[Challenger]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Studies show 68.4% of UFOs that land on golf courses carry Covid-19 as well

"Chicken Little " your model is flawed only 37per cent of the Sky is falling. Fake news

[blueash]

Researchers are testing wastewater, pre-treatment, to try to estimate the prevalence of Covid in the community. Similar testing was done in Holland.
Importantly these tested for pieces of Covid RNA not for intact infectious whole viruses.

This is not a new idea.

Testing wastewater can be useful to detect the presence of a virus in the community before clinical cases might be found. Similarly when wastewater becomes negative it is likely the virus is no longer circulating.

This again, does not document that wastewater is infectious even before treatment, nor whether the treatment of wastewater would kill intact Covid if it were present.

So while golfing eagle may be rolling on the ground laughing about whether there might be a risk of using wastewater on the golf course, others are not laughing.

Two researchers, Haizhou Liu, an associate professor of chemical and environmental engineering at the University of California, Riverside; and Professor Vincenzo Naddeo, director of the Sanitary Environmental Engineering Division at the University of Salerno, have called for more testing to determine whether water treatment methods are effective in killing SARS-CoV-19 and coronaviruses in general.

An article meant to reassure that there is no risk has this:

So far, this virus does not appear to survive well in the environment and can be eliminated effectively by water treatment, especially chlorination, and would pose a minimal risk through drinking water.

Note that the reassurance is for drinking water that has been chlorinated. Drinking water is held to a much higher requirement than irrigation water. That's why there is a warning sign at each golf course that the water is not potable [not safe for drinking].

I do not know what method is used here to treat grey water, nor whether chlorine is specifically used at a level adequate to be viricidal.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Herbflosdorf

The villages waste water treatment plants discharge their effluent to storage ponds on our golf courses and then re-use that water via spray irrigation. Question: Are the corona viruses surviving the treatment and disinfection processes and then being distributed via aerosol spray irrigation? The Villages should be testing all effluent for Corona Virus before any further spray irrigation.

Interesting post of only 4 times. The barber who is working out of his home, said all the water used on the golf courses is coming from the area hospitals, hoping to drum up more business from local golfers opcorn

[GoodLife]

So while golfing eagle may be rolling on the ground laughing about whether there might be a risk of using wastewater on the golf course, others are not laughing.

Now that is funny!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by CWGUY

Now you've done it...... people will be hoarding tin foil to make hats.

Looks like there are plenty of people already wearing their tin foil hats

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by blueash

Researchers are testing wastewater, pre-treatment, to try to estimate the prevalence of Covid in the community. Similar testing was done in Holland.
Importantly these tested for pieces of Covid RNA not for intact infectious whole viruses.

This is not a new idea.

Testing wastewater can be useful to detect the presence of a virus in the community before clinical cases might be found. Similarly when wastewater becomes negative it is likely the virus is no longer circulating.

This again, does not document that wastewater is infectious even before treatment, nor whether the treatment of wastewater would kill intact Covid if it were present.

So while golfing eagle may be rolling on the ground laughing about whether there might be a risk of using wastewater on the golf course, others are not laughing.



An article meant to reassure that there is no risk has this:



Note that the reassurance is for drinking water that has been chlorinated. Drinking water is held to a much higher requirement than irrigation water. That's why there is a warning sign at each golf course that the water is not potable [not safe for drinking].

I do not know what method is used here to treat grey water, nor whether chlorine is specifically used at a level adequate to be viricidal.

And if I see people taking a shower in their lawn sprinklers, I'll be more serious, well just a little more. Until then, the aluminum foil is in aisle 7.

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by Herbflosdorf

The villages waste water treatment plants discharge their effluent to storage ponds on our golf courses and then re-use that water via spray irrigation. Question: Are the corona viruses surviving the treatment and disinfection processes and then being distributed via aerosol spray irrigation? The Villages should be testing all effluent for Corona Virus before any further spray irrigation.

If you’re concerned, simple solution is to stay off the golf courses. Conundrum solved

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by DianeM

If you’re concerned, simple solution is to stay off the golf courses. Conundrum solved

Not so easy. For those "concerned", the lawn sprinklers south of 466 use the same water

[DianeM]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Not so easy. For those "concerned", the lawn sprinklers south of 466 use the same water

I’m not concerned. I don’t see little green molecules in the water. I think it’s just fine.

[rustyp]

If you are interested sign up for The Villages Residents Academy and part of the course is a trip to the sewer treatment plant. I'm assuming this is still part of the course along with another day trip to a fire hall.They show how they decontaminate the waste water step by step and explain how they pump the reclaimed water into the retention ponds. They were very proud of the high standard of the end product. They explained the biggest issue about drinking it would be it is pumped into open retention ponds which exposes the water to animal affluent and algaes.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by blueash

Researchers are testing wastewater, pre-treatment, to try to estimate the prevalence of Covid in the community. Similar testing was done in Holland.
Importantly these tested for pieces of Covid RNA not for intact infectious whole viruses.

This is not a new idea.

Testing wastewater can be useful to detect the presence of a virus in the community before clinical cases might be found. Similarly when wastewater becomes negative it is likely the virus is no longer circulating.

This again, does not document that wastewater is infectious even before treatment, nor whether the treatment of wastewater would kill intact Covid if it were present.

So while golfing eagle may be rolling on the ground laughing about whether there might be a risk of using wastewater on the golf course, others are not laughing.



An article meant to reassure that there is no risk has this:



Note that the reassurance is for drinking water that has been chlorinated. Drinking water is held to a much higher requirement than irrigation water. That's why there is a warning sign at each golf course that the water is not potable [not safe for drinking].

I do not know what method is used here to treat grey water, nor whether chlorine is specifically used at a level adequate to be viricidal.

Go to the link I posted in #14. Further there a link there for the standards being met.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by DonH57

Stop laughing. You got me doing it now !:

I heard that 68.9% of all golfer’s have experienced UFO’s. FOUR!

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Go to the link I posted in #14. Further there a link there for the standards being met.

Several clicks further gets me to
62-600.440 : Disinfection Requirements - Florida Administrative Rules, Law, Code, Register - FAC, FAR, eRulemaking

I downloaded the "RULE"

where several alternative methods of wastewater treatment are allowed. All are considered acceptable if they kill almost all of the coliforms such as E coli. As to whether killing almost all coliforms automatically means that the treatment also kills Covid is above my pay grade and I can't find the answer online.

[blueash]

A new report on COVID in wastewater.

Time course quantitative detection of SARS-CoV-2 in Parisian wastewaters correlates with COVID-19 confirmed cases | medRxiv

From Paris France. The researchers tested untreated and treated wastewater from 3 major treatment plants from early March to early April. They wanted to see if testing wastewater could help define the presence of the disease in the community
23 of 23 untreated samples were positive by quantitative PCR testing. This testing gives a measure of how much viral material is present, not just yes/no. This is raw sewage.

6 of 8 treated samples were positive. The treated samples showed a 100 times reduction in viral load.

The article does not indicate the methodology of treatment used in Paris.

[zonerboy]

If viruses survived The Villages wastewater treatment and were present in irrigation water used in yards and on golf courses, I don’t think we’d have to worry about Covid-19. We would all be dead from HIV or from one of the many forms of viral hepatitis or from viral encephalitis, etc.