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PennBF 02-25-2019 08:24 AM

Not Surprised
 
We lived for many years between Palm Beach and Vero Beach with upiter just 4 smiles south. The mansions are many there including Tiger Woods, etc. There is no shortage of money. Also not mentioned is about 6-7miles south of Vero Beach was a Nudist Colony on Hutchenson Island. It is called "The Treasurer Coast" because over the years a number of Treasurer Ships sunk and were discovered there. If anyone has been to The Palm Beach Gardens you have a great understanding of the wealth that exists in this area. Havng said all of this it is probable that the wealthy residents (E.G. Kraft, et al). are in belief they can do what they want and their attorney's will protect them. As they will. :ho:

OhioBuckeye 02-25-2019 08:32 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by My Post (Post 1627028)
NE Pats owner Robert Kraft arrested in Jupiter Fla in prostitution sting. Asian massage "spa" that had been shut down recently for 7 months for trafficking women in from China.

Kraft saying he didn't do it.

Well, the police must of just pick him up for doing nothing because they had nothing else to do. But I guess I didn't expect him to admit it until proven guilty. Why was he picked up if he deny's it then?

JimJohnson 02-25-2019 08:53 AM

Men have been lieing and having extra marital affairs since the beginning of time. It is only being openly accepted in the last few years. As our religious leaders have told us, No one is perfect.

villagerjack 02-25-2019 08:56 AM

Wow! A lot there. Unfortunately all either inaccurate or shear speculation. The names of all the men but no women were published. Seems unfair but expected from the press who have a disdain for successful white men, if not all white men. The NY TIMES Headline was MEN ARE THE MONSTERS” No such comments about the women who started and ran the business. According to one article, the men were stopped for a “traffic violation” when they left the Massage Parlour and instead were interrogated without an attorney about what happened inside. None of the women who worked there suffered a similar treatment. That could be a problem for them in some of these cases. Kraft and the prominent others deny it but he is convicted already on TOTV. “ They have tapes ....Kraft is probably guilty...most women in whore houses are sex trafficked” ..BUT no one saw the tapes (The Press told us Jim Comey had tapes but they lied) ..and because they had tapes which no one saw, he is PROBABLY guilty and the Massage Parlours are not the source of most of the billions made by women selling their bodies for sex, it’s the Porn industry where most of the women who keep that industry going do it voluntarily for the money and are not sex trafficked. But that will not make headlines nor portray women as victims and men as monsters.

Point is that if this was indeed a sex trafficking case, why do the police even need the men on tape having sex with women when all it would prove is that they had sex with women. They could use undercover cops for that. None of the men appear to be involved with the yet unproven charge of sex trafficking. This was another disgraceful political hit piece and will probably go nowhere as far as the sex trafficking end of it. But no matter, the job has been done. Men’s names and reputations are sullied while women remain anonymous victims.When Law Enforcement cannot build a case because the women sex workers deny they were trafficked, the mantra will then be that the women were too afraid of what the men will do to them if they testify.

Young and old mothers should be terrified of what could happen to their sons.

airstreamingypsy 02-25-2019 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by My Post (Post 1627028)
NE Pats owner Robert Kraft arrested in Jupiter Fla in prostitution sting. Asian massage "spa" that had been shut down recently for 7 months for trafficking women in from China.

Kraft saying he didn't do it.

Police say they have him on video, doing it. :a040:

JimJohnson 02-25-2019 09:19 AM

Any man or woman that commits adultery should be considered to have less than moral character and should not be allowed to be in positions that could influence our children.

Bucco 02-25-2019 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1627887)
Wow! A lot there. Unfortunately all either inaccurate or shear speculation. The names of all the men but no women were published. Seems unfair but expected from the press who have a disdain for successful white men, if not all white men. The NY TIMES Headline was MEN ARE THE MONSTERS” No such comments about the women who started and ran the business. According to one article, the men were stopped for a “traffic violation” when they left the Massage Parlour and instead were interrogated without an attorney about what happened inside. None of the women who worked there suffered a similar treatment. That could be a problem for them in some of these cases. Kraft and the prominent others deny it but he is convicted already on TOTV. “ They have tapes ....Kraft is probably guilty...most women in whore houses are sex trafficked” ..BUT no one saw the tapes (The Press told us Jim Comey had tapes but they lied) ..and because they had tapes which no one saw, he is PROBABLY guilty and the Massage Parlours are not the source of most of the billions made by women selling their bodies for sex, it’s the Porn industry where most of the women who keep that industry going do it voluntarily for the money and are not sex trafficked. But that will not make headlines nor portray women as victims and men as monsters.

Point is that if this was indeed a sex trafficking case, why do the police even need the men on tape having sex with women when all it would prove is that they had sex with women. They could use undercover cops for that. None of the men appear to be involved with the yet unproven charge of sex trafficking. This was another disgraceful political hit piece and will probably go nowhere as far as the sex trafficking end of it. But no matter, the job has been done. Men’s names and reputations are sullied while women remain anonymous victims.When Law Enforcement cannot build a case because the women sex workers deny they were trafficked, the mantra will then be that the women were too afraid of what the men will do to them if they testify.

Young and old mothers should be terrified of what could happen to their sons.

You continually say the same thing.

I posted PICTURES and NAMES of those running the operation, and you gotta read more.........the world is aware and you simply shut out any facts and hold onto your fantasy.

Why is bad to publish the names of JOHNS in any case, especially this one ? Law enforcement will tell you if you wish to stop prostitution or human trafficking publish the USERS names...that usually gives them pause.


Reading your post, I might suggest you change or at least add to whatever your source of news is, because you are in fantasy land in most of what you say and are grounded and based on nothing but P talk. (and basing your belief system on P of any stripe is very suspect and is reminiscent of cults)

villagerjack 02-25-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1627899)
Any man or woman that commits adultery should be considered to have less than moral character and should not be allowed to be in positions that could influence our children.

What about women without whom Adultrty is not possible? Mr Kraftwas not married. His wife died.

villagerjack 02-25-2019 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1627889)
Police say they have him on video, doing it. :a040:

Doing what ? Sex Trafficking ? Did you see the video ?

ColdNoMore 02-25-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1627887)
Wow! A lot there. Unfortunately all either inaccurate or shear speculation. The names of all the men but no women were published. Seems unfair but expected from the press who have a disdain for successful white men, if not all white men. The NY TIMES Headline was MEN ARE THE MONSTERS” No such comments about the women who started and ran the business. According to one article, the men were stopped for a “traffic violation” when they left the Massage Parlour and instead were interrogated without an attorney about what happened inside. None of the women who worked there suffered a similar treatment. That could be a problem for them in some of these cases. Kraft and the prominent others deny it but he is convicted already on TOTV. “ They have tapes ....Kraft is probably guilty...most women in whore houses are sex trafficked” ..BUT no one saw the tapes (The Press told us Jim Comey had tapes but they lied) ..and because they had tapes which no one saw, he is PROBABLY guilty and the Massage Parlours are not the source of most of the billions made by women selling their bodies for sex, it’s the Porn industry where most of the women who keep that industry going do it voluntarily for the money and are not sex trafficked. But that will not make headlines nor portray women as victims and men as monsters.

Point is that if this was indeed a sex trafficking case, why do the police even need the men on tape having sex with women when all it would prove is that they had sex with women. They could use undercover cops for that. None of the men appear to be involved with the yet unproven charge of sex trafficking. This was another disgraceful political hit piece and will probably go nowhere as far as the sex trafficking end of it. But no matter, the job has been done. Men’s names and reputations are sullied while women remain anonymous victims.When Law Enforcement cannot build a case because the women sex workers deny they were trafficked, the mantra will then be that the women were too afraid of what the men will do to them if they testify.

Young and old mothers should be terrified of what could happen to their sons.

WOW...is right. :oops:

Seriously, you really want to go there?

It does explain a lot though. :ohdear:

JimJohnson 02-25-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1627909)
What about women without whom Adultrty is not possible? Mr Kraftwas not married. His wife died.

In my post “Any man or woman that commits adultery”.

Sorry, I should have typed that part louder.

Bucco 02-25-2019 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1627920)
WOW...is right. :oops:

Seriously, you really want to go there?

It does explain a lot though. :ohdear:

It does....a lot.

A belief system based on hate and P is not a good mix at all. It will take over your soul and total being. As I said, like a cult, but worse because it becomes incurable and suddenly you are not the person you thought you were.

Kenswing 02-25-2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1627828)
Or we can incessantly defend those who make human trafficking (for sex and domestic work)...possible and profitable.

Just as we prefer to ignore, those who do the hiring of undocumented workers...to increase profits.

Throw those who are willing to pay, therefore creating the 'market' in the first place, in jail...and watch how quickly the problem is dramatically reduced.

It really is THAT simple. :ohdear:

I agree that the people that provide the demand should be punished but the people that provide the supply should be the focus. The demand will always be there unless the supply is cut off. Just look at the drug trade as an example. You can throw as many addicts in jail as you want but the dealers/suppliers always find new customers. Sex, like drugs is an addiction to some people. There will always be a demand.

Bucco 02-25-2019 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1627973)
I agree that the people that provide the demand should be punished but the people that provide the supply should be the focus. The demand will always be there unless the supply is cut off. Just look at the drug trade as an example. You can throw as many addicts in jail as you want but the dealers/suppliers always find new customers. Sex, like drugs is an addiction to some people. There will always be a demand.

It appears that was the idea behind this investigation.

NO "users" in this situation face jail, but the felony charges against those in charge and the publicity to the "users" will at minimum damper the industry in these counties.

Good police work on this one

Madelaine Amee 02-25-2019 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1627973)
Sex, like drugs is an addiction to some people. There will always be a demand.

Gxd I hope sex will always be "there". what a miserable world this would be without sex and love and companionship and hope.

Throughout time there have been enough religious groups trying to make sex dirty and punishable and it has not worked yet. However, one feels, a world without sex would come to an end rather quickly because, other than the petri pot, there is no other way to perpetuate mankind. Come to think of it, even the petri pot needs the act of sex. :icon_wink:

Bucco 02-25-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1627978)
Gxd I hope sex will always be "there". what a miserable world this would be without sex and love and companionship and hope.

Throughout time there have been enough religious groups trying to make sex dirty and punishable and it has not worked yet. However, one feels, a world without sex would come to an end rather quickly because, other than the petri pot, there is no other way to perpetuate mankind. Come to think of it, even the petri pot needs the act of sex. :icon_wink:

WOW, talk about changing the subject....BIG TIME

Kenswing 02-25-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1627978)
Gxd I hope sex will always be "there". what a miserable world this would be without sex and love and companionship and hope.

Throughout time there have been enough religious groups trying to make sex dirty and punishable and it has not worked yet. However, one feels, a world without sex would come to an end rather quickly because, other than the petri pot, there is no other way to perpetuate mankind. Come to think of it, even the petri pot needs the act of sex. :icon_wink:

:1rotfl: Just a little out of context.. The post was about the demand to pay for SEX. Not the act of love making..

To some, sex has NOTHING to do with love. It can be about power. I can be about simple self gratification. Sex can be dirty. It's the intent behind the act that determines what it is. Not everyone has sex to procreate.

Madelaine Amee 02-25-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1627980)
WOW, talk about changing the subject....BIG TIME

You guys can go back to pontificating any time you feel like it .... carry on!

fw102807 02-25-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1627983)
You guys can go back to pontificating any time you feel like it .... carry on!

Pontificating...I like that

Bayco 02-25-2019 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1627609)
You are so naive it is scary !!!!! I MEAN really scary

Yes it is.

villagerjack 02-25-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by coldnomore (Post 1627920)
wow...is right. :oops:

Seriously, you really want to go there?

It does explain a lot though. :ohdear:

ny times...”men are the monsters”

redwitch 02-25-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1628007)
ny times...”men are the monsters”

Maybe you should read The NY Times article. It is a quote by Sheriff Snyder and the title is not “Men Are the Monsters” but rather “‘The Monsters Are the Men’: Inside a Thriving Sex Trafficking Trade in Florida”. If you’re going to quote something, at least make the effort to quote it correctly, especially if you’re going to do it repeatedly.

Bucco 02-25-2019 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1627983)
You guys can go back to pontificating any time you feel like it .... carry on!

Pontificating....the subject of the thread was HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN AND THEIR SLAVERY AND USE AS OBJECT WHILE HELD PRISONER SO THEIR CAPTIVES CAN MAKE MONEY AT THEIR EXPENSE.

Sex itself, or making love whatever is not even remotely close to what is happening here nor the subject matter.

If clarifying that is "pontificating" I am guilty

JimJohnson 02-25-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1628049)
Maybe you should read The NY Times article. It is a quote by Sheriff Snyder and the title is not “Men Are the Monsters” but rather “‘The Monsters Are the Men’: Inside a Thriving Sex Trafficking Trade in Florida”. If you’re going to quote something, at least make the effort to quote it correctly, especially if you’re going to do it repeatedly.

Men are 100% responsible for sex crimes. Sorry guys, just keeping it real.

Bucco 02-25-2019 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1628049)
Maybe you should read The NY Times article. It is a quote by Sheriff Snyder and the title is not “Men Are the Monsters” but rather “‘The Monsters Are the Men’: Inside a Thriving Sex Trafficking Trade in Florida”. If you’re going to quote something, at least make the effort to quote it correctly, especially if you’re going to do it repeatedly.

I you are going to require certain groups to be honest, and quote honestly, you will really dramatically reduce the posters.

Incredible how they VERBALLY ATTACK THE TIMES.......but if necessary go to the TIMES AND THEN MISQUOTE THEM.

I was told way back on here to link if you need to quote so that everything is validated and in context

Bucco 02-25-2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1628007)
ny times...”men are the monsters”

Here you go....take the time to read the article from which you copied and pasted a headline...

‘The Monsters Are the Men’: Inside a Thriving Sex Trafficking Trade in Florida - The New York Times

Bucco 02-25-2019 02:32 PM

Just hope this puts the pressure on to reopen the Jeff Epstein case because it involved CHILDREN

Moderator 02-25-2019 02:45 PM

This thread has degenerated into a squabble between two points of view with neither side engaging in more than finger pointing. The thread is closed.

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