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Bobcuse 03-09-2014 08:53 PM

Golf cart road rage altercation
 
My wife and I were in the car headed north on Morse Blvd around 4:25 pm today and as we came to a stop for the red light at the intersection at Rio Grande we witnessed a shocking and sad incident. Two golf carts were traveling north on Morse and one had moved into the right turning lane and the other was in the golf cart lane going straight. We didn't notice anything unusual until we heard the screech of tires as the cart going straight slammed on his breaks to avoid striking the cart in front of him. At the same time, the cart in the turning lane suddenly stopped right next to that cart and the driver jumped out and reached into the first cart and tried to grab and strike the driver. He was yelling something but we couldn't hear what they said. The driver being attacked jumped out of his cart and ran around in front of his cart and confronted the other man. They both raised their fists and the original aggressor took a couple of swings but the other man moved back and said something like "I don't want to fight" and "what did I do?" But the first man continue to be aggressive. The light changed and as we were pulling away (I couldn't pull over there) I could see them both rolling on the pavement. Other cars had stopped and we saw a police car coming down Morse so I assume it was stopped. Another case of apparent road rage gone bad. Very sad and disturbing to see this behavior on a public road here in TV.

2BNTV 03-09-2014 09:21 PM

:agree:

Easier to forget about it and go on your merry way. :smiley:

Why are so many peoople that uptight, as we are all retired.

LET IT BE. :popcorn:

manaboutown 03-09-2014 09:27 PM

Crayzeez fer shure!

gomoho 03-10-2014 07:10 AM

People are just plain losing their minds - must be the weather.

asianthree 03-10-2014 07:22 AM

Two old guys trying to fight..no wonder they ended up rolling around one the ground. .could not stay upright. .how sad they forget their age

TNLAKEPANDA 03-10-2014 07:31 AM

Gee I wonder if anyone had been drinking?

CFrance 03-10-2014 07:52 AM

I don't understand the positioning of those golf carts. I thought at an intersection all golf carts had to exit the golf cart lane and position themselves in the traffic lanes. So the one going straight in the golf cart lane... shouldn't he have been in the traffic lane going straight?

KathieI 03-10-2014 07:58 AM

At Morse and Rio Grande it is a very different type of traffic pattern. There is a right hand turn lane for cars and carts and to the left of it is a golf cart lane to go straight. Its kinda confusing and very different than other streets in TV.

CFrance 03-10-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KathieI (Post 842827)
At Morse and Rio Grande it is a very different type of traffic pattern. There is a right hand turn lane for cars and carts and to the left of it is a golf cart lane to go straight. Its kinda confusing and very different than other streets in TV.

Oh.

Bay Kid 03-10-2014 08:05 AM

Too much TV! Sorry, I had to say that. Why can't we all just get along?

graciegirl 03-10-2014 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 842817)
Gee I wonder if anyone had been drinking?



Ya think?

missypie 03-10-2014 08:56 AM

This is so sad. :pray:

redwitch 03-10-2014 09:22 AM

And we're assuming this is golf cart rage. It could have just as easily been something between the two men that had been festering for awhile or something that occurred at a restaurant or bar. Who knows?

Regardless, what an ugly thing to have witnessed in TV. Sometimes we really don't live up to our image, do we?

Golfingnut 03-10-2014 09:36 AM

Wow

nitehawk 03-10-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobcuse (Post 842684)
My wife and I were in the car headed north on Morse Blvd around 4:25 pm today and as we came to a stop for the red light at the intersection at Rio Grande we witnessed a shocking and sad incident. Two golf carts were traveling north on Morse and one had moved into the right turning lane and the other was in the golf cart lane going straight. We didn't notice anything unusual until we heard the screech of tires as the cart going straight slammed on his breaks to avoid striking the cart in front of him. At the same time, the cart in the turning lane suddenly stopped right next to that cart and the driver jumped out and reached into the first cart and tried to grab and strike the driver. He was yelling something but we couldn't hear what they said. The driver being attacked jumped out of his cart and ran around in front of his cart and confronted the other man. They both raised their fists and the original aggressor took a couple of swings but the other man moved back and said something like "I don't want to fight" and "what did I do?" But the first man continue to be aggressive. The light changed and as we were pulling away (I couldn't pull over there) I could see them both rolling on the pavement. Other cars had stopped and we saw a police car coming down Morse so I assume it was stopped. Another case of apparent road rage gone bad. Very sad and disturbing to see this behavior on a public road here in TV.

and you could not have put your car in "park" and tried to stop the incident or at least be a witness to what had happened ----and told police what you observed ---i do not understand why some people will take the time to write about an incident but yet not get involved when there involvement could have made a difference in the outcome ----

red tail 03-10-2014 09:50 AM

stop in the middle of the road on an active highway......really!!!!! more totv wisdom

graciegirl 03-10-2014 09:52 AM

Look. It is shocking for a lot of us to see people hitting each other. I have never in my whole life witnessed a fight between two angry adults personally where they hit each other.

red tail 03-10-2014 09:57 AM

the top rated cities for road rage
1. new York
2. dallas
3. detroit

janmcn 03-10-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 842900)
and you could not have put your car in "park" and tried to stop the incident or at least be a witness to what had happened ----and told police what you observed ---i do not understand why some people will take the time to write about an incident but yet not get involved when there involvement could have made a difference in the outcome ----


Here in the gunshine state, one never knows when the bullets will start flying.

nitehawk 03-10-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by red tail (Post 842908)
stop in the middle of the road on an active highway......really!!!!! more totv wisdom

copy "My wife and I were in the car headed north on Morse Blvd around 4:25 pm today and as we came to a stop for the red light at the intersection at Rio Grande we witnessed a shocking and sad incident. " in the middle of an active highway ------ if you would read the OP---WOW i rest my case ------:pepper2::pepper2:

Madelaine Amee 03-10-2014 10:07 AM

Unfortunately, golf cart road rage happens quite regularly in my quiet little area. We are close to a golf cart path in the area of Glenview CC and the language, the fingers being thrown, people screaming at each other, happens most days. The people who live opposite the golf cart cut through sit out and get their entertainment from the stupidity of the golf cart road rage! We are supposed to be adults!

NotGolfer 03-10-2014 10:19 AM

TWICE I've had the "luck" to be verbally (abused) by individuals, swearing and yelling because the golf cart I was in, wasn't doing what they thought should be happening. One time it was because I was in a cart waiting, at a stop sigh, for heavy traffic to pass on the street but someone behind thought we should put our lives in peril just so he could continue on his way. The other time was because the golf-cart was going the legal speed (19.5.) while his was a souped up version and he thought he needed to be somewhere so he threw a tantrum in his "adult version" of swearing and name-calling and hand-flailing. I'm sure these folks would make their mom's proud with behaviours like that....not to say spouses, kids and grandkids!!

TexaninVA 03-10-2014 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobcuse (Post 842684)
My wife and I were in the car headed north on Morse Blvd around 4:25 pm today and as we came to a stop for the red light at the intersection at Rio Grande we witnessed a shocking and sad incident. Two golf carts were traveling north on Morse and one had moved into the right turning lane and the other was in the golf cart lane going straight. We didn't notice anything unusual until we heard the screech of tires as the cart going straight slammed on his breaks to avoid striking the cart in front of him. At the same time, the cart in the turning lane suddenly stopped right next to that cart and the driver jumped out and reached into the first cart and tried to grab and strike the driver. He was yelling something but we couldn't hear what they said. The driver being attacked jumped out of his cart and ran around in front of his cart and confronted the other man. They both raised their fists and the original aggressor took a couple of swings but the other man moved back and said something like "I don't want to fight" and "what did I do?" But the first man continue to be aggressive. The light changed and as we were pulling away (I couldn't pull over there) I could see them both rolling on the pavement. Other cars had stopped and we saw a police car coming down Morse so I assume it was stopped. Another case of apparent road rage gone bad. Very sad and disturbing to see this behavior on a public road here in TV.


This is never good but happens more often than any of us would like to see.

We can indeed safely assume there was probably some alcohol involved ...but what other factors explain this kind of idiotic behavior??

-- crotchety old people?
-- some level of early dementia?
-- used to driving a certain way in NYC or something?
-- some people are just plain obnoxious?

DonH57 03-10-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 842935)
TWICE I've had the "luck" to be verbally (abused) by individuals, swearing and yelling because the golf cart I was in, wasn't doing what they thought should be happening. One time it was because I was in a cart waiting, at a stop sigh, for heavy traffic to pass on the street but someone behind thought we should put our lives in peril just so he could continue on his way. The other time was because the golf-cart was going the legal speed (19.5.) while his was a souped up version and he thought he needed to be somewhere so he threw a tantrum in his "adult version" of swearing and name-calling and hand-flailing. I'm sure these folks would make their mom's proud with behaviours like that....not to say spouses, kids and grandkids!!

You are not alone my friend. I've had a few of these instances because I was doing what I'm suppose to do behind the wheel of our cart.

wendyquat 03-10-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 842925)
copy "My wife and I were in the car headed north on Morse Blvd around 4:25 pm today and as we came to a stop for the red light at the intersection at Rio Grande we witnessed a shocking and sad incident. " in the middle of an active highway ------ if you would read the OP---WOW i rest my case ------:pepper2::pepper2:

But, I would guess if they had STOPPED it might have caused ANOTHER incident! I don't know if you've noticed but if you don't move ahead IMMEDIATELY the horns will start to blare! Us southerners aren't used to all this impatience!

wendyquat 03-10-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 842935)
TWICE I've had the "luck" to be verbally (abused) by individuals, swearing and yelling because the golf cart I was in, wasn't doing what they thought should be happening. One time it was because I was in a cart waiting, at a stop sigh, for heavy traffic to pass on the street but someone behind thought we should put our lives in peril just so he could continue on his way. The other time was because the golf-cart was going the legal speed (19.5.) while his was a souped up version and he thought he needed to be somewhere so he threw a tantrum in his "adult version" of swearing and name-calling and hand-flailing. I'm sure these folks would make their mom's proud with behaviours like that....not to say spouses, kids and grandkids!!

Been there, done that, too many times! What on earth is the hurry?

graciegirl 03-10-2014 11:56 AM

Not Golfer, I was in a similar situation, waiting at a stop sign to pull out in my golf cart when another golf cart didn't pause and went around me. I noticed he was a Yankee fan.

CFrance 03-10-2014 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 842922)
Here in the gunshine state, one never knows when the bullets will start flying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitehawk (Post 842900)
and you could not have put your car in "park" and tried to stop the incident or at least be a witness to what had happened ----and told police what you observed ---i do not understand why some people will take the time to write about an incident but yet not get involved when there involvement could have made a difference in the outcome ----

I would no more get into the middle of a road-rage fight between two adults than go rob a bank. What a stupid thing to do! There most certainly might be a gun or two, and who's to say the witness was strong enough to stop a fight without getting hurt?

Calling the police is the right thing to do.

CFrance 03-10-2014 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 842928)
Unfortunately, golf cart road rage happens quite regularly in my quiet little area. We are close to a golf cart path in the area of Glenview CC and the language, the fingers being thrown, people screaming at each other, happens most days. The people who live opposite the golf cart cut through sit out and get their entertainment from the stupidity of the golf cart road rage! We are supposed to be adults!

If I lived where you do, Madelaine Amee, I'd be tempted to get one of those portable boat air horns. Blast away when the screaming starts.

Kahuna32162 03-10-2014 12:04 PM

From another thread, it was suggested that carts have some kind of identification sticker to be able to report these kinds of incidents to the authorities. I, at first, thought this was an un necessary thing, now, I'm not so sure.

DonH57 03-10-2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 843008)
If I lived where you do, Madelaine Amee, I'd be tempted to get one of those portable boat air horns. Blast away when the screaming starts.

I don't have an air horn but I turn up my tunes to drown them out.

DDoug 03-10-2014 02:39 PM

Put a bunch of rats in a small cage they will fight each other to the death.Not saying people are rats. Used to do that for entertainment on the farm.

Madelaine Amee 03-10-2014 02:53 PM

The thing that really concerns me is the sheer ignorance that really does abound in TV. For some reason or other I got the impression that we were reasonably nice people, but unfortunately there is a huge slice of the population here who are not nice at all. They are rude, abusive and almost out of control. If any of you ever have to travel through the gate onto 101 passing the big white church on the corner, do you remember when a group of people took exception to the STOP signs which were painted on the posts at the driveways into and out of the church? Remember that every day TV would paint the STOP sign on the post and the "night" people would come along and paint over it, this happened night after night. Finally, TV had to put small metal plates on the posts which are screwed on and I even think they painted over them one night. This type of crazy thinking is far more prevalent than one would believe, it is beyond my comprehension.

I was under the impression the majority of us came here to get out of the rat race and to spend our retirement years living in the peace and quiet of this beautiful community - seems I was wrong.

eweissenbach 03-10-2014 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 842922)
Here in the gunshine state, one never knows when the bullets will start flying.

post of the day!
Quote:

Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 843095)
Put a bunch of rats in a small cage they will fight each other to the death.Not saying people are rats. Used to do that for entertainment on the farm.

NOT post of the day!

Big O 03-10-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 843104)
The thing that really concerns me is the sheer ignorance that really does abound in TV. For some reason or other I got the impression that we were reasonably nice people, but unfortunately there is a huge slice of the population here who are not nice at all. They are rude, abusive and almost out of control. If any of you ever have to travel through the gate onto 101 passing the big white church on the corner, do you remember when a group of people took exception to the STOP signs which were painted on the posts at the driveways into and out of the church? Remember that every day TV would paint the STOP sign on the post and the "night" people would come along and paint over it, this happened night after night. Finally, TV had to put small metal plates on the posts which are screwed on and I even think they painted over them one night. This type of crazy thinking is far more prevalent than one would believe, it is beyond my comprehension.

I was under the impression the majority of us came here to get out of the rat race and to spend our retirement years living in the peace and quiet of this beautiful community - seems I was wrong.

I don't think it is a very large percentage of The Villages population that falls into this category but their actions have a large impact on the rest of us. I am fortunate that I have not been affected by cart rage since I have been here. I have however been almost nailed by drunks in carts.

BobnBev 03-10-2014 04:48 PM

old
 
Just a couple of old fools showing off what little testosterone
they have left.:jester::jester:

Bogie Shooter 03-10-2014 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 843095)
Put a bunch of rats in a small cage they will fight each other to the death.Not saying people are rats. Used to do that for entertainment on the farm.

Entertainment???

Mr.Big 03-10-2014 07:34 PM

Cart rage in The Villages
 
After reading this, I am thinking about starting "Tough Men Contests" in the Town Squares. Find out who the toughest old fart is in The Villages!:pepper2::pepper2:

DonH57 03-10-2014 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Big (Post 843254)
After reading this, I am thinking about starting "Tough Men Contests" in the Town Squares. Find out who the toughest old fart is in The Villages!:pepper2::pepper2:

That very well may be pretty entertaining.:beer3:

Bonny 03-10-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 843095)
Put a bunch of rats in a small cage they will fight each other to the death.Not saying people are rats. Used to do that for entertainment on the farm.

Sorry. but that's some pretty "sad" entertainment !! :ohdear:


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