2nd Wave??
 

Our number of cases doesn't look good today. Looks like it is not going away and scientists were correct in our getting a second wave of virus.
I am hunkering down as I have been since start. There will be a lot less Villagers if everybody thinks it is over.

Since the dawn of time there is one and only one cure for any virus, exposure. Be it from a vaccine or the the virus itself.

Thus be prepared to 'hunker down' for years. Or accept risks in your life as you have and continue to accept for the remainder of your life for virtually every activity in life.

And I will accept risks and enjoy life by not hunkering down.

Thursday’s Coronavirus Updates: 3,356 new cases, 141 new deaths reported in Florida.
WINK NEWS

Florida Dept. of Health:

3,330 new cases
2 deaths

Given your expertise what is your recommendation of what people can sensibly do to protect themselves? I am not being snarky, I am genuinely interested in your opinion.

The number of cases is meaningless.

In Sumter county, population of 135,000, a total of 77 people have died from the virus. That works out to .o5% of the population. Not exactly the end of the world kind of number.

This is not a virus like Ebloa. Get out and enjoy life!

Tell that to the person who's spouse was one of the .05%

First and foremost, social distancing. It is very hard to contract this virus from more than 6 feet away, even without a mask and especially outdoors.

Second, mask in the appropriate setting. Mostly when you cannot guarantee social distancing, and especially indoors when people are getting within 6 feet. But remember, a mask is not a suit of armor against this virus, it offers minimal protection for the wearer. It helps protect other people to a degree if not distanced. Keep in mind, however, to get the virus from another, that person has to be spewing droplets in your vicinity, he has to be positive for COVID, and in the infective stage as well, plus deliver enough of an inoculum to infect you. The odds are low, but if they were zero, there would be no pandemic. There is no need to worship at the altar of the holy mask, wear it to bed or while driving alone, etc.

Third, while there is little evidence of surface to human infection, it can't hurt to wash your hands often and use hand sanitizer. There are plenty of other germs out there that can be avoided in this fashion

Hope that answers your question

There is a growing belief that viral load determines the severity of your infection. Therefore, don't stay inside long without adequate outside air ventilation, and wearing a mask will help stopsome inbound virus. However, the key is not a long exposure, and be sure to take Vitamin D, the fresh outdoor sunshine vitamin.

Thank you that is very helpful.

See Dr. Fauci article just published on CNBC dot com .

Correct: Home | Florida Department of Health COVID-19 Outbreak

I'm still grossed out by the word "spewing".
I'm going to have nightmares tonight.

Here we go again, thread #27562 "only a couple died." ....... you can LIVE and feel like you are going to die as well for a LONG time after getting this:

COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects - Mayo Clinic


Most people who have coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) recover completely within a few weeks. But some people — even those who had mild versions of the disease — continue to experience symptoms after their initial recovery.

Older people and people with many serious medical conditions are the most likely to experience lingering COVID-19 symptoms. The most common signs and symptoms that linger over time include:

Fatigue
Cough
Shortness of breath
Headache
Joint pain

Although COVID-19 is seen as a disease that primarily affects the lungs, it can damage many other organs as well. This organ damage may increase the risk of long-term health problems

Organs that may be affected by COVID-19 include:

Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future.

Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems.

Brain. Even in young people, COVID-19 can cause strokes, seizures and Guillain-Barre syndrome — a condition that causes temporary paralysis. COVID-19 may also increase the risk of developing Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease.

Blood clots and blood vessel problems

COVID-19 can make blood cells more likely to clump up and form clots. While large clots can cause heart attacks and strokes, much of the heart damage caused by COVID-19 is believed to stem from very small clots that block tiny blood vessels (capillaries) in the heart muscle.

Other organs affected by blood clots include the lungs, legs, liver and kidneys. COVID-19 can also weaken blood vessels, which contributes to potentially long-lasting problems with the liver and kidneys.

Problems with mood and fatigue

People who have severe symptoms of COVID-19 often have to be treated in a hospital's intensive care unit, with mechanical assistance such as ventilators to breathe. Simply surviving this experience can make a person more likely to later develop post-traumatic stress syndrome, depression and anxiety.

Because it's difficult to predict long-term outcomes from the new COVID-19 virus, scientists are looking at the long-term effects seen in related viruses, such as severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).

Many people who have recovered from SARS have gone on to develop chronic fatigue syndrome, a complex disorder characterized by extreme fatigue that worsens with physical or mental activity, but doesn't improve with rest. The same may be true for people who have had COVID-19.
Many long-term COVID-19 effects still unknown

Much is still unknown about how COVID-19 will affect people over time. However, researchers recommend that doctors closely monitor people who have had COVID-19 to see how their organs are functioning after recovery.

It's important to remember that most people who have COVID-19 recover quickly. But the potentially long-lasting problems from COVID-19 make it even more important to reduce the spread of the disease by following precautions such as wearing masks, avoiding crowds and keeping hands clean.

I do what I can as I go about my life. My days are numbered; just don't know how many. I will die of something and it may be this virus. Hopefully I'll be able to say goodbye to my loved ones, unlike those who perish in car wrecks or are stricken with heart attacks and strokes, and run through the Golden Gate to loved ones who went before.

Seems to me we are still in the midst of the first wave. I have not felt safe going anywhere since early March when we were just realizing the pandemic was upon us. Mask and gloves are the norm wherever I go and restaurant dining, large gatherings, etc. are out of the question for me for the foreseeable future.

The top of the food chain are viruses
 

He also has asthma and is obese. He's lucky to have survived it.

A lot of people wearing mask religiously are getting Covid. What exactly do we do? Most get over it just fine and some don’t. I will not hibernate inside! I will take precautions but I’m living life. I will not be driving a vehicle alone n wear a mask. If I’m outside keeping a distance, I will live life like always. If someone is sneezing away like crazy or coughing their heads off then I will politely get away from them. If your sick stay away from people. Flu n cold season is around the corner, this will get interesting. Science and doctors told us all kinds of things: When warm summer comes this was going away. Nobody remembers half of what they told us because they flip-flop on everything. I can’t keep up with all the experts, and the differing opinions. If some mask don’t work then why are they so popular everywhere? In spite of everything life is good! If we shut the television off, life gets better The news 24/7 is driving some absolutely crazy! Don’t believe the ... (nonsense).

Vitamin D3 and Vitamin C can boost your immunity. If we wore masks in crowds and washed our hands before we touched our eyes or mouth, it would most likely cut down on contracting viral illness of any kind. If we shelter too much, I believe we compromise our immune system, making us even more easily infected. Growing up - covering our mouths and washing our hands was the common advise, don't know where or when that advise went astray.

While you are sort of right, death isn’t the only thing to fear. My girlfriend’s dad died of the virus in September in Florida. Her mother nearly died, spending three weeks in the hospital when we were pretty sure she wouldn’t make it. She survived, but her dementia is much worse, and she can no longer be alone. Her home and years of belongings have been sold or thrown away, she’s had to give up driving, and she’s had to move north to live with her children or go into a nursing home. She’s alive, but her life has changed immensely, not least no longer having her husband of sixty-some years.

How many of that number have had side effects that limit their ability to work or live the life they had before. The number is much higher than the number who died.

Also, how much does it cost to spend three weeks in the hospital with constant care and lots of extras like huge amounts of oxygen and meds? Who pays for it? We all do, one way or another. It’s not free.

Zip impact on COVID.

Thank you. I challenge the OP to produce just ONE original research article of a multi-centered university double blinded, placebo controlled study of at least 2000 people in a LEGITIMATE MEDICAL JOURNAL (NEJM, JAMA, Lancet) that shows the impact of Vit D3 and C as claimed. Articles from the North Dakota journal of holistic therapy and vitamin sales techniques or a pharmacy doctoral thesis study of 22 fellow students DO NOT COUNT!!!

Based on Dr. Fauci’s record why would anyone believe him , the CDC, or the other health experts who have proven since this started none of them are sure about anything relating to COVID?

Over 200,000 Americans dead from the virus, multiple documented infections from events where social distancing is not practiced, and soaring infection rates in multiple heatlh care systems in multiple states.

Off topic with that comment. Yeah, sorry people are losing spouses but we are discussing percentages of people ill in TV

This is a reasonable review of some post-viral sequellae, but be very careful how you interpret it.

1) None of the "long term" effects are UNIQUE to COVID 19, they occur with just about any virus. There is no good data to show they occur more frequently with COVID.

2) Note the "byline" on the original article---"Mayo Clinic Staff". This is not a research article or study, it is just a list some people at Mayo scraped together. Studies are scrutinized by fellow researchers who try to reproduce the results. This is equivalent to an editorial in a newspaper---no fact checking.

3) Cardiac effects---- Unless you have "cardiac imaging" from hundreds of people just before and after COVID infection, the statement has no scientific validity. It is likely true, since many viruses can causes a long term myocarditis, but the sine qua non is endomyocardial biopsy, which I doubt anyone would volunteer for.

4) Pulmonary effects---Any respiratory virus, and even bacterial pneumonitis can result in lung scarring and reduced FEV1 and TLC long term

5) Neurological effects---Any virus and most viral vaccines have a low incidence of Guillian-Barre syndrome (which is easier to write than acute idiopathic demyelinating polyradiculopathy). Alzheimer's and Parkinson's take years to develop and diagnose, so how they can make this statement about a virus that has been around for less than a year is questionable

6) Blood clots---again, just about any infection can lead to a coagulopathy

But where the authors really go astray is with their statement of SARS leading to "chronic fatigue syndrome" There is no consensus in the medical community that CFS even exists, it is NOT a disease, it is a collection of somatic symptoms that usually occurs in patients with severe psychiatric overlay. I would give it no credence.

So there, I just gave a superficial critical overview of the article on Mayo's website. The real unknown here is how often these sequellae occur vs. other viruses, such as Influenza A

The mask does NOT protect the wearer. It protects others from the wearer

Based on Fauci's record, you should listen to every word he says. Even the country's leading expert cannot know the unknown

Please try READING the post again, based on your response I think you may have missed something:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

We’re Doomed! 😳

Don’t be stupid!
 

The small percentage of deaths doesn’t mean that getting COVID19 is inconsequential. Chris Christie didn’t die but he was hospitalized and was in the ICU. That IS a life changing experience! There’s also evidence of of lingering symptoms, so called “long haulers.” There’s now proof that reinfection can occur.
There’s so much unknown about COVID19 that just “living your life” like it’s not dangerous is akin to playing Russian roulette. Please wear a mask & practice social distancing for other people even if you don’t care about yourself.
Herd immunity, which is now being advocated by some, is a recipe for disaster that is going to kill millions, not thousands, and overwhelm the health care system.
COVID19 isn’t Republican or Democrat. It doesn’t care who it kills or sickens. It has only one goal...to replicate. America is the world’s leader among developed countries in allowing COVID19 to replicate. That’s not going to change until millions of Americans stop being stupid. It’s not “freedom” to refuse to wear a mask or ignore social distancing. It is, simply, sociopathic.

It’s simple, just go about your life but be sensible. Wash your hands often, use hand sanitizer when you come out of stores and when you cannot distance wear a mask if it makes you feel comfortable. This is a virus. You cannot hid from it any more than you can hide from the common cold or the flu. The only thing you can do is take as many precautions as you can but hiding in your home is not one of them as it has it’s own health risks associated with it.

For God's sake, do want you personally want to, but don't forget to keep your mask on between bites. The 3,300 case count is Florida wide and includes many cases on college campuses, similar to other states.

I'd like to see the demographics on these 3030 new cases. The last big bump we had was mostly in the southeast and due to young people going to bars and getting the virus.

Where are these 3030 cases?

What age groups are they in? Are they younger people engaging in more risky behavior or are they older more susceptible people?

I saw an article last week that said in since the schools have reopened, cases of school age children in September have gone down.

In a state with over 21 million people and a large area, 3030 does not seem like a large number and it's important to know how localized this outbreak is. If most of the cases are in Miami, for example, I wouldn't be overly worried. At the rate of 3030 cases per week, it would take 64,000 weeks to infect the entire population of the state?

And as the president has stated, most people (over 95%) will experience mild flu like symptoms.

I'm not taking this lightly. I try to stay six feet away from people and I wear a mask when I go indoors at public places. But numbers get thrown around like they are huge. Every day in the online paper, I see 5 new cases, 12 new cases, 19 new cases etc. like they are huge numbers. They are not. I think that the numbers are low because most people are doing what's necessary to minimize their chance of becoming infected.

Another question that I have is about false positives. I have a friend who along with his wife both tested positive. After two days and two more tests 24 hours apart they were determined to be negative and that the initial results were a false positive. My questions are, how many of these false positives are there and are they counted in the 3030 reported cases?

This is not the second wave. It is still the first. The virus is not going away anytime soon. An effective vaccine won't be available for the masses until at least next year and there is no guarantee that 50% will take it.

Why is it that Spain, Italy, and England who had the toughest lock down rules I Europe have as of a percentage of population higher infectious and death rates than the US and their economies are in significantly more trouble than ours?

Here is the web site:

Experience

Ole Dr Fugi. What a nut.

Ridiculous! It’s about hospitalizations and deaths not about the number of cases which is also dropping drastically. Don’t know where you’re getting your information? But by all means stay in your house!