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golfing eagles 08-26-2023 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2249561)
Never say never. In the future, things change. There could be a NEW virus and people might have to wear a mask to get on a plane or enter a building. The world has global warming and warming causes more virus growth, not less.

Yep, global warming causes viral infections. That’s a new one 😂😂😂

jimjamuser 08-26-2023 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragman (Post 2249602)
COVID is now endemic and will circulate with other respiratory viruses in some form for years to come.

We are now at the point of a personal level of risk. If your health risk is high or toleration of risk is low, by all means mask, distance or do anything that you think necessary. If you fell otherwise , don't. Your physician is the best source of your personal health risk.

I know many more people who have contracted COVID in the past few months, but in almost all cases a relatively mild case (yes, some are more severe especially in older adults or those with comorbidities just like the flu or RSV) All these viruses will wax and wane to an extent.

Personally, I don't intend to mask on a regular basis, but carry a N-95 in case I'm in a doctor's office or other places where there may be a population of ill persons. I will get my annual flu shot, as well as a RSV and COVID booster when available this fall. I ask none of you to do more or less than I, but do wish you would stay home if you have any respiratory symptoms ( as I would have asked 10 years ago, before COVID was a passing thought).

All this debate is good grist for blogs and MSM articles, but would not be frighting to too many people if not for the internet and 24/7 news cycle.

A good post. The last sentence was a little questionable.

jimjamuser 08-26-2023 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KJ1325 (Post 2249603)
COVID is just another word for politics and power. Never got a shot. Never got a booster. Hardly ever wore a mask. Never got a flu shot. Grew up on a 1000 acre farm milking 100 head of dairy cows. I think I've been exposed to most diseases and chemicals around. And I'm still here.

Statistically, that is an N of one. To understand COVID you need to have a bigger group, like what is happening in the whole US.

jimjamuser 08-26-2023 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2249675)
Yep, global warming causes viral infections. That’s a new one 😂😂😂

Global warming, excess population growth, greater airline travel - they are all related.

jimjamuser 08-27-2023 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2249675)
Yep, global warming causes viral infections. That’s a new one

Global Warming does NOT cause infections to increase - that IS correct. But, it does cause HEAT conditions that ALLOW it to spread. Step outside in the afternoon today and do some yard work or play sports and people will be wringing WET - because your whole system is STRESSED by the HEAT. A heat-related highly stressed human (or any animal) is more prone to heart attack, heat stroke, muscle cramps, and respiratory infections.
........Basically, the HEAT has driven people indoors and COVID hospitalizations are up approximately 20% in Florida.

golfing eagles 08-27-2023 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250114)
Global Warming does NOT cause infections to increase - that IS correct. But, it does cause HEAT conditions that ALLOW it to spread. Step outside in the afternoon today and do some yard work or play sports and people will be wringing WET - because your whole system is STRESSED by the HEAT. A heat-related highly stressed human (or any animal) is more prone to heart attack, heat stroke, muscle cramps, and respiratory infections.
........Basically, the HEAT has driven people indoors and COVID hospitalizations are up approximately 20% in Florida.

By that reasoning the creation of the universe caused global warming (and cooling)

Two Bills 08-27-2023 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mlmarr (Post 2249243)
still believing the nonsense and the stick from China for testing.. so sad a simple cold / flu bug will test postive with the chemical stick ..

Nope. Family has had colds and tested. Never a positive.

ohiosbestus 08-27-2023 10:36 AM

covid
 
10 days ago i was having some lung congestion and called the doctor at the Villages healthcare and they told me to come in. On the way there I got a call from villages healthcare that before i come into the building I had to tak a covid test . It was negative but they did say they had a spike of covid cases that resulted in lost of employees with covid.

tophcfa 08-27-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ohiosbestus (Post 2250141)
10 days ago i was having some lung congestion and called the doctor at the Villages healthcare and they told me to come in. On the way there I got a call from villages healthcare that before i come into the building I had to tak a covid test . It was negative but they did say they had a spike of covid cases that resulted in lost of employees with covid.

It’s definitely making a resurgence, I know a couple people who recently got infected and just learned that the Red Sox had to put a player on the Covid list. We are keeping an eye out for when the new vaccine will be available that includes the newer omicron sub-variants.

JMintzer 08-27-2023 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2250114)
Global Warming does NOT cause infections to increase - that IS correct. But, it does cause HEAT conditions that ALLOW it to spread. Step outside in the afternoon today and do some yard work or play sports and people will be wringing WET - because your whole system is STRESSED by the HEAT. A heat-related highly stressed human (or any animal) is more prone to heart attack, heat stroke, muscle cramps, and respiratory infections.
........Basically, the HEAT has driven people indoors and COVID hospitalizations are up approximately 20% in Florida.

Please explain how global warming cause the "Cold & Flu Season" in the WINTER...

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-27-2023 03:47 PM

We've had a few folks in a club I'm in here in the Villages who've been sick with COVID within the past month. One had to be hospitalized for a couple of days as a precaution but they're out now and slowly recovering. The others seem to have had some moderate symptoms and have already recovered.

I'll wear a mask if the CDC and my health insurance company and doctor recommends it, whether the state requires it or not. I don't give a flying fert what the state has to say about it. I care about MY health, and the health of my friends and family. The state can jump off a cliff for all I care. I have left over masks, and I'm happy to use them if it's recommended, or if any stores I shop at require them.

Unlike some people, I'm not afraid to wear a mask, I don't fear the loss of freedom and in fact I celebrate my freedom to do as I darned well please. Including - wearing a mask.

Normal 08-27-2023 04:46 PM

Do you care
 
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2250159)
It’s definitely making a resurgence, I know a couple people who recently got infected and just learned that the Red Sox had to put a player on the Covid list. We are keeping an eye out for when the new vaccine will be available that includes the newer omicron sub-variants.

The newest version of Covid is less lethal than the common cold, so what does it matter?

Bill14564 08-27-2023 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2250263)
The newest version of Covid is less lethal than the common cold, so what does it matter?

Where did you get that information from? (I didn't realize the common cold was lethal at all)

margaretmattson 08-27-2023 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2250263)
The newest version of Covid is less lethal than the common cold, so what does it matter?

For some it is less lethal than the common cold. Hospitals once again are seeing a surge in Covid patients. If someone needs to be hospitalized they are experiencing severe effects.

asianthree 08-27-2023 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2250276)
For some it is less lethal than the common cold. Hospitals once again are seeing a surge in Covid patients. If someone needs to be hospitalized they are experiencing severe effects.

As opposed to just checking in for a little R&R.

JMintzer 08-27-2023 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2250236)
We've had a few folks in a club I'm in here in the Villages who've been sick with COVID within the past month. One had to be hospitalized for a couple of days as a precaution but they're out now and slowly recovering. The others seem to have had some moderate symptoms and have already recovered.

I'll wear a mask if the CDC and my health insurance company and doctor recommends it, whether the state requires it or not. I don't give a flying fert what the state has to say about it. I care about MY health, and the health of my friends and family. The state can jump off a cliff for all I care. I have left over masks, and I'm happy to use them if it's recommended, or if any stores I shop at require them.

Unlike some people, I'm not afraid to wear a mask, I don't fear the loss of freedom and in fact I celebrate my freedom to do as I darned well please. Including - wearing a mask.

No one is "afraid" to wear a mask...

JMintzer 08-27-2023 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2250269)
Where did you get that information from? (I didn't realize the common cold was lethal at all)

Any upper respiratory infection can be lethal the the right (or wrong) person...

bcsnave 08-28-2023 05:40 AM

On a serious note, take care of your own health. Your body...your choice

Happinow 08-28-2023 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2249644)
Incorrect. FL was ranked at 31 in "age adjusted" deaths. NY was 17 and CA was 38...

States Ranked by Age-Adjusted COVID Deaths

And you believe those numbers? If someone went in for a broken arm, they coded it Covid! All numbers were hyper inflated. Don’t believe a word…..sheeple.

bcsnave 08-28-2023 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 2250450)
And you believe those numbers? If someone went in for a broken arm, they coded it Covid! All numbers were hyper inflated. Don’t believe a word…..sheeple.

My mother passed from Supranuclear palsy which is a rare degenerative neurological condition that caused issues with her balance, vision, speech and swallowing. Eventually leaving her bed ridden and her body shuting down. It was a matter of time but low and behold what was the cause when she passed in October 2020, surpise COVID.

PS. - Order your Anti Virus masks now https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...9-post179.html

JMintzer 08-28-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 2250450)
And you believe those numbers? If someone went in for a broken arm, they coded it Covid! All numbers were hyper inflated. Don’t believe a word…..sheeple.

I was responding to the erroneous information posted by our resident Covid "Chicken Little"...

Your "sheeple" insult is misdirected...

Vermilion Villager 08-28-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Erider (Post 2248894)
Cochrane Library

The pooled results of RCTs did not show a clear reduction in respiratory viral infection with the use of medical/surgical masks. There were no clear differences between the use of medical/surgical masks compared with N95/P2 respirators in healthcare workers when used in routine care to reduce respiratory viral infection.

You forgot this little tidbit in the study you were quoting.....:posting:
Many studies were conducted during non‐epidemic influenza periods. Several were conducted during the 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic, and others in epidemic influenza seasons up to 2016. Therefore, many studies were conducted in the context of lower respiratory viral circulation and transmission compared to COVID‐19.

Bill14564 08-28-2023 03:49 PM

Amazing how much better the feed looks after a.couple of clicks and a single add to the ignore list.

I'm Popeye! 08-28-2023 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2250236)
We've had a few folks in a club I'm in here in the Villages who've been sick with COVID within the past month. One had to be hospitalized for a couple of days as a precaution but they're out now and slowly recovering. The others seem to have had some moderate symptoms and have already recovered.

I'll wear a mask if the CDC and my health insurance company and doctor recommends it, whether the state requires it or not. I don't give a flying fert what the state has to say about it. I care about MY health, and the health of my friends and family. The state can jump off a cliff for all I care. I have left over masks, and I'm happy to use them if it's recommended, or if any stores I shop at require them.

Unlike some people, I'm not afraid to wear a mask, I don't fear the loss of freedom and in fact I celebrate my freedom to do as I darned well please. Including - wearing a mask.

Shouldn't you be naming the Federal Government instead of the State?
The Fed is the one mandating while the State is giving you a choice, but we know your logic here, OrangeBlossomLady....

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-28-2023 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2250642)
Shouldn't you be naming the Federal Government instead of the State?
The Fed is the one mandating while the State is giving you a choice, but we know your logic here, OrangeBlossomLady....

You seem to misremember the mandate that public schools were not ALLOWED to mandate masks, putting children at risk of illness, and their families at risk when little Susie came home with a cough.

Perhaps you don't remember when the Sheriff of Ocala refused to ALLOW anyone in his building wearing a mask - they were required to take them off if they wanted to come inside.

Even when the state reversed its school anti-mask mandate, they didn't offer accommodations for students who wanted to keep a social distance from other students whose parents chose not to make their kids wear masks. That's not giving kids or parents choices. That's a very decisive anti-mask agenda, and stripping freedoms from people.

And as I said, I don't care what the state says about it. I don't care what anti-whatever agenda the state chooses to mandate from one week to the next. I will continue exercising my Federally-mandated FREEDOM to wear my mask, or not, as I see fit or as is required by any private building that permits me to enter.

Pugchief 08-28-2023 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2250654)

Even when the state reversed its school anti-mask mandate, they didn't offer accommodations for students who wanted to keep a social distance from other students whose parents chose not to make their kids wear masks. That's not giving kids or parents choices. That's a very decisive anti-mask agenda, and stripping freedoms from people.

And as I said, I don't care what the state says about it. I don't care what anti-whatever agenda the state chooses to mandate from one week to the next. I will continue exercising my Federally-mandated FREEDOM to wear my mask, or not, as I see fit or as is required by any private building that permits me to enter.

This makes no sense. If you think masks work against Covid, then why should it matter what other people do? Wear your mask and the kids who want to can mask up as well. Everybody does what is best for them and everyone is happy.

I'm Popeye! 08-28-2023 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2250654)
You seem to misremember the mandate that public schools were not ALLOWED to mandate masks, putting children at risk of illness, and their families at risk when little Susie came home with a cough.

Perhaps you don't remember when the Sheriff of Ocala refused to ALLOW anyone in his building wearing a mask - they were required to take them off if they wanted to come inside.

Even when the state reversed its school anti-mask mandate, they didn't offer accommodations for students who wanted to keep a social distance from other students whose parents chose not to make their kids wear masks. That's not giving kids or parents choices. That's a very decisive anti-mask agenda, and stripping freedoms from people.

And as I said, I don't care what the state says about it. I don't care what anti-whatever agenda the state chooses to mandate from one week to the next. I will continue exercising my Federally-mandated FREEDOM to wear my mask, or not, as I see fit or as is required by any private building that permits me to enter.

Did you know, that now they are saying "Masks can cause cancer"? Most of the masks that are worn here in the United States come from China... You know, the same place where cancer-causing Drywall came from..
Maybe I'll get a "Like" from your Kissy Kissy "tophcfa" this time... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 08-28-2023 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2250654)
You seem to misremember the mandate that public schools were not ALLOWED to mandate masks, putting children at risk of illness, and their families at risk when little Susie came home with a cough.

Perhaps you don't remember when the Sheriff of Ocala refused to ALLOW anyone in his building wearing a mask - they were required to take them off if they wanted to come inside.

Even when the state reversed its school anti-mask mandate, they didn't offer accommodations for students who wanted to keep a social distance from other students whose parents chose not to make their kids wear masks. That's not giving kids or parents choices. That's a very decisive anti-mask agenda, and stripping freedoms from people.

And as I said, I don't care what the state says about it. I don't care what anti-whatever agenda the state chooses to mandate from one week to the next. I will continue exercising my Federally-mandated FREEDOM to wear my mask, or not, as I see fit or as is required by any private building that permits me to enter.

That’s fair, but just one question: When you exercise your freedom to wear your mask, just what do you think you are protecting yourself from? Certainly not a virus, maybe particulates from a nearby fire?

I'm Popeye! 08-29-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bcsnave (Post 2250724)
Oh this uptick is horrible. I am getting prepared and taking precautions against the virus.

I am marking and selling anti virus masks. These are selling for $19.99 ...but wait If you act now I will include a second mask for only $3.99 and all you will pay is shipping and handling.

Please order now

This must be the funniest thing this person has ever done in their life....
Have posted it 3-to 4 times here already. Go to the sales section maybe you get someone to bite.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-29-2023 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2250728)
That’s fair, but just one question: When you exercise your freedom to wear your mask, just what do you think you are protecting yourself from? Certainly not a virus, maybe particulates from a nearby fire?

Why do you care? Maybe I'm not protecting myself from anything. Maybe I want to make a fashion statement. Maybe I like the idea that the Japanese typically wear masks when they leave the house, and I want to start a trend. Maybe I'm a Muslim Arab woman who feels that you don't deserve the privilege of seeing my face and masks are more comfortable than full-veil hijabs.


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