.7 million people die a year from the common cold.

That's nothing to sneeze at.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

It’s seems to me that those that post their anti-vax anti mask propaganda at us , sure change their tune when they are about to be put on a respirator due to Covid from their risky behavior . Who are they kidding?
And how many of them who were asymptomatic walked around , with no regard for others , and spread Covid through out our community causing some to die who got infected by the
ones who refuse to follow the CDC guidelines. These menaces to our community our kinda like the food preparers who changed their babies diapers and come to work without washing their hands mentality.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by RedChariot

A freaking cold???? Tell that to the over 3 million people who died worldwide WITH this virus.

Fixed it for you...

[TeresaE]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

At CoachK's hospitals, the hospital staff COVID infection rate is borderline to the hospitals requiring staff and patients to be masked mandatorily.

Friends of mine are coming down sick testing positive. .

Just facts, no judgements, YMMV

Boston waste water upticking and its still summertime in the NorthEast!

Various covid viruses (aka colds) were here long before the strain we called covid-19. Various new covids will be around long after we are gone. The latest strain is as close to the original Covid-19 strain as dinosaurs are to birds. Between the natural immunity we’ve likely developed from contracting the original and its near cousins and the vaccines, we’re all likely going to be just fine. As for masks, they were just a political devise to make us feel good about going out in public. They made absolutely no difference.

[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by Whitley

I do not know why "some" (I have no up arrow) fight so aggressively against their own safety. The safest thing for the election is to place boxes outside town halls and pick them up weekly. Kind of like when we were kids and the teacher would put a decorated box with a slit on top for us to drop Valentine cards into. It worked then. Even using a pen can be fatal for some. And using money is very VERY dangerous. They should do away with that. Maybe have a digital currency like Canada is testing.

Can never be too safe

[Normal]

Originally Posted by RedChariot

A freaking cold???? Tell that to the over 3 million people who died worldwide from this virus.

The virus circulating now isn’t the initial Corona virus. The flu is more lethal than the current Corona virus being discussed. Few wore masks for the flu before the pandemic that is now over according to the US government.

[TeresaE]

Originally Posted by Randall55

For some it is a cold, for others it is a life threatening situation. A virus mutates and changes. If you want to gamble that a stronger string will not kill you, that is your choice. But, don't infect others in the process.

First, strains typically get weaker not more virulent. Second, between natural immunity and the vaccines most of us carry enough antibodies to protect us from severe illness. Third, the correlation between finding viral mRNA or DNA in a municipal sewage samples and illness is suspect. Just ask yourself, does genetic material or pieces of genetic material amplified by PCR equal living organisms? Forth, masks made no difference in transmission or rates of infection. So go live your life and let the rest of us do the same without useless masking, distancing or pointless mandates.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

The virus circulating now isn’t the initial Corona virus. The flu is more lethal than the current Corona virus being discussed. Few wore masks for the flu before the pandemic that is now over according to the US government.

I'll bet there's no study that shows that!

A study last year showed Covid was more deadly but that would be a different variant.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Maker

If you do test positive, please don't go out, around others, while you are sick.
Even if you wear an N95 or better mask. That mask will saturate and fail. If you sneeze, it will blow covid around it. Masks are designed to block incoming air, not your exhaust that pushes it off your skin and allows covid to bypass the mask and infect people around you.

Maker, then please explain to me... Why do surgeons wear "face diapers" ? Are they wearing it to not breathe in germs from the patient on the table? You just educated me that masks are only worn to block incoming air. Or are you just spouting nonsense because you can on this website?

I will eagerly await your well thought out reply.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by TeresaE

First, strains typically get weaker not more virulent. Second, between natural immunity and the vaccines most of us carry enough antibodies to protect us from severe illness. Third, the correlation between finding viral mRNA or DNA in a municipal sewage samples and illness is suspect. Just ask yourself, does genetic material or pieces of genetic material amplified by PCR equal living organisms? Forth, masks made no difference in transmission or rates of infection. So go live your life and let the rest of us do the same without useless masking, distancing or pointless mandates.

Talk about sewage... It is 100% accurate to say that the finding of viral RNA in wastewater indicates circulating infectious virus in the community. There is nothing suspect about it except I suspect you don't know what you're talking about. You in your greater wisdom could perhaps explain to me how genetic material from Covid gets into the wastewater if there is no Covid in area.

Fourth, you are wrong that masks made no difference. The data, and there is lots of it if you want to do a GoogleScholar search, showed masks did work, just less well than hoped. The failure to find greater efficacy is because of people not wearing masks correctly, and human nature to not practice good hygiene, hand wash, social distance etc. even when mask wearing.

Lastly, you are correct that some viral strains tend to weaken over time, that is sadly not always the case. If it were then we would never have a more severe influenza season. We would never have seen SARS or MERS. Polio would have disappeared without a vaccine... and measles... and ebola... and etc. etc. etc.

[cjrjck]

I was required to be fitted for an N95 mask yearly. Our agency would board foreign vessels with the CDC and local county health officials in the case a crewman illnesses that rose to a certain level of suspicion. The masks had to be properly fitted by an expert. There were various sizes and even special order modifications. Once fitted, the wearer was covered by a hood and an aerosol was sprayed into the hood. If the wearer had any reaction to the mist, the fitting was improper. Once fitted, we were given several of the proper sized masks. I learned two things: it was not easy to get a proper fit, and the masks were one and done. Never used twice. That would introduce bacteria and other contaminants to the mask. Even then, they were not 100 percent effective. I can tell you that 99 percent of the masks worn for covid were worthless. Improper fit and construction. Worse even, they gave the wearer a false sense of security that could actually cause the wearer to be less cautious. Additionally, they were filthy if worn more than once. Anytime the wearer touched the mask it potentially contaminated it.