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Old 03-19-2016, 03:51 PM
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There will always be varying skill levels in all of the athletic venues within The Villages that have hours posted for open play.I have been here for 10 years and have played open Pickleball for 9 1/2 years. After the basic skills and rules were absorbed, I searched out courts that would be compatible with my level. As my skills increased over the years I continued to look for courts that would be skill compatible. My point is that I believe it is the responsibility of the person or persons who wants to insert themselves into an open play activity, to do a little research and find a venue that fits their skill level. With that said there will always be some that just show up and ask to play in a an activity beyond their skill level. They should realize this inequity reasonably soon and hopefully will move on to a compatible location elsewhere, which in TV they are numerous. If they don't there is nothing wrong with politltely suggesting there are other locations for their level of play. Beyond this the situation can deteriorate, which I have experienced, where the group just refuses to play with that person. At this point majority rules and the person(s) usually get the hint and move on. Seems in most cases Villages can politely resolve these situations, but with 110,000 + there will always be some that just don't care to.

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Old 03-19-2016, 04:12 PM
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According to the written rules on page 3 of the Recreation News, Open Play is for those of you who would prefer to play on your own. However, according to the recreation department via a couple of lengthy phone calls, if you are playing during OPEN PLAY and someone else wants to play with you, you MUST let them play in the next game regardless of their level of play. I personally believe this contradicts the written description of open play. My point is this: My friends and I organized a water volleyball game to play on our own days in advance. We were the only ones in the pool when a couple walked in and wanted to insert themselves into our group which was already full. We indicated this was open play time and we here to play on our own. They insisted that they had taken a water volleyball class and went on and on about how we were required to let them play. This would mean that some of us would have to sit out. Per our interpretation of the written description of open play we thought they were wrong and continued our play. I personally canít imagine trying to force myself on someone enjoying themselves in a private game, but they were so intent on interrupting what was obviously friends having a good time that they went crying to the facilities manager who sent her people out and told us we had to let them play. We only had 20 minutes left anyway so we decided to leave which left the courts completely empty and no one got to enjoy the facilities. Based on the recreation department's verbal rules, if two couples are the only people playing pickleball, or you and your wife are playing shuffleboard or whatever sport, and a person walks up and says I would like to play in the next game, one of you is required to sit out and let this person play regardless of their level of play. I am not really concerned about it happening again because I believe very few people would insist on forcing themselves on a few friends having a good time. In all the years my friends and I have been using open play time for various activities this was a first. Has anyone else had a similar experience?
Open play does not mean that your group can monopolize a court and exclude others that have come to play--especially if they don't have enough people to start their own game. The pickleball players that I know don't monopolized open play courts and rotate in other players even though they have to sit out a game. IMHO it was not right to exclude the two people from rotating in. It was Open play and not a time that you reserved through the Rec Dept. When you reserve a time then you have the right to exclude others who want to join your group and play.
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Open play does not mean that your group can monopolize a court and exclude others that have come to play--especially if they don't have enough people to start their own game. The pickleball players that I know don't monopolized open play courts and rotate in other players even though they have to sit out a game. IMHO it was not right to exclude the two people from rotating in. It was Open play and not a time that you reserved through the Rec Dept. When you reserve a time then you have the right to exclude others who want to join your group and play.
That pretty much sums up how open play works, at least for pickleball.

But in defense of the OP...page 3 of the rec news does say just what the OP claimed, and the wording is possibly a bit open for interpretation: "...No courts are reserved, but are available on a first-come-first-served basis". I can see how this could be interpreted as...we have the court because we were first here. Procedures for open play seem well established and accepted for pickleball. But the definition in the Rec News has some ambiguity in my opinion.

First off, the definition of "open play" is under a paragraph labeled "Categories of Recreation Activities", which is under the main heading "Recreation Pool Guidelines". Yet the definition speaks of "courts". Why if it's under the pool guidelines section?

Sounds like some clarification is in order, at least for pool users.

EDIT: After reading through all the "Categories of Recreational Activities", it's obvious the section applies to all rec activities, not just those associated with a pool. That makes for confusion and possible conflict right off the bat. In addition, the "Open Play" definition is a bit ambiguous and does not exactly (or at least clearly) define open play as implemented in pickleball.

Again...open play in pickleball works well and should be maintained as is. It's just not clear that it conforms to the definition of open play in the Rec News.

(Whew! I ran on and repeated myself more than I intended too...sorry. )

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There will always be varying skill levels in all of the athletic venues within The Villages that have hours posted for open play.I have been here for 10 years and have played open Pickleball for 9 1/2 years. After the basic skills and rules were absorbed, I searched out courts that would be compatible with my level. As my skills increased over the years I continued to look for courts that would be skill compatible. My point is that I believe it is the responsibility of the person or persons who wants to insert themselves into an open play activity, to do a little research and find a venue that fits their skill level. With that said there will always be some that just show up and ask to play in a an activity beyond their skill level. They should realize this inequity reasonably soon and hopefully will move on to a compatible location elsewhere, which in TV they are numerous. If they don't there is nothing wrong with politltely suggesting there are other locations for their level of play. Beyond this the situation can deteriorate, which I have experienced, where the group just refuses to play with that person. At this point majority rules and the person(s) usually get the hint and move on. Seems in most cases Villages can politely resolve these situations, but with 110,000 + there will always be some that just don't care to.
Unless play time is designated by the rec dept (and in the rec magazine) as a particular level of play (beginner, adv beg, intermediate, advanced), open play means anyone can play at any time. For instance, the entire day at Churchill Rec Center is non-level-designated open play. Traditionally the better players come early in the morning, but anyone can come to play there regardless of the level or time. The rules are if there is someone waiting to play, you must rotate in and out.
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Really great subject..My open play experience with Pickleball has been fantastic and full credit goes to the folks who regularly play @Lake Miona.

I have had so much encouragement, tips on how to improve, from the men and women who obviously play there on a regular basis. I have played at other Pickleball Courts but none can remotely compare with Lake Miona. From the very moment you walk through the gate ..you get that Friendly Warm Welcome, Hi Good Morning..are you ready to play? Wow !

So my advice to All yes All Beginners, Intermediate Players, or just anyone who wants to improve their Picklebal Game...Go To LAKE MIONA any Weekday Morning preferably between 8:00 AM .. 10:00 AM.

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Thank You To The Pickleball Players of Lake Miona you truly are Very Special

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"first come, first served" is pretty clear to me.
I can't imagine trying to butt into a group of friends having fun, but some folks just can't help themselves.
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Really great subject..My open play experience with Pickleball has been fantastic and full credit goes to the folks who regularly play @Lake Miona.

I have had so much encouragement, tips on how to improve, from the men and women who obviously play there on a regular basis. I have played at other Pickleball Courts but none can remotely compare with Lake Miona. From the very moment you walk through the gate ..you get that Friendly Warm Welcome, Hi Good Morning..are you ready to play? Wow !

So my advice to All yes All Beginners, Intermediate Players, or just anyone who wants to improve their Picklebal Game...Go To LAKE MIONA any Weekday Morning preferably between 8:00 AM .. 10:00 AM.

Once again...

Thank You To The Pickleball Players of Lake Miona you truly are Very Special
So...it sounds like you like playing pickleball at Lake Miona?!?
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:13 PM
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"first come, first served" is pretty clear to me.
I can't imagine trying to butt into a group of friends having fun, but some folks just can't help themselves.
Would this not mean that a line should form with those arriving earlier playing before those that arrive later? "First come first served" does not mean you take ownership of the pool/court for as long as you desire. It just means that you go first.
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Would this not mean that a line should form with those arriving earlier playing before those that arrive later? "First come first served" does not mean you take ownership of the pool/court for as long as you desire. It just means that you go first.
Let's say I'm at a pickleball court playing with 3 friends on one of several availble courts at that location and 2 people show up and decide that instead of playing on another available court, two of us must sit down so that they have someone to play with. Sorry, I'm not doing it. We'll either leave or tell them no.
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Let's say I'm at a pickleball court playing with 3 friends on one of several availble courts at that location and 2 people show up and decide that instead of playing on another available court, two of us must sit down so that they have someone to play with. Sorry, I'm not doing it. We'll either leave or tell them no.
Wow!! If this were to happen in a group I play with we'd gladly let them alternate in with us. As a matter of fact we'd prefer 6 people over 4. This gives us all an occasional break and we all get to know some new players.
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