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coffeebean 10-24-2022 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2150546)
COVID causes significantly higher risk of heart disease than the vaccines. More and more studies like this are being published

Heart-disease risk soars after COVID — even with a mild case

Heart-disease risk soars after COVID — even with a mild case

Massive study shows a long-term, substantial rise in risk of cardiovascular disease, including heart attack and stroke, after a SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Google COVID stroke for more info.

Which variant is the culprit for the higher incidence of heart disease? Does the Omicron variant create that risk?

coffeebean 10-24-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2150555)
And now there is a new wave of covid, not to mention the gain of function we did in Massachusetts where a new covid strain with 80% fatality was created. Not exactly sure why such a thing was created, but Fauci would have stopped it if it was bad for us. With all of this happening, fewer and fewer people are wearing masks these days. This site likes to talk about dogs, well some of them are smarter than people. I saw one wearing a mask yesterday by LSL (it could have been a muzzle but in these times, it was probably a mask). Some here could learn a thing or two from our four legged friends. And speaking of mice, we owe those four brave mice that Pfizer tested the vaccine on a debt of gratitude. Having brought up the topic of people under 50, how selfish are they. I did not work hard all my life so I could get a case of covid from some selfish millennial who refuses to stay home and isolate, not work and isolate. These years are mine, I worked for them. If we need to pay people another 7,200 to stay home and not earn a living for another two years so we can flatten the curve, then we should do it. It adds up to a couple of fewer tanks to Ukraine. We seniors worked hard all of our lives so we can enjoy this time. It is OUR time, and I will NOT share it with some inconsiderate olgre. Talk about selfish.

A new Covid strain with 80% fatality???? Where on earth did you hear about this?????

jimjamuser 10-24-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2150625)
Do you think COVID vaccinations should be mandated for children?

Some young children HAVE DIED from Covid and likely many older people have died from contact with the young ones. It is difficult to say how many older people died that way. I, personally believe that the US eradicated polio (except due recently to anti-vaxxers) The Polio vaccine (and others) was mandated years ago (in an era of belief in science). Today we have nay-sayers about everything. And many who are taking the US back to a place 40 years ago. I still believe in science. And if I were the decider-in-chief for the US, I would get a panel of medical scientists to hash it out and if they wanted a mandate, I would be for it. Today the scales of justice (lady justice) are tipped off level by the weight of propagandists both onshore and offshore. Today we need to straighten out society in order to straighten out medical practice. Hope that answers the question. I tried my best.

coffeebean 10-24-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2150558)
Got vax’d and first booster. No more boosters for me, my doctor is questioning them as well.

I would find a new doctor if it were me.

PugMom 10-24-2022 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2150639)
Which variant is the culprit for the higher incidence of heart disease? Does the Omicron variant create that risk?

there was a bait & switch somewhere. the 1st one approved, if memory serves, was Pfizer-BioNTech, then switched names to Comirnaty, & this is where my suspicions arose because they never said why, & Comirnaty was not approved by the FDA. maybe you might know, because your the covid expert here (an affectionate term.) there's this radio dr, ronald hoffman, & he says: i will quote him "While there’s no credible evidence that the COVID-19 vaccine increases the risk of heart attack, it can lead to heart inflammation in some people. .' i think the problem may be the info is so new, there's just not enough available

Aces4 10-24-2022 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2150642)
Some young children HAVE DIED from Covid and likely many older people have died from contact with the young ones. It is difficult to say how many older people died that way. I, personally believe that the US eradicated polio (except due recently to anti-vaxxers) The Polio vaccine (and others) was mandated years ago (in an era of belief in science). Today we have nay-sayers about everything. And many who are taking the US back to a place 40 years ago. I still believe in science. And if I were the decider-in-chief for the US, I would get a panel of medical scientists to hash it out and if they wanted a mandate, I would be for it. Today the scales of justice (lady justice) are tipped off level by the weight of propagandists both onshore and offshore. Today we need to straighten out society in order to straighten out medical practice. Hope that answers the question. I tried my best.

That’s not an accurate assessment. Polio is a virus with a one and done series of vaccinations and the other is influenza for which vaccinations never stop. Children have a wonderful immunity to the virus with the exception of the compromised child or the few that were unable to overcome COVID. This is not based on propaganda or political but I believe this is a pharma grab for more money. Why mess with the healthy immune systems of the majority of children?

coffeebean 10-24-2022 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2150649)
there was a bait & switch somewhere. the 1st one approved, if memory serves, was Pfizer-BioNTech, then switched names to Comirnaty, & this is where my suspicions arose because they never said why, & Comirnaty was not approved by the FDA. maybe you might know, because your the covid expert here (an affectionate term.) there's this radio dr, ronald hoffman, & he says: i will quote him "While there’s no credible evidence that the COVID-19 vaccine increases the risk of heart attack, it can lead to heart inflammation in some people. .' i think the problem may be the info is so new, there's just not enough available

Me? Covid expert? Not on your tintype..

Love2Swim 10-25-2022 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2150642)
Some young children HAVE DIED from Covid and likely many older people have died from contact with the young ones. It is difficult to say how many older people died that way. I, personally believe that the US eradicated polio (except due recently to anti-vaxxers) The Polio vaccine (and others) was mandated years ago (in an era of belief in science). Today we have nay-sayers about everything. And many who are taking the US back to a place 40 years ago. I still believe in science. And if I were the decider-in-chief for the US, I would get a panel of medical scientists to hash it out and if they wanted a mandate, I would be for it. Today the scales of justice (lady justice) are tipped off level by the weight of propagandists both onshore and offshore. Today we need to straighten out society in order to straighten out medical practice. Hope that answers the question. I tried my best.

Nailed it. Thanks for posting some common sense logic.

mikempp 10-25-2022 04:47 AM

My wife's once healthy 23 year old nephew needs 4 heart valves repaired, no thanks.

CoachKandSportsguy 10-25-2022 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2139552)
And we all know that doctors are NEVER wrong.

True, BUT, professionals are wrong substantially LESS often than amateurs.

We don’t live in a black and white world, but a probabilistic world, where the human mind has biases towards survival and has trouble with small numbers.

Confirmation bias is a bitch!

Altavia 10-25-2022 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mikempp (Post 2150710)
My wife's once healthy 23 year old nephew needs 4 heart valves repaired, no thanks.

For every one of those, nine end up with heart disease after catching COVID.

There now are traditional (non MRNA) vaccines available if concerned.

chrissy2231 10-25-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2150113)
Basically, it is an avoidance of DEATH.

I know someone who had Covid 3 times and all vaccs. Natural immunity is what is necessary to avoid Covid & Flu. I've never had any shot and haven't had the Flu since I was 21. My acting group have all had Covid. I've been with them and do not get it. I use nasal irrigation, and that may be the key.

chrissy2231 10-25-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2150642)
Some young children HAVE DIED from Covid and likely many older people have died from contact with the young ones. It is difficult to say how many older people died that way. I, personally believe that the US eradicated polio (except due recently to anti-vaxxers) The Polio vaccine (and others) was mandated years ago (in an era of belief in science). Today we have nay-sayers about everything. And many who are taking the US back to a place 40 years ago. I still believe in science. And if I were the decider-in-chief for the US, I would get a panel of medical scientists to hash it out and if they wanted a mandate, I would be for it. Today the scales of justice (lady justice) are tipped off level by the weight of propagandists both onshore and offshore. Today we need to straighten out society in order to straighten out medical practice. Hope that answers the question. I tried my best.

I know someone who had Covid 3 times and all vaccs. Natural immunity is what is necessary to avoid Covid & Flu. I've never had any shot and haven't had the Flu since I was 21. My acting group have all had Covid. I've been with them and do not get it. I use nasal irrigation, and that may be the key.

Two Bills 10-25-2022 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mikempp (Post 2150710)
My wife's once healthy 23 year old nephew needs 4 heart valves repaired, no thanks.

Sounds more like a congenital defect, or a failure over a longer period.
Can't see it as a short term reaction to a Covid vaccination.

Whitley 10-25-2022 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2150641)
A new Covid strain with 80% fatality???? Where on earth did you hear about this?????



New Covid strain with 80% death rate claimed to be developed by Boston University researchers


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