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drugs working
Don't believe this
no science is behind this information. Quote:
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[QUOTE=GoodLife;1733955]
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Giving out ANY drug on a request basis is plain wrong and irresponsible, There are about 90 drugs now being tested, and you certainly can post about it, but making claims on any forum based on no medical knowledge at all. That will cost lives. We are living in a society that is scared, and, to me, that is preying on their fears. Having factual information given to us is the ONLY safe way to promulgate drug information. EVERYONE is hoping for something......I recall the anxious waiting on the swine flu vaccine and the very long lines to get the shot. We all can and should hope, but broadcasting little ancedotes and ignoring real medicine is wrong ant potentially fatal. |
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I was sharing warnings received from DOCTORS. Medicating based on internet posts is wrong.....of that, I am certain. NOT MISINFORMATION, but medicating based on posts surely is misinformation. There are almost 100 different drugs currently being tested, including plaquenil, to fight this virus. Praying for a breakthrough is a good thing.....making a rash decision based on a post on this or any forum is not responsible. Many, not me at this point, are now having trouble getting this drug because of the rush to have a doctor write a prescription and the drug is now on the shortage list. I will suggst my doctor consult with you on next visit |
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Of the 26 patients given hydroxychl 6 were excluded from the results. 3 because they ended up transferred to the ICU thus were kicked out of the study. A fourth because that patient died. And two dropped out of the study. The control patients were mostly recruited in other hospitals in other cities seemingly. So hardly an ideal control group. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...135v1.full.pdf So when you read some doctor who apparently wrote a letter to a Fox channel personality claiming that 350 of 350 of his patients were cured.. Firstly it is unlikely any single doctor has 350 Covid positive patients, but not impossible. Secondly if in this study of non-ICU patients 4 of the initial 26 given treatment either died or went to the ICU it is exceedingly unlikely that 0 of 350 would fail. Again to be fair, the published French study was of hydroxychl only on most patients. Only 6 of the 20 reports patients were given zith based on "clinical judgment" which was to prevent "bacterial superinfection". So apparently in only 6 patients was concern about future bacterial superinfection a concern. You can read the results in this NOT peer reviewed paper. It likely is now undergoing peer review but has not been published as a peer reviewed study. The results are tantalizing and do suggest benefit of Hydroxychloroquine by itself, and greater benefit with the addition of Zithromax. Only 6 people got the combination. Of the patients in the study only about a third had a diagnosis of bronchitis or pneumonia. 2 treated patients were asymptomatic [it is unclear why they were even swabbed at entry. Perhaps all patients being admitted to that hospital were swabbed regardless of clinical history.] So of the 20 reported treated patients, 14 had nose, throat, or low grade fever only. Both the WHO and multiple clinical centers are actively studying this combination as well as several different antiviral products. I am hopeful that some individual or combination will be successful. But claims that proof has been established is wrong. As for the comment that NY Gov Cuomo "approved" of the treatment.. Governors do not have the authority, nor do Presidents, to give medical approval for medical treatments. That is the role of the FDA. Keep in mind that doctors have always given medications beyond what the FDA has formally approved as a usage guideline. The CDC collects data and makes evidence based recommendations. Those recommendations may include use of medications outside the listed indications on the package insert. A personal opinion about some of the comments about how dangerous hydroxychloroquine is.. It is very safe. The long term use of the medication rarely causes retinal problems. Problems are seen mostly in patients who take it for more than five years and more likely with higher doses. The risk of toxic retinopathy in patients on long-term hydroxychloroquine therapy. - PubMed - NCBI I cannot find a case of eye complications from a short term use of the drug. Not saying it doesn't exist but no review I read included any short term use patients. The FDA does not even recommend eye exams other than a baseline exam until the patient has been on hydroxychloroquine for 5 years unless they have other risk factors. From the package insert: Quote:
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Bahrain Confirmed: 457 Deaths: 4 Recovered: 204 Active: 249 The article you linked does have a serious misstatement of fact Quote:
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500mg 1x daily Azithromycin -- I had to take this for Lyme Disease in CT.
Diarrhea... Awful. Thanks but I'll pass. |
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Spoke with my sister-in-law who is a doctor and she confirmed that using Hydroxycloroquine with Azithromyacin will help those infected with Covid19 recover.
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Did you know gullible is not in the dictionary?
OBB, love your sensible, thoughtful posts. You should have a blog if you don’t already.
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Plan for the worse, hope for the best.
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Which only confirms that doctors don't have the information needed and therefore disagree on effectiveness. Appears a lot of people are reaching to grab onto anything that has the potential to make life better. As stated prior, this will deprive those that really have a need the drugs they need.
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Fear makes you desperate
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Coronavirus is serious, but this is not time to panic. Wash,/ Sanitise your hands, avoid close conract with others, be smart and you have a 99.99% chance of being fine. Go off the deep end and gargle with Draino and your odds drop quickly. |
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I was just about to gargle Draino, along with the half pint of bleach that my local refuse collector recommended as a sure fire way to ward off the virus. I will just stick to drinking Lysol in future. |
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Originally Posted by coachkandsportsguy View Post
a ny doctor shared his results using hydroxycloroquine chloroquine/azithromycin 200mg 2x daily hydroxy chloroquine 500mg 1x daily azithromycin 220mg 1x daily zinc sulfate 350 patients • breathing restored 3-4 hours • zero deaths • zero intubations so there are more firsthand reports coming out of nyc, the possibility of returning to normal sooner than later is still dependent upon social distancing to break the infection rate. However, stay vigilant until the pandemic is over Sorry but this information is not correct. Spoke with my son-in-law who is a doctor. There is no cure, this combo has only been shown to improve symptons in mild cases, it does NOT prevent intubations or death. Right now an NYC medical resident who got the combo treatment is not doing well in the ICU. Even the original French study which was done poorly still had intubations & death in that combo medicaton group. Stop putting out unsubstaniated, false information. |
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