Margaret "Peggy" Klemm gets 180 days.
 

Villages sexcapade nets woman 180 days in jail - Daily Commercial: News

The sentence for Mrs. Kleem was today. Personally I agree with the prosecutor Tiny Smith that this was in a family public place. If they had been out on a golf course on a golf cart at 10:30 PM far from prying eyes, I would have expected the cops would just have told them to get dressed and move on. Families coming out of the Old Mill Playhouse might have seen them.

If I was the prosecutor I would change my name.

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I am not so sure about this. For me, the only victims in this case were the two people engaged in the act and their families. No one was physically hurt, no property was destroyed.

We all hear so much about equality these days. Does the results of this crime match the impact of those who break and enter your homes? Not for me. And yet those folks get a fine, a slap on the wrist and maybe probation.

Should these two have gotten some type of fine or punishment? Yes, but based on other crimes and the punishment received, I think this was over kill.

As always, I agree with you. She is one fortunate woman to have a husband to stand behind her and beside her. My prayers are for him, poor guy.

Not sure you can compare crimes and punishments like that. Some --like this one in a huge retirement community with many visiting grandkids in a public square at 10:30 PM at night. If this had been at 3:30 AM, it would probably be a very different sentence as no one but the Community Watch driver and some feral cats are around.

I do agree a sentence of alcoholic treatment would be better served but we do not know this woman's prior history of such treatments. Some people will not help themselves with respect to alcoholism. It does take a conscious effort to stop drinking which sometimes jail is the only solution to prevent more drinking.

Thank goodness nobody was physically hurt, but as someone on here might have hinted; there was a good chance some family coming out of the Old Mill Playhouse could have been disturbed with seeing this act.

I feel we hear so much about equality for certain groups of people these days, I try not to confuse that with equality for all.

I agree that the punishment seemed harsh when compared to your description of what the burglar has gotten...My gut reaction is; she got a just sentence and the burglar did not get what he/she deserved. So why don't we focus and complain about the sentence being too light for the burglars instead?

A big waste of tax dollars and jail space! Have them do community services, but don't put them in jail.

Just curious. Where does one serve their time for this sort of sentence? Never mind...I just reread the article and it says Sumter a County jail.

In the article, her husband says that this is the first time that she's ever been in trouble. I understand that she had two recent DUIs. Is that not being in trouble?

Of course none of us who weren't there know exactly what happened, but I have to wonder if they gave the arresting officers a bad time. If so, that may have influenced the judge in terms of sentencing. And don't forget, she was given a break here but getting "concurrent" 180 day sentences for this and for the DUI. Does anyone know how much time she will actually spend in jail? Often entire sentences are not served out in these kind of cases.

As far as damage done, I agree that no one was hurt and no property was damaged, but I do feel that a lot of damage was done to the reputation of our wonderful community. Could that have possibly been a factor in the sentencing?

Of course she should get help for alcoholism. But having a disease does not excuse bad or illegal behavior. You can't go out and commit a crime and be let off easy just by saying, "I'm an alcoholic". In fact one of the things preached by AA is that you have to take responsibility for your own actions. In fact loved ones of alcoholics are also taught not to give alcoholics a break and to allow the the dignity of suffering the consequences of their actions. The sentence may be the best thing that ever happened to her.

it looks like a case of 'bible belt justice'...I agree with the poster that said this is overkill!!

Please don't miss the point that this is a plea deal. She agreed to this sentence rather than face a full trial.

lets hope the judge doesn't get reelected. he is lacking in compassion.

Whew! I feel much safer now. Much less chance of seeing any exposed genitals in my wanderings about The Villages.
Wouldn't want any grand kids to be scarred for life by seeing human body parts.

If she had the wherewithal to get a top notch lawyer she would have been out on bond and no jail time.

She was concurrently sentenced 90 days for violation of probation, 180 for exposure of genital organs and 60 for disorderly conduct according to the online V news. The sentence seems appropriate to me in lieu of her priors.

As for burglars merely getting their hands slapped, they are being ridiculously under sentenced. If they commit the crime they should do the time. That is why such individuals keep committing felonies. They know they will get away with it, even when caught.

But it's okay to see Uncle Drunk stumbling through the town square or plowing his golf cart into a tree! I love all the ugly comments directed at this poor lady, yet the same people will be sitting in a pew come Sunday.

"there was a good chance some family coming out of the Old Mill Playhouse could have been emotionally scarred."

any kids old enough to be out that late have probably already accessed plenty of stuff on the internet that would turn our hair gray. I shouldn't be too worried about mental stress caused by seeing an old couple at it in public.



" I do feel that a lot of damage was done to the reputation of our wonderful community."

since TV already has the reputation of being the community with the highest rate of sexually transmitted diseases, I'm sure a bit of free love isn't going to move us up or down any ranking of morality

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We will have to see how this couple are sentenced.

And I am not so sure that many would agree that what you see on the Internet or on TV or at the movies has the same kind of impact as what you see right in front of you. Kids visiting from CA may also still be on CA time so younger kids might be coming out of the Old Mill Playhouse later.

There is no way they could have given her less time than him.

They could do worse. Lot of folks here who do not need to be criticized go to church and a lot who are far from perfect go too.

Tired of this anti-religious STUFF.
P.S. I don't go to church, but there isn't anything wrong with it and a whole lot right.

Pick on criminals and leave the church people alone.

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Originally Posted by dirtbanker (Post 916230) Thank goodness nobody was physically hurt, but as Gracie pointed out there was a good chance some family coming out of the Old Mill Playhouse could have been emotionally scarred.

You have misquoted me. I did NOT say this. I get into enough trouble all by myself.

That does seem fair. Now if this couple were in their car rocking it away parked in Lake Sumter Landing, this probably would have gone a different way-- I hope-- with the cops just telling them to find a less public place. That's what lover's lanes are for.

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I believe I said something like that. Just that kids might get upset, not emotionally scared. Old Mill Playhouse is open rather late at certain times of the year and they do show kids' movies.

If I remember correctly, she was also arrested for a DUI, about two weeks prior to her sexcapade at the town square, and she was drunk again, to the point, where she could not be in control.

I think she may have had a lot of stress dealing with her very sick husband but she could have relieved her frustration, with a more constructive venue. At least, get a room.

She sure has revived the old rumor mill by letting people outside TV to think this is an orgy type place and giving some credence to the theory of spreading STD. That article failed to mention the spread of STD was no higher, than any other community in the USA, but that is was, an increased number.

I feel sorry for the shame the husband must be feeling, and what happens to his needing care, while she is serving her sentence. This has become a sad story for all those involved, who really need help, in whatever form that may take. IMHO

Joe. You keep me sane. So glad for people like you in my world. Great summary.

Peggy, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Saw her sentencing on the news. When she saw the camera was on her, she said "I love you" to her husband. Yea, right. Didn't love him enough to keep her pants on. I feel sorry for the husband's and family's public humiliation. She will never get a dime out of me. I do not want the world to judge TV by her example.

For some reason this reminds me of the Wilbur Mills/Fanne Foxe incident where he jumped into the Tidal Basin. Wilbur got himself to a treatment center in West Palm Beach, joined AA and apparently lived happily ever after. Wilbur was about 65 years of age at the time this incident occurred.

Hopefully Peggy, at age 68, will follow a similar path to recovery. From statements quoted in news articles she has the support of her family. Perhaps it is never too late. I just hope she does not get out there, drunk drive as she has in the past, and cause a serious accident.

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I had forgotten about that scandal.

A family can only do so much.

This biggest hurdle to Alcoholics is the enablers..... Those who continue to say he/she made a mistake. I am not without compassion for this family but being arrested twice in four days? I always say the first time we make a mistake. The second time we do it, it's a choice.

I feel so much safer now too!!!

What they did was inappropriate, but far from leaving anyone "Emotionally Scarred".

The punishment was definitely an overkill, considering the sentences that some real criminals get.

She should have pleaded insanity. "I was just crazy about that boy!" should have been her defense.

(thanks to Cheech and Chong so I won't be accused of plagiarizing).

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Alcoholism is not a choice. This women clearly needs rehab rather than jail. Hope she gets the help she needs and stops living on that merry-go-round.

Sorry but forgot to add, that I have known several people who got DUI's but they didn't travel down that road again as they learned their lesson. They only excuse Peggy can have had is............ fill in the blank.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Being totally drunk twice to have the police involved, indicated a serious emotional problem that she needs to get serious, about curing herself.

I agree with BTK. It's :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

I once walked around a large granite monument in a public park in Chicago at night. I was 25 years old. I saw--would have stepped on them if I kept walking--two adults, about my age, humping like earthworms after a rainstorm.

If I could only "unsee".

It matter what the crime was, she broke the law and also her probation. I agree she needs help, but her family should have stepped up a long time ago and tried to help. Laws are not meant to be broken.

Mam, Please!!! I'm entitled to my opinion just as you are yours.

I can not speak for Sumter County Jail but most jails have a required AA program for those incarcerated on alcohol related offenses. I have a good friend who does a jail ministry in another state and those completing the AA 12 steps received time off their sentence. After they serve their time, it is their choice whether to drink again or not. Alcoholism is not a choice, but to drink or not drink IS a CHOICE.