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coffeebean 09-14-2021 02:01 PM

Universal Masking for Source Control
 
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

Altavia 09-14-2021 02:12 PM

Masking is the only risk reduction available to children.

Powerpoint summary of the Science behind masking to reduce the risk of transmitting COVID.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...sking-full.pdf

Gpsma 09-14-2021 02:32 PM

Oh god..another mask thread...just what we need

Two Bills 09-14-2021 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2003974)
Oh god..another mask thread...just what we need

Oh please..masks..be grateful u can still see to read them!:icon_wink:
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n8xwb 09-14-2021 03:37 PM

That's what someone says this week......

njbchbum 09-14-2021 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003960)
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 2003965)
Masking is the only risk reduction available to children.

Powerpoint summary of the Science behind masking to reduce the risk of transmitting COVID.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...sking-full.pdf

So you still have confidence in the CDC's "science" re children wearing masks after all of the teacher's union influence/interference?
cdc influenced by teacher's union at DuckDuckGo

And that court decision on mask wearing and parents seem to still be up in the air!
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TSO/ISPF 09-14-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 2004014)
So you still have confidence in the CDC's "science" re children wearing masks after all of the teacher's union influence/interference?
cdc influenced by teacher's union at DuckDuckGo

And that court decision on mask wearing and parents seem to still be up in the air!
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How about common sense for a change! If you think it's harmful to wear a mask then keep the kids home. This argument about masks is just nuts. Last years cold and flew season was a non event. Doesn't that tell you masks do some good? The Delta version was not around last year. It's something of a new ball game for those who would talk about last school year.

Bogie Shooter 09-14-2021 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2003974)
Oh god..another mask thread...just what we need

And the same posters with there bias opinions…….right nothing new to be learned here.

JMintzer 09-14-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 2004018)
How about common sense for a change! If you think it's harmful to wear a mask then keep the kids home. This argument about masks is just nuts. Last years cold and flew season was a non event. Doesn't that tell you masks do some good? The Delta version was not around last year. It's something of a new ball game for those who would talk about last school year.

Cold and flu was down because everyone was working from home, kids were zooming for classes and people finally figured out how to wash their hands...

Topspinmo 09-14-2021 06:04 PM

I recommend we should have mask permanently sowed to our faces with only tiny slit for straw. The would solve several problems. Mask zombies, overweight problems, and obnoxiously loud people to name few. :welcome:

golfing eagles 09-14-2021 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003960)
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

Totally agree.

I'm just going to re-post what I posted on another thread on the same subject which was closed because, as usual, people could not keep their dumb political comments to themselves.

Background----I posted that this decision should not be left to parents or even school boards because 90+% of them lack the knowledge to make such a decision. The usual culprit, and rather lamely this time, stated that I insulted 90+% of parents, and then quipped "My child has a temp of 103. Hello congressman, what should I do"

So here was my response:

Yes, when the topic is the understanding of the virology and epidemiology of a COVID pandemic and the value of masks for both the vaccinated and unvaccinated, adults and children, I AM going to insult 90+% of not only parents, but all adults as well. It is simply NOT a decision that should be left to either amateurs or politicians.

BTW, It's hardly an "insult". If you tell me I don't have the expertise to land an F-16 on the deck of an aircraft carrier, are you insulting me?

and as a to: "My child has a fever of 103. Hello, congressman. What should I do?"---How about "Hello, pediatrician, what should I do"?

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-14-2021 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2004047)
Totally agree.

I'm just going to re-post what I posted on another thread on the same subject which was closed because, as usual, people could not keep their dumb political comments to themselves.

Background----I posted that this decision should not be left to parents or even school boards because 90+% of them lack the knowledge to make such a decision. The usual culprit, and rather lamely this time, stated that I insulted 90+% of parents, and then quipped "My child has a temp of 103. Hello congressman, what should I do"

So here was my response:

Yes, when the topic is the understanding of the virology and epidemiology of a COVID pandemic and the value of masks for both the vaccinated and unvaccinated, adults and children, I AM going to insult 90+% of not only parents, but all adults as well. It is simply NOT a decision that should be left to either amateurs or politicians.

BTW, It's hardly an "insult". If you tell me I don't have the expertise to land an F-16 on the deck of an aircraft carrier, are you insulting me?

and as a to: "My child has a fever of 103. Hello, congressman. What should I do?"---How about "Hello, pediatrician, what should I do"?

Why should anyone in the Villages care about whether children are put in harm's way? Their kids are all grown.


Let the parents of today's schoolkids decide whether or not to teach their kids to look both ways before crossing the street. Let them decide whether or not to give their kids a shotgun for their 10th birthday, or let their 12-year-old take the golf cart for a spin when they visit. Let the parents of today's kids decide whether or not they should be inconvenienced by a mask so that they don't catch a deadly disease that they aren't eligible to vaccinate against yet.

Let them decide whether or not to let them play with fireworks in the back yard.

Let them decide whether or not to bring up irresponsible children who were never taught that common sense is a good thing to have, and that as members of civilization, they are expected to grow up to be civilized adults.

Y'all had your turn making those decisions for YOUR kids. If the generation failed, it's because you failed them. Now sit back and let them raise or kill their own children as they see fit.

banjobob 09-15-2021 04:44 AM

“Take this mask and shove it I ain’t wearin’n it no more “, sorta stole that from a Paycheck song lol

mrrmauu 09-15-2021 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003960)
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

This information is very relevant to a retirement community. <sarcasm>

Andyb 09-15-2021 04:52 AM

Masks are political statements, I demand this post to be shut down.

golfing eagles 09-15-2021 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mrrmauu (Post 2004108)
This information is very relevant to a retirement community. <sarcasm>

You're right---none of us have grandchildren <sarcasm>

Bhighley 09-15-2021 05:06 AM

CDC said masks didn’t work at protecting against covid before they said to wear a mask to prevent the spread of Covid.. cDc said you don’t need to wear a mask outside before they said to wear a mask outside. They said the vaccine worked at preventing Covid before they said the said the vaccine doesn’t prevent the spread of covid. Now we have to have the unvaccinated get vaccinated to protect the vaccinated… I believe the CDC as much as I believe CNN.

golfing eagles 09-15-2021 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhighley (Post 2004119)
CDC said masks didn’t work at protecting against covid before they said to wear a mask to prevent the spread of Covid.. cDc said you don’t need to wear a mask outside before they said to wear a mask outside. They said the vaccine worked at preventing Covid before they said the said the vaccine doesn’t prevent the spread of covid. Now we have to have the unvaccinated get vaccinated to protect the vaccinated… I believe the CDC as much as I believe CNN.

Then who DO you believe????? TOTV????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

thevillages2013 09-15-2021 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2004031)
Cold and flu was down because everyone was working from home, kids were zooming for classes and people finally figured out how to wash their hands...

Cold and flu was lower because much of it was misdiagnosed as Covid

Joe C. 09-15-2021 05:34 AM

If your eyeglasses fog up when wearing a mask, you might be eligible for condensation.:1rotfl:

Petersweeney 09-15-2021 05:42 AM

Your going to….
 
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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 2004129)
If your eyeglasses fog up when wearing a mask, you might be eligible for condensation.:1rotfl:

Live a long life brother!

KRMACK55 09-15-2021 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003960)
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

This statement about children and mask mandates is a joke right? The parents have the right not a mob not the masses etc.

KRMACK55 09-15-2021 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 2004018)
How about common sense for a change! If you think it's harmful to wear a mask then keep the kids home. This argument about masks is just nuts. Last years cold and flew season was a non event. Doesn't that tell you masks do some good? The Delta version was not around last year. It's something of a new ball game for those who would talk about last school year.

Reason why flus and colds weren’t reported is because feds media and others weren’t reporting them. There was heart disease cancer etc yet those weren’t reported. There is no contact tracing data nor true deaths as states were handed money to report Covid cases. Sounds like Alfred Hitchcock to me. Sheez

Byte1 09-15-2021 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003960)
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

This is a good one...:1rotfl:
Adults do not "wear masks properly" and yet children will.....:1rotfl:
Since we all agree that cloth and paper masks are of little value, I suppose you will also mandate that schools provide N95 masks for the children?
This is a slippery slope, even if it is taken seriously. First off, once you mandate a mask how will that mandate ever be lifted? Who will decide? Will a mask be mandated during flu season also, since more children are affected by the flu than by Covid? Will a mask mandate be enforced for anyone that has a cold?
Let the parents decide what they wish for their children and leave others out of it, ESPECIALLY the Feds. Not experts? Maybe not, but they are responsible for their own children, not other families' children.
I can see it now, high school kids are going to make out with their girlfriends with their masks on, smoke in the parking lot with their masks on, etc. Of course, you will say that this won't happen. Of course not, just like teens don't skip school or smoke weed...:1rotfl:
More gov control is not the answer (my opinion). Just because a few folks on here are "needy" and wish someone else to make decisions for them, not all Americans are dependent on others for decision making.
Masking may help, MAY HELP slow the progression of this biological warfare, but we are showing just as many infections today as we were almost a year ago. Delta variant? OK, so how many variants are we going to suffer through before someone decides to allow nature run it's course and that collateral damage is unavoidable?
Make the children suffer while attending school as they attempt to learn? Perhaps we can put police officers into the schools to enforce mask wearing?
If you are afraid of your kids catching the virus, then keep them home because a mask is not going to protect them. No one is banning masks in schools and parents can "mandate" their own children wearing masks.
Some adults are weak and dependent on the gov to make decisions for them. Some adults have no common sense or do not learn from history when it comes to gov control. Agreed upon rules and laws are good, but life is full of challenges and no one can completely protect you from all dangers.

Altavia 09-15-2021 06:07 AM

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Dzurinko 09-15-2021 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2003960)
A mask mandate for children in school is necessary to slow the spread of this Covid virus. Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose whether their child wears a mask in the classroom. That decision should not be up to the parents. Universal masking is effective only when EVERYONE (all the children and teachers) wears a mask in the classroom. Masks should be worn PROPERLY by covering the NOSE and MOUTH at all times. One reason why masking has not worked for us is that compliance of wearing masks properly is practically non existent.

This is what the CDC says about the effectiveness of Universal masking as source control.....

Science Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

I found THIS sentence in the original post very alarming coming from an American: “ Parents should not have the ability or freedom to choose..”. This says it all and accounts for many of the problems we’re seeing today in America.. Real Americans are willingly giving up their freedom and insist others do the same! I just couldn’t even get past that sentence!

Ski Bum 09-15-2021 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2004031)
Cold and flu was down because everyone was working from home, kids were zooming for classes and people finally figured out how to wash their hands...

I would add that it is not a good thing that kids (and adults) are not catching viruses and building immunities. If we isolate ourselves from everyday illnesses, after a period of time, we will be a very fragile society.

bonrich 09-15-2021 06:14 AM

Remember how many of us fought wearing seat belts? The usual remark, was it's my choice to wear a belt. Then some cars had the seat belt wrap around you when you started and now, "it's the law." Even though it's required, I wear a belt every time I am driving, put it on without thinking about it. Will we reach mask use to the level that seat belts are used? Maybe.............

Byte1 09-15-2021 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 2004018)
How about common sense for a change! If you think it's harmful to wear a mask then keep the kids home. This argument about masks is just nuts. Last years cold and flew season was a non event. Doesn't that tell you masks do some good? The Delta version was not around last year. It's something of a new ball game for those who would talk about last school year.

That's NOT common sense. Common sense says that IF you are scared of your child catching Covid, then KEEP HIM/HER home. Common sense says that a child wearing a mask is not going to continue to wear it properly for extended periods, if at all. Common sense says that if you believe other children are infected, then why send them into harm's way, even with a stupid cloth or paper mask?
The reason the cold and flu season was so low last year was NOT because of masks but because everyone was at home, hiding from the dreaded Covid. How many children caught Covid, died from Covid? Kind of hard for them to become infected by other students if they are "zooming" their lessons. Kind of hard for them to catch colds or the Flu.

nick demis 09-15-2021 06:20 AM

should not have the ability or freedom


FREEDOM is what makes this the United Stated of America. People should move to China or Russia if they don't want their FREEDOM.

airstreamingypsy 09-15-2021 06:24 AM

[QUOTE=OrangeBlossomBaby;2004068]Why should anyone in the Villages care about whether children are put in harm's way? Their kids are all grown.

These endless mask threads have nothing to do with The Villages, they are just ways to stir up you know what.

JMintzer 09-15-2021 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by heims01 (Post 2004037)
There's a prominent political figure in Florida arguing that last year shows that masking was not that important and so kids shouldn't be mandated to wear a mask in school. Does the fact that most kids weren't in school make that argument questionable ?

No, because they didn't learn anything, coming up on 2 years...

JMintzer 09-15-2021 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2004125)
Cold and flu was lower because much of it was misdiagnosed as Covid

Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!

DeeCee Dubya 09-15-2021 06:47 AM

Bean If I told you they were monsters underneath your bed, would you believe that too?

gweisheipl 09-15-2021 07:02 AM

Seriously
 
What about mandatory hand washing? What about mandatory tooth brushing? What about mandatory chap stick use? What about mandatory no kissing? You people are so hung up on face diapers that are never worn correctly. All Ridiculous! COVID is with us forever, so is mandatory mask wearing forever? Not for this guy!

Gunny2403 09-15-2021 07:07 AM

Rather than let you know explicitly what I think of you and your post, let’s just say I disagree with the entire post

Conniehar 09-15-2021 07:14 AM

You seriously believe the CDC? There was no flu last year because everything was classified as COVID. This is all such a joke! Masks don’t work! COVID is here to stay! Let the kids breathe!

Cheiro 09-15-2021 07:23 AM

Here, Here!! Am very pleased to see your posting, congratulations.

taruffi57 09-15-2021 07:32 AM

Way out of date info. Many experts and medical research studies disagree with your opinion. And besides, children are by far the least likely to have any serious consequences of COVID - due to their excellent natural immune system. We are now having multiple and serious side effects - even deaths, from the "vaccines". Medical personnel are refusing the jabs and even losing their jobs because they have seen the risks.

Bogie Shooter 09-15-2021 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunny2403 (Post 2004201)
Rather than let you know explicitly what I think of you and your post, let’s just say I disagree with the entire post

There are so many that this would apply to, which one did you mean?


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