[NachoMama]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Because the 66 plus-year-old is more likely to become positive. The more people are positive, the more become hospitalized and overcrowd the hospitals. They run up huge bills that can NEVER be paid by the individuals. Plus some die. All this does is destabilize healthcare and its financial base. It eventually adversely affects all of society.

And what of the virus? With many positive over 65 cases, the virus has an increased environment to duplicate in - and mutate. Summary........there really is a case to be made for vaccinating the over 65 age group early. The same could be said for the over 75 which, I believe was the original intent of the CDC. But, state Governors decided that they knew better than the Science experts at the CDC. What a surprise, who knew?

Nonsense. The retiree can stay at home, and none of us will suffer in his absence. He wants the vaccine so he can go out and play.

Also, and this is actual science, the 66 year old is *not* more likely to become positive than of the 59 year old doing a critical job. He may, due to age and flab, be more likely to croak - but that’s why he should play it safe and stay home until the folks performing essential duties have been stuck.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

What about my children? Me, me, and mine first right?

Mine have been vaccinated, yep before most. It was mandatory, or resign. If they had a choice all would have refused.

[rondvu2]

A 49 year old nurse would probably want the 66 year old retire to go first so she has one less patient

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by Skip

Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip

Thats all federal guidelines NOT the guidelines for the state of Fl. Many should fully understand the news articles before posting them and scaring people. Do you actually think Winn Dixie will operate under seperate guidelines than everywhere else??? Think about it!! Its the same there as anywhere else in Fl, so to the rest of the readers.......jump on an appt as soon as it opens! And Oh My God, you have to reveal your race!! Horrors!! 99% of any forms or apps has that question. Whats the big deal? You answer all the personal questions on the form about your health and youre horrified to list your race?? Do you actually think a computer generated appointment will seperate the apps according to race? Is that the insinuation?

[banjobob]

My wife was one of those that was jumping through the hoops for the vaccine , finally connected in Orange County , personally I am in good health 80 years old and may not get the shot ,still considering . When my “Doc”
has it I might get one at his office.

[allsport]

Everyone signs their rights away wherever they get it.

[Civicar]

I believe Winn Dixie got it right. If those had been the vaccination guidelines across the country from the beginning, our infection rate would be much lower now. We, Seniors, can control our points of contact and how much we want to go out and control our level of exposure much more than all those who are working in jobs with contact with lots of people every single day. If they are vaccinated first, that protects Seniors and everyone else from possible infection. The only reason, in my opinion, that our Governor made "Seniors First" is that we vote at higher percentages than younger people. We need to put health before politics in a global pandemic. Even people in Nursing homes are better protected if their younger staff are vaccinated and tested first. That is a bubble that contacts can be controlled. Kudos to Winn Dixie!

[dhdallas]

Despicable to have to wait our turn. The Villagers are God's Chosen People. "Me first, me first" is our battle cry!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Would you place young healthy people that have to work ahead of people over the age of 65 with health issues.

Most of the deaths are of people senior citizens with underlying conditions. The chances of younger people dying from Covid-19 is very low.

I say stop the death toll before stopping spreading of the virus.

I would add to that the fact that vaccinating the elderly will keep more hospital ICU beds free.

[coffeebean]

This is one of those conundrum situations. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by allsport

Everyone signs their rights away wherever they get it.

Are you actually serious?

[Byte1]

Everyone should be able to get the vaccination IF they want it, but when there is still a shortage they have to choose the most vulnerable first. The most vulnerable are the seniors, period. The young simply shrug the virus off easier than the Flu, IF they are not medically handicapped. If the first responders are young, then they could wait a bit to get their shots until there was sufficient quantity to go around. They might get sick and miss a couple days of work. Same with many medical professionals, UNLESS there is a threat that they might pass on the virus to patients. To say that someone working in a restaurant or a discount store NEEDS the vaccination in order to work is being disingenuous. To say that teachers need to be inoculated before teaching is also exaggerating. How many of these folks get the Flu shot every year? A few months ago, everyone was screaming about the hospitals being overwhelmed by COVID patients and people dying. Now, everyone wants the shot so that they can go back to work or do whatever it is they do. Are they going to die without it? Doubtful. Retired does not mean someone else is more valuable. It means that retirees have worked long enough to EARN the right to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Retired or aged or senior does not mean they deserve to die, just because they are in a younger generation's way. Take care of those that have paved the way for YOU and then take care of those less vulnerable. I am not saying that folks that are prone to illness and have a low immunity should have to wait, but the stats prove that the aged are dying from the virus at a much higher rate when exposed.
When I said that anyone that is worrying about others not wearing a mask should stay home, I was told that I don't care about my fellow man if I did not care about folks wearing a mask. Now, you folks are saying if you are old you should stay home and let the young go to work and school with an inoculation. Funny how that works, huh?

I spent hours and days/weeks trying to get my spouse a vaccination for the virus and finally succeeded. There were hundreds of thousands competing for the spot. I finally got her an appointment this week and spontaneously succeeded in getting me one also. I had originally though of waiting until the VA offered them, as I have not been worried about contracting the virus. I seem to have a very good immunity system, so I have not been concerned for myself. I had to make an hour and half trip one way to get her the shot so I went ahead and got mine also. Now the VA is offering their Vets COVID vaccinations. Go figure.
The point is that the only way to get this country back to normal is to reduce the hospitalizations and deaths. You don't lower that rate by giving the shots FIRST to everyone but the seniors. The seniors are filling up the hospital beds and dying. The young can weather a couple of days of discomfort. Very few have had serious effects from the virus.

Someone said something about giving the vaccination to those that are in close proximity of customers or patients with the reasoning that they would not be passing it on to others if they have been vaccinated. That interesting because I read that they do not know if an immune person can pass it on or not. That is the reason they want everyone to continue to wear masks, so they don't pass it on to others. If wearing a mask protects others, and you do not have the virus then why else would you continue to wear a stupid mask? I am not wearing the mask to protect myself if I am immune. If I am protecting you because you do not have the vaccination yet, then I shouldn't need much of a mask because something against your face is going to stop droplets from being expelled, regardless of how thin the material is, right? Just a thought.
If I am getting this serum put into me to make me immune, then I am not going to wear a mask to protect others. Why? Because you should worry about wearing a mask to protect yourself.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by asianthree

Those who are exposed to the public, who have to work to feed their families, can go first.

I am happy for those who are chasing the vaccine, spending days on every mobile device, and traveling hours to get their dose.

Haven’t changed much since last March, no worries on, or if vaccine will be available. Life is still good.

I believe in several weeks they will be competing for your business (shots) just as in FLU shots. This will happen once vaccine is more available.

[Civicar]

The vaccines don't give immunity. The percentages refer to efficacy. The vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting very sick or dying. But you can still get infected after vaccination and at least with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines you can pass the virus on to others. So please keep your masks on!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by NachoMama

Nonsense. The retiree can stay at home, and none of us will suffer in his absence. He wants the vaccine so he can go out and play.

Also, and this is actual science, the 66 year old is *not* more likely to become positive than of the 59 year old doing a critical job. He may, due to age and flab, be more likely to croak - but that’s why he should play it safe and stay home until the folks performing essential duties have been stuck.

All true and older Americans do get sicker with CV and then get into the hospital and then more die. Those are the statistics AND science. When the hospitals are clogged then all age groups get less or sometimes denied care. It just makes sense to do the older population 1st after hospital workers. And just check that England did it that way and have had the world's biggest decrease in positive cases. England PROVES what I have been saying as opposed to just someone's individual opinion.