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About NAMI | NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness
I have communicated in various ways with some of the NAMI groups over the past few decades. |
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Discussing suicide prevention and death and dying as a subject is important, as it takes an issue we all ultimately deal with out of the ‘do not talk about’ closet. This is what Swiss-born psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler-Ross did in the late 1960s when she observed the discomfort her American fellow physicians felt, seeing a death as a failure on their part to be hidden rather than accepting dying and death as an integral part of ALL our lives. She got permission to interview dying patients and discovered—no surprise—how much they welcomed the chance to talk about their own feelings and fears. From this experience came her uniquely written (a story in itself…) first book, On Death and Dying—well worth the read. However, discussing this as an important subject is not the same as publicly speculating about suicide of a complete stranger, which is just plain inappropriate. OP, in your later responses in this thread, you made it clear that with the input of others (some of which from your description sound off the wall…), you recognize, as you put it, that you were ‘wrong.’ So you’ve learned something—as we all have the opportunity to do—and it’s time to move on. |
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How hypocritical, the theme of the thread was the cause of death and speculations of heart attack, covid, AAA, etc. were allowed but that shameful word “suicide” is not to be mentioned. Such dark ages thinking for an insidious disease. |
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I agree, I would hope family members would appreciate a compassionate discussion, but, there will always be someone that doesn't. So, do we just never publicly talk about it? I think we have to change.
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UK and teachers. We often reach to support our narrative. As far as teachers, sadly there are too few great ones. Too many do not belong in the profession and are hanging in to collect the great benefits package. Suicide. Why is it such a difficult subject. My view is because religion says you are damned if you take your life. Interesting conflicts the first amendment to the constitution outlaws a state (national) religion. If, I recall it is the 13th that outlaws slavery. There is no shortage of legal conflicts but if you eliminate a state religion and you are not a slave to the state, your life is your life, you have the right to end it. Euthanasia-what we put HUMANS through, if they were a dog you would go to jail for what we do as normal practice. |
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And the really sad thing is when someone has not made sure their wishes are known ahead of time and a family member steps in making decisions the patient would not have wanted. I am an atheist but grew up a Southern Baptist, and it always seemed so strange to me that they (Southern Baptists) fight so hard to not die, while all the time claiming to be looking forward to an eternity in perfect heaven. Seems to me, I would want to move on and get into my new internal digs. But, if that makes them happy, that is fine with me. They can fight to live in agony all they want to, I just don't want them interfering with my decisions to end my life when I want to end it. |
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I completely agree, as I said in my earlier post—as an important subject in itself, not as speculation about a complete stranger—and especially when there is no hint of it in the news report/obituary. Otherwise it can come off sounding like gossip (which appears NOT to have be the intention of the OP).
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