Holy Crow, they let it go on for months when they had proof after one week? Of course, I support the Police. Why did it go on for so long when people were being trafficked?

I don't like seeing anyone get hurt on either side or on here. I just hope things work out for the people held against their will and the accused get their day in court and no I didn't read every single attachment cause it all boils down to what happens in court.

This seems simple to me why is it getting so complicated. How do we really know the facts that we attach to our post are in fact facts? Wheres the proof? After court, we will know.

First of all, Mr Kraft has not been arrested. It has been alleged that he participated in a misdemeanor. Which if he is found guilty requires that he pay a fine.

The police say that they have video of him and several other high profile people engaging in sex acts. The police have often said things that have later turned out to be untrue.

If they do indeed have evidence against Mr Kraft and several other high profile people, why is it that Mr Kraft's name is the only one that has been released.

It's also been reported that the Jupiter police have waited several months before busting this place. Why would they let that kind of activity go on for that long? Why would they knowingly allow forced prostitution and human trafficking continue in their town for months?

Something doesn't seem right about this.

Nothing about outward appearance of The Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter would suggest that they are a legitimate operation. Nothing in their advertising or website indicates that there is anything funny going on there.

One of the services listed is massage. It's entirely likely that a 77 year old man with a lot of money might enjoy a massage on a regular basis.

It's entirely possible that Mr Kraft visited the spa for a perfectly legal massage and got caught up in something. His attorneys state that he did nothing illegal.

If the police do have video of Mr Kraft participating in a sex act, it will be shown to the courts and to Mr Krafts attorneys. Until then, I think that we should all keep our opinions to ourselves.

It says Kraft was “involved in Human Trafickking Ring “

HE WAS NOT

Please clear up the link you sent and correct your aggregious post.

One more time and then I give up.

The stumbling around to defend Kraft, and it appears only him. As I mentioned, more than him were cited.

The police spent months satisfying the law to be able to outfit the spa with cameras. They also, prior to that, stopped customers and many of them gave the police information as to what the place was about. Then, police went in with cameras. ALL done to satisfy the strict laws allowing police to use the cameras etc.

I said he "enabled" human trafficking.

Why such violent defense of Kraft. Nobody even mentions the other rich guys. What is it about Kraft that inspires such love and protective action.

Hell, in the last few years, I have seen folks publicly excoriated with ZERO evidence or facts.

Great idea in theory..

Yeah, you are right and correct.

I really meant it until simply browsing I saw a post from someone who chronically uses this forum as a playground and thus I just had to respond. A bad habit, which I think you pointed out to me, but I believe truth is truth and everyone on this forum, and in life, should call out folks spouting crap, and it is crap by insinuation or outright lies.

If you or yours wish to criticize me for that, so be it.

If you care more about defending someone because of whatever, than complimenting our law enforcement for protecting people and stopping illegal activities, that's on you ( collective you, not personal aimed)

Show me where I defended ANYONE. I did make a post warning not to jump to conclusions based on other recent events. But nowhere did I defend anyone.

I'm just surprised that you continue to pontificate knowing you're not going to change the views of anyone.. You're going down the road of obsessiveness with almost 1/3 of the total posts in this thread. For your own mental wellbeing you might want to step back for awhile.

Boy they are all out for me now.

Did you not read when I said....."collective you, not personal" ?

I am passionate, but you are also, especially along with another, how often I post (much less than you or her). I think a forum serves little purpose if we do not express our views and point out, WITH REFERNCE) where you feel they fall short.

This is become the story on here with any serious subject....keep lying and making things up and then attack those who want to keep it straight.

Sorry to bother you with a serious subject for discussion, truth or passion.

I note that always brings out the same posters to go at me.

Again, did you not see where I clarified....." a collective you, and not personal" ?

Or simply choose to ignore ?

This sub-forum is NFL Football. The alleged misdemeanor by Kraft is the only element of the story that is even remotely related to NFL Football. Surely there is another forum better suited for crusades.

Who exactly is it that I'm allegedly aligned with? Do you honestly believe there is a concerted effort to shout you down?

I understand you are passionate about many things. But stating your case ad nauseum isn't going to change anyone's mind.

This thread started with the subject of Robert Kraft's arrest. You turned it into a crusade about Human Trafficking. You've made your point. I guess you have the right to keep making it if you want.

If all this is True it is a case of WOMEN abusing other WOMEN. But that does not read well or sell newspapers so the headline reads that 200 not 20, 200 MEN were caught in a thus unproven Sex Traficking INVESTIGATION sting wherein they went in for a massage and may have received something extra. If o So the MEN who paid the WOMEN who were not forced into anything (No Rape charges) are the real culprits? They are exposed not the WOMEN?. This is another example of disgraceful journalism. To add fuel to the fire the man caught was a friend of the President. THE HEADLINE SHOULD HAVE BEEN:

“TWO WOMEN WERE ARRESTED FOR RUNNING A MASSAGE PARLOUR IN WHICH OTHER WOMEN VOLUNTARILY SOLD THEIR THEIR BODIES FOR CASH. POLICE SUSPECT THAT THE WOMEN OWNERS MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A SEX TRAFFICKING OF OTHER WOMEN BUT SO FAR HAVE NO PROOF AND NO CHARGES OF RUNNING A SEX TRAFICKING OPERATION HAVE BEEN FILED. Men involved in visiting the Massage Parlour May have to pay a fine for the Misdemeanor they allegrdly committed but so far this has not yet happened and it is noted that some of the men are denying the charges. At this time no names will be released as the case is still under investigation. “

Instead we get: “THE MONSTERS ARE THE MEN”...from The NY Times. No mention that WOMEN ran the place.

Kraft and the other white Millionaire were not charged with anything and both deny it. No matter, their reputations are sullied since the headlinesnever leave the Internet. No one noted that in 2015, Bob Kraft has given over $100,000 of his hard earned money to an organization that fights Sex Trafficking.

Not ignoring. I guess I didn't read close enough. I apologize.