[inthemindofanurse]

It absolutely amazes me the way some people behave. *Begin rant -Those of you that are infuriated about the TVH insurance change should educate yourselves a bit before showing your rear. Hopefully you have kept your letters about how you were grandfathered in for the rest of the existence that TVH has their doors open! Come on folks, be realistic. At the time of that letter there was no plan to go to only UHC MA. You were not conned. You were not lied to. You were not deceived. You were told that for the time being you would be taken care of. Things change. As far as TVH being money hungry devils....well, just an FYI they lose millions, yes plural, of dollars a year by accepting the other insurance carriers. Why, do you ask? Because in order to provide 30 minute appointments, in order to ensure that if you are in the hospital one of the TVH doctors see you, in order to ensure that there are 30 + open appointments available for call ins, in order to ensure that all of your care is coordinated through your primary, in order to ensure that you are taken care of and pampered the way you are-INSURANCE HAS TO PAY FOR IT!! BCBS said heck no, Cigna said not a chance, Humana wasn't biting, Aetna said no thanks. United Health Care said yes. These other insurance plans WILL NOT pay for these things! Please explain how TVH can continue to provide a 30 min appointment and only get paid for 12 minutes of it?! Will you accept being told they no longer offer 30 min appts because your ins will only pay for 10? No, you won't. Will you accept waiting 2 hours for your 10 min appt because the office had to schedule 30 patients for that doctor just to make the money to keep the doors open? Doubt it. At the end of the day you are just being whiney brats. TVH has not changed. They are still the best patient centered medical office in the state of Florida. They want nothing more than to continue to be the best and treat YOU, yes YOU the best. But open your eyes and realize that this kind of care has to be paid for. Like I said, MILLIONS of dollars lost. MILLIONS of dollars in the red! No, it's not so your doctor can drive home in a Mercedes. No, it's not so the medical director can get a yacht. No, it's not so the CEO can go skiing in the Swiss Alps. The whole world can't go into poverty so you can continue to sit pretty on your pedestal getting your butt powdered! - *end rant

[rhood]

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[inthemindofanurse]

Oh and P.S. it's not only 1 plan. There are 5. One is Medicare AARP Complete. And they also are keeping Tricare

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[villagetinker]

There is a LOT of misinformation being spread (probably on both sides), but I spent almost an hour at a UHC healthcare office getting answers to my 23 or questions. Came out with a much better understanding of what I may or may NOT be giving up by dropping supplemental and going advantage. Next step is to go over this with SHINE, then wait until Oct 1 for the revised books.
BTW, there are THREE (3) insurance plans accepted by TVHS (not including the commercial/government plans), HMO1. HMO2, and PPO, in increasing monthly costs as listed. I have the three books and am just started comparing the plans to the supplemental we currently have.
There is coverage when you travel for emergency care, some coverage if you have a health problem (urgent care) while you are out of network. For those of you that are dual residence, there is the Passport system for 37 states (you need to check to see if you are covered).
While I do not like the way this was handled by TVHS, there are pluses and minuses on both sides. ALL of us need to actually ask the questions that are important to us as individuals, and determine which plan is best. Be very careful of generalizations, as what works very for one may be a disaster for another.
Hope this helps.

[Villager Joyce]

Originally Posted by inthemindofanurse

It absolutely amazes me the way some people behave. *Begin rant -Those of you that are infuriated about the TVH insurance change should educate yourselves a bit before showing your rear. Hopefully you have kept your letters about how you were grandfathered in for the rest of the existence that TVH has their doors open! Come on folks, be realistic. At the time of that letter there was no plan to go to only UHC MA. You were not conned. You were not lied to. You were not deceived. You were told that for the time being you would be taken care of. Things change. As far as TVH being money hungry devils....well, just an FYI they lose millions, yes plural, of dollars a year by accepting the other insurance carriers. Why, do you ask? Because in order to provide 30 minute appointments, in order to ensure that if you are in the hospital one of the TVH doctors see you, in order to ensure that there are 30 + open appointments available for call ins, in order to ensure that all of your care is coordinated through your primary, in order to ensure that you are taken care of and pampered the way you are-INSURANCE HAS TO PAY FOR IT!! BCBS said heck no, Cigna said not a chance, Humana wasn't biting, Aetna said no thanks. United Health Care said yes. These other insurance plans WILL NOT pay for these things! Please explain how TVH can continue to provide a 30 min appointment and only get paid for 12 minutes of it?! Will you accept being told they no longer offer 30 min appts because your ins will only pay for 10? No, you won't. Will you accept waiting 2 hours for your 10 min appt because the office had to schedule 30 patients for that doctor just to make the money to keep the doors open? Doubt it. At the end of the day you are just being whiney brats. TVH has not changed. They are still the best patient centered medical office in the state of Florida. They want nothing more than to continue to be the best and treat YOU, yes YOU the best. But open your eyes and realize that this kind of care has to be paid for. Like I said, MILLIONS of dollars lost. MILLIONS of dollars in the red! No, it's not so your doctor can drive home in a Mercedes. No, it's not so the medical director can get a yacht. No, it's not so the CEO can go skiing in the Swiss Alps. The whole world can't go into poverty so you can continue to sit pretty on your pedestal getting your butt powdered! - *end rant

Speaking of rants! You feel better now? You sure told us.

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by inthemindofanurse

It absolutely amazes me the way some people behave. *Begin rant -Those of you that are infuriated about the TVH insurance change should educate yourselves a bit before showing your rear. Hopefully you have kept your letters about how you were grandfathered in for the rest of the existence that TVH has their doors open! Come on folks, be realistic. At the time of that letter there was no plan to go to only UHC MA. You were not conned. You were not lied to. You were not deceived. You were told that for the time being you would be taken care of. Things change. As far as TVH being money hungry devils....well, just an FYI they lose millions, yes plural, of dollars a year by accepting the other insurance carriers. Why, do you ask? Because in order to provide 30 minute appointments, in order to ensure that if you are in the hospital one of the TVH doctors see you, in order to ensure that there are 30 + open appointments available for call ins, in order to ensure that all of your care is coordinated through your primary, in order to ensure that you are taken care of and pampered the way you are-INSURANCE HAS TO PAY FOR IT!! BCBS said heck no, Cigna said not a chance, Humana wasn't biting, Aetna said no thanks. United Health Care said yes. These other insurance plans WILL NOT pay for these things! Please explain how TVH can continue to provide a 30 min appointment and only get paid for 12 minutes of it?! Will you accept being told they no longer offer 30 min appts because your ins will only pay for 10? No, you won't. Will you accept waiting 2 hours for your 10 min appt because the office had to schedule 30 patients for that doctor just to make the money to keep the doors open? Doubt it. At the end of the day you are just being whiney brats. TVH has not changed. They are still the best patient centered medical office in the state of Florida. They want nothing more than to continue to be the best and treat YOU, yes YOU the best. But open your eyes and realize that this kind of care has to be paid for. Like I said, MILLIONS of dollars lost. MILLIONS of dollars in the red! No, it's not so your doctor can drive home in a Mercedes. No, it's not so the medical director can get a yacht. No, it's not so the CEO can go skiing in the Swiss Alps. The whole world can't go into poverty so you can continue to sit pretty on your pedestal getting your butt powdered! - *end rant

The Villages' trollies for the past three years took visitors to new home areas to show the neighborhoods and types of homes available. The Trollies then went to one of the TVH centers to show the health care centers that were available to Village residents. They used TVH as a marketing tool to sell their houses. Many people bought here glad to know that quality and convenient healthcare would be available. It sounds like your rant is another example of a person who is not affected by this major change and has tired of the anger and disappointment of his fellow Villagers.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

The Villages' trollies for the past three years took visitors to new home areas to show the neighborhoods and types of homes available. The Trollies then went to one of the TVH centers to show the health care centers that were available to Village residents. They used TVH as a marketing tool to sell their houses. Many people bought here glad to know that quality and convenient healthcare would be available. It sounds like your rant is another example of a person who is not affected by this major change and has tired of the anger and disappointment of his fellow Villagers.

It is still available for anyone who has the accepted insurance. If you CHOOSE to have a different insurance provider, that is YOUR call.

Doctors all across this great land change accepted insurances periodically.

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

It is still available for anyone who has the accepted insurance. If you CHOOSE to have a different insurance provider, that is YOUR call.

Doctors all across this great land change accepted insurances periodically.

Do "doctors all across this great land" change their accepted insurances to only one plan? Can you give us other examples of other private physician groups that have rejected all other Medicare plans except one plan? United Health Care Advantage plan is the only plan TVH will accept for people turning 65 after January 1, 2017.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

The Villages' trollies for the past three years took visitors to new home areas to show the neighborhoods and types of homes available. The Trollies then went to one of the TVH centers to show the health care centers that were available to Village residents. They used TVH as a marketing tool to sell their houses. Many people bought here glad to know that quality and convenient healthcare would be available. It sounds like your rant is another example of a person who is not affected by this major change and has tired of the anger and disappointment of his fellow Villagers.

Actually, I think her "rant" was an excellent factual counterbalance to the primarily emotional response that has been dominating the threads on this subject. As rants go, I'll give it a 9.8/10

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Happydaz

Do "doctors all across this great land" change their accepted insurances to only one plan? Can you give us other examples of other private physician groups that have rejected all other Medicare plans except one plan? United Health Care Advantage plan is the only plan TVH will accept for people turning 65 after January 1, 2017.

If they were offered a huge bundle of cash to do so, they might.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Villager Joyce

Speaking of rants! You feel better now? You sure told us.

Some needed to be told.

[Avista]

Originally Posted by inthemindofanurse

It absolutely amazes me the way some people behave. *Begin rant -Those of you that are infuriated about the TVH insurance change should educate yourselves a bit before showing your rear. Hopefully you have kept your letters about how you were grandfathered in for the rest of the existence that TVH has their doors open! Come on folks, be realistic. At the time of that letter there was no plan to go to only UHC MA. You were not conned. You were not lied to. You were not deceived. You were told that for the time being you would be taken care of. Things change. As far as TVH being money hungry devils....well, just an FYI they lose millions, yes plural, of dollars a year by accepting the other insurance carriers. Why, do you ask? Because in order to provide 30 minute appointments, in order to ensure that if you are in the hospital one of the TVH doctors see you, in order to ensure that there are 30 + open appointments available for call ins, in order to ensure that all of your care is coordinated through your primary, in order to ensure that you are taken care of and pampered the way you are-INSURANCE HAS TO PAY FOR IT!! BCBS said heck no, Cigna said not a chance, Humana wasn't biting, Aetna said no thanks. United Health Care said yes. These other insurance plans WILL NOT pay for these things! Please explain how TVH can continue to provide a 30 min appointment and only get paid for 12 minutes of it?! Will you accept being told they no longer offer 30 min appts because your ins will only pay for 10? No, you won't. Will you accept waiting 2 hours for your 10 min appt because the office had to schedule 30 patients for that doctor just to make the money to keep the doors open? Doubt it. At the end of the day you are just being whiney brats. TVH has not changed. They are still the best patient centered medical office in the state of Florida. They want nothing more than to continue to be the best and treat YOU, yes YOU the best. But open your eyes and realize that this kind of care has to be paid for. Like I said, MILLIONS of dollars lost. MILLIONS of dollars in the red! No, it's not so your doctor can drive home in a Mercedes. No, it's not so the medical director can get a yacht. No, it's not so the CEO can go skiing in the Swiss Alps. The whole world can't go into poverty so you can continue to sit pretty on your pedestal getting your butt powdered! - *end rant

Thank you for posting!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Actually, I think her "rant" was an excellent factual counterbalance to the primarily emotional response that has been dominating the threads on this subject. As rants go, I'll give it a 9.8/10

This time, I agree with you.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

This time, I agree with you.

OMG, is this February 30th???