[PennBF]

We lived for many years between Palm Beach and Vero Beach with upiter just 4 smiles south. The mansions are many there including Tiger Woods, etc. There is no shortage of money. Also not mentioned is about 6-7miles south of Vero Beach was a Nudist Colony on Hutchenson Island. It is called "The Treasurer Coast" because over the years a number of Treasurer Ships sunk and were discovered there. If anyone has been to The Palm Beach Gardens you have a great understanding of the wealth that exists in this area. Havng said all of this it is probable that the wealthy residents (E.G. Kraft, et al). are in belief they can do what they want and their attorney's will protect them. As they will.

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by My Post

NE Pats owner Robert Kraft arrested in Jupiter Fla in prostitution sting. Asian massage "spa" that had been shut down recently for 7 months for trafficking women in from China.

Kraft saying he didn't do it.

Well, the police must of just pick him up for doing nothing because they had nothing else to do. But I guess I didn't expect him to admit it until proven guilty. Why was he picked up if he deny's it then?

[JimJohnson]

Men have been lieing and having extra marital affairs since the beginning of time. It is only being openly accepted in the last few years. As our religious leaders have told us, No one is perfect.

[villagerjack]

Wow! A lot there. Unfortunately all either inaccurate or shear speculation. The names of all the men but no women were published. Seems unfair but expected from the press who have a disdain for successful white men, if not all white men. The NY TIMES Headline was MEN ARE THE MONSTERS” No such comments about the women who started and ran the business. According to one article, the men were stopped for a “traffic violation” when they left the Massage Parlour and instead were interrogated without an attorney about what happened inside. None of the women who worked there suffered a similar treatment. That could be a problem for them in some of these cases. Kraft and the prominent others deny it but he is convicted already on TOTV. “ They have tapes ....Kraft is probably guilty...most women in whore houses are sex trafficked” ..BUT no one saw the tapes (The Press told us Jim Comey had tapes but they lied) ..and because they had tapes which no one saw, he is PROBABLY guilty and the Massage Parlours are not the source of most of the billions made by women selling their bodies for sex, it’s the Porn industry where most of the women who keep that industry going do it voluntarily for the money and are not sex trafficked. But that will not make headlines nor portray women as victims and men as monsters.

Point is that if this was indeed a sex trafficking case, why do the police even need the men on tape having sex with women when all it would prove is that they had sex with women. They could use undercover cops for that. None of the men appear to be involved with the yet unproven charge of sex trafficking. This was another disgraceful political hit piece and will probably go nowhere as far as the sex trafficking end of it. But no matter, the job has been done. Men’s names and reputations are sullied while women remain anonymous victims.When Law Enforcement cannot build a case because the women sex workers deny they were trafficked, the mantra will then be that the women were too afraid of what the men will do to them if they testify.

Young and old mothers should be terrified of what could happen to their sons.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by My Post

NE Pats owner Robert Kraft arrested in Jupiter Fla in prostitution sting. Asian massage "spa" that had been shut down recently for 7 months for trafficking women in from China.

Kraft saying he didn't do it.

Police say they have him on video, doing it.

[JimJohnson]

Any man or woman that commits adultery should be considered to have less than moral character and should not be allowed to be in positions that could influence our children.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

Wow! A lot there. Unfortunately all either inaccurate or shear speculation. The names of all the men but no women were published. Seems unfair but expected from the press who have a disdain for successful white men, if not all white men. The NY TIMES Headline was MEN ARE THE MONSTERS” No such comments about the women who started and ran the business. According to one article, the men were stopped for a “traffic violation” when they left the Massage Parlour and instead were interrogated without an attorney about what happened inside. None of the women who worked there suffered a similar treatment. That could be a problem for them in some of these cases. Kraft and the prominent others deny it but he is convicted already on TOTV. “ They have tapes ....Kraft is probably guilty...most women in whore houses are sex trafficked” ..BUT no one saw the tapes (The Press told us Jim Comey had tapes but they lied) ..and because they had tapes which no one saw, he is PROBABLY guilty and the Massage Parlours are not the source of most of the billions made by women selling their bodies for sex, it’s the Porn industry where most of the women who keep that industry going do it voluntarily for the money and are not sex trafficked. But that will not make headlines nor portray women as victims and men as monsters.

Point is that if this was indeed a sex trafficking case, why do the police even need the men on tape having sex with women when all it would prove is that they had sex with women. They could use undercover cops for that. None of the men appear to be involved with the yet unproven charge of sex trafficking. This was another disgraceful political hit piece and will probably go nowhere as far as the sex trafficking end of it. But no matter, the job has been done. Men’s names and reputations are sullied while women remain anonymous victims.When Law Enforcement cannot build a case because the women sex workers deny they were trafficked, the mantra will then be that the women were too afraid of what the men will do to them if they testify.

Young and old mothers should be terrified of what could happen to their sons.

You continually say the same thing.

I posted PICTURES and NAMES of those running the operation, and you gotta read more.........the world is aware and you simply shut out any facts and hold onto your fantasy.

Why is bad to publish the names of JOHNS in any case, especially this one ? Law enforcement will tell you if you wish to stop prostitution or human trafficking publish the USERS names...that usually gives them pause.


Reading your post, I might suggest you change or at least add to whatever your source of news is, because you are in fantasy land in most of what you say and are grounded and based on nothing but P talk. (and basing your belief system on P of any stripe is very suspect and is reminiscent of cults)

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by JimJohnson

Any man or woman that commits adultery should be considered to have less than moral character and should not be allowed to be in positions that could influence our children.

What about women without whom Adultrty is not possible? Mr Kraftwas not married. His wife died.

[villagerjack]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

Police say they have him on video, doing it.

Doing what ? Sex Trafficking ? Did you see the video ?

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

Wow! A lot there. Unfortunately all either inaccurate or shear speculation. The names of all the men but no women were published. Seems unfair but expected from the press who have a disdain for successful white men, if not all white men. The NY TIMES Headline was MEN ARE THE MONSTERS” No such comments about the women who started and ran the business. According to one article, the men were stopped for a “traffic violation” when they left the Massage Parlour and instead were interrogated without an attorney about what happened inside. None of the women who worked there suffered a similar treatment. That could be a problem for them in some of these cases. Kraft and the prominent others deny it but he is convicted already on TOTV. “ They have tapes ....Kraft is probably guilty...most women in whore houses are sex trafficked” ..BUT no one saw the tapes (The Press told us Jim Comey had tapes but they lied) ..and because they had tapes which no one saw, he is PROBABLY guilty and the Massage Parlours are not the source of most of the billions made by women selling their bodies for sex, it’s the Porn industry where most of the women who keep that industry going do it voluntarily for the money and are not sex trafficked. But that will not make headlines nor portray women as victims and men as monsters.

Point is that if this was indeed a sex trafficking case, why do the police even need the men on tape having sex with women when all it would prove is that they had sex with women. They could use undercover cops for that. None of the men appear to be involved with the yet unproven charge of sex trafficking. This was another disgraceful political hit piece and will probably go nowhere as far as the sex trafficking end of it. But no matter, the job has been done. Men’s names and reputations are sullied while women remain anonymous victims.When Law Enforcement cannot build a case because the women sex workers deny they were trafficked, the mantra will then be that the women were too afraid of what the men will do to them if they testify.

Young and old mothers should be terrified of what could happen to their sons.

WOW...is right.

Seriously, you really want to go there?

It does explain a lot though.

[JimJohnson]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

What about women without whom Adultrty is not possible? Mr Kraftwas not married. His wife died.

In my post “Any man or woman that commits adultery”.

Sorry, I should have typed that part louder.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

WOW...is right.

Seriously, you really want to go there?

It does explain a lot though.

It does....a lot.

A belief system based on hate and P is not a good mix at all. It will take over your soul and total being. As I said, like a cult, but worse because it becomes incurable and suddenly you are not the person you thought you were.

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

Or we can incessantly defend those who make human trafficking (for sex and domestic work)...possible and profitable.

Just as we prefer to ignore, those who do the hiring of undocumented workers...to increase profits.

Throw those who are willing to pay, therefore creating the 'market' in the first place, in jail...and watch how quickly the problem is dramatically reduced.

It really is THAT simple.

I agree that the people that provide the demand should be punished but the people that provide the supply should be the focus. The demand will always be there unless the supply is cut off. Just look at the drug trade as an example. You can throw as many addicts in jail as you want but the dealers/suppliers always find new customers. Sex, like drugs is an addiction to some people. There will always be a demand.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

I agree that the people that provide the demand should be punished but the people that provide the supply should be the focus. The demand will always be there unless the supply is cut off. Just look at the drug trade as an example. You can throw as many addicts in jail as you want but the dealers/suppliers always find new customers. Sex, like drugs is an addiction to some people. There will always be a demand.

It appears that was the idea behind this investigation.

NO "users" in this situation face jail, but the felony charges against those in charge and the publicity to the "users" will at minimum damper the industry in these counties.

Good police work on this one

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Sex, like drugs is an addiction to some people. There will always be a demand.

Gxd I hope sex will always be "there". what a miserable world this would be without sex and love and companionship and hope.

Throughout time there have been enough religious groups trying to make sex dirty and punishable and it has not worked yet. However, one feels, a world without sex would come to an end rather quickly because, other than the petri pot, there is no other way to perpetuate mankind. Come to think of it, even the petri pot needs the act of sex.