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Guest 09-16-2015 07:51 AM

The Donald's Honesty.
 
Donald Trump Has A Massive PolitiFact Problem, And (Surprise) His Fans Don't Mind

This does not surprise me in the least. barf

Guest 09-16-2015 07:56 AM

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Interesting. In Hillary's case, it is probably easier to count to number of times that she has told the truth, than it is the number of times that she has lied.

Guest 09-16-2015 07:58 AM

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Interesting. In Hillary's case, it is probably easier to count to number of times that she has told the truth, than it is the number of times that she has lied.

:thumbup:

Guest 09-16-2015 07:59 AM

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Interesting. In Hillary's case, it is probably easier to count to number of times that she has told the truth, than it is the number of times that she has lied.

An amputee could count the number of times she has told the truth, on one hand.

Guest 09-16-2015 08:33 AM

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Interesting. In Hillary's case, it is probably easier to count to number of times that she has told the truth, than it is the number of times that she has lied.

BIG HUGE difference in the two.

First, I have been saying all along...Trump represents a total disaster for the Republican Party, but to even mention him in the same sentence is diluted thinking AT BEST.

While Trump is now "stretching the truth" to get attention, Ms Clinton has a record that actually defies the imagination.

Beginning back in Arkansas, she has been known, and factually reported on, as a nasty liar who is vindictive and mean.

I have been saying all along that Trump is screwing things up, but I might also add, that the only hope Trump will have should he ever get the nod is to run against Ms Clinton. Her track record...Trump has nine...is so poor, so riddled with controversy and bad judgement...and I have not even touched on he lying and cheating....that he would have open season in her.

Trump is bad.....Clinton escalates lying to anew threshold. There have been BOOKS written on her deceit....BOOKS, not truth-o-meters.

Guest 09-16-2015 08:40 AM

So Trump is bad in your opinion.....I guess you like to press 1 for ENGLISH!

Guest 09-16-2015 09:18 AM

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So Trump is bad in your opinion.....I guess you like to press 1 for ENGLISH!

And you want yet another President who tells untruths ?

And you want yet another President who will take shortcuts to feed what he wants ?

And you want yet another President who will embarrass us on state visits ?

And you want yet another President who will ignore our congress and go it on his own ?

And you want yet another President who will dismiss and demean ANYONE who disagree with him ?

I could go on, but you get the point.

We need a president who will be a statesman and understands we are a country of laws. LOUDNESS BRASHNESS does not get my vote. INSULTING OTHERS does not get my vote. UNAWARENESS OF CONTEXT AND ISSUES does not get my vote. DISRESPECT for anyone who does not agree does not get my vote.

Sorry he might have you all riled up but just look around...he is no different than what we have except he is much louder, and not as sly.

Our country, believe it or not, succeeds when all branches of it are honest and do the peoples work honestly with only our country in mind.

Guest 09-16-2015 09:32 AM

Has there ever been an election cycle where you didn't choose the best of the worst?

Guest 09-16-2015 09:35 AM

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And you want yet another President who tells untruths ?

And you want yet another President who will take shortcuts to feed what he wants ?

And you want yet another President who will embarrass us on state visits ?

And you want yet another President who will ignore our congress and go it on his own ?

And you want yet another President who will dismiss and demean ANYONE who disagree with him ?

I could go on, but you get the point.

We need a president who will be a statesman and understands we are a country of laws. LOUDNESS BRASHNESS does not get my vote. INSULTING OTHERS does not get my vote. UNAWARENESS OF CONTEXT AND ISSUES does not get my vote. DISRESPECT for anyone who does not agree does not get my vote.

Sorry he might have you all riled up but just look around...he is no different than what we have except he is much louder, and not as sly.

Our country, believe it or not, succeeds when all branches of it are honest and do the peoples work honestly with only our country in mind.

Press #1 for Trump or #2 for Hillary. Which would you press?

Guest 09-16-2015 09:36 AM

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And you want yet another President who tells untruths ?

And you want yet another President who will take shortcuts to feed what he wants ?

And you want yet another President who will embarrass us on state visits ?

And you want yet another President who will ignore our congress and go it on his own ?

And you want yet another President who will dismiss and demean ANYONE who disagree with him ?

I could go on, but you get the point.

We need a president who will be a statesman and understands we are a country of laws. LOUDNESS BRASHNESS does not get my vote. INSULTING OTHERS does not get my vote. UNAWARENESS OF CONTEXT AND ISSUES does not get my vote. DISRESPECT for anyone who does not agree does not get my vote.

Sorry he might have you all riled up but just look around...he is no different than what we have except he is much louder, and not as sly.

Our country, believe it or not, succeeds when all branches of it are honest and do the peoples work honestly with only our country in mind.

And therein is the problem. Our elected have formed their own political class that is focused on their personal needs and the needs of those special interest groups that contribute to their position. There has to be a candidate that does in fact believe in the rights and needs of the country and it's people. We cannot continue to allow the political class to conduct "their" business as usual with no or at best little regard for those who elected them in the first place.

Guest 09-16-2015 09:41 AM

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And therein is the problem. Our elected have formed their own political class that is focused on their personal needs and the needs of those special interest groups that contribute to their position. There has to be a candidate that does in fact believe in the rights and needs of the country and it's people. We cannot continue to allow the political class to conduct "their" business as usual with no or at best little regard for those who elected them in the first place.

...and Trump brags about how he has contributed money to all candidates so he can have favors.

Guest 09-16-2015 09:44 AM

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...and Trump brags about how he has contributed money to all candidates so he can have favors.

Don't you hate it when a celebrity tells the truth? Darn that man!

Guest 09-16-2015 09:52 AM

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And therein is the problem. Our elected have formed their own political class that is focused on their personal needs and the needs of those special interest groups that contribute to their position. There has to be a candidate that does in fact believe in the rights and needs of the country and it's people. We cannot continue to allow the political class to conduct "their" business as usual with no or at best little regard for those who elected them in the first place.

You don't have much choice. Every one of them is in someone's pocket. Just have to figure out which one closest resembles what you are looking for. America is not going to get perfect. There was only one perfect person that ever existed in the world. If you want a nice person, then you had better hang out in church. You're not going to get nice in D.C. And I don't want "nice." I want ruthless and shrewd right now. Someone that will tell the poor to get off their behinds and contribute to society instead of being leaches. No one criticized Biden for using the "F" word. They laughed. We need a little less PC and substitute manners instead.

Guest 09-16-2015 09:56 AM

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...and Trump brags about how he has contributed money to all candidates so he can have favors.

Does it bother you that special interest groups and lobbyists will seek special favors from Hillary in exchange for their campaign contributions?

Guest 09-16-2015 10:42 AM

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So very persuasive ... your brilliant post has convinced me to not vote for Trump, and instead just put up with the usual limp wristed BS and watch the country implode. Great idea ...

Guest 09-16-2015 11:00 AM

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So very persuasive ... your brilliant post has convinced me to not vote for Trump, and instead just put up with the usual limp wristed BS and watch the country implode. Great idea ...

:a20::a20::a20::a20:

Guest 09-16-2015 11:57 AM

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So very persuasive ... your brilliant post has convinced me to not vote for Trump, and instead just put up with the usual limp wristed BS and watch the country implode. Great idea ...

You really think there are not better Republican candidates than the Donald? If you look at his policies too he is not a conservative but wants a "HUGE" government which is going to put up a HUGE addition to the budget deficit. A 1900 mile wall and a great military. That will really make this country great again. What it will do is goad ISIS and other terrorists to target us even more as it will give them all kinds of rhetoric to get more recruits. Trump is a very ugly American.

Guest 09-16-2015 02:53 PM

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And you want yet another President who tells untruths ?

And you want yet another President who will take shortcuts to feed what he wants ?

And you want yet another President who will embarrass us on state visits ?

And you want yet another President who will ignore our congress and go it on his own ?

And you want yet another President who will dismiss and demean ANYONE who disagree with him ?

I could go on, but you get the point.

We need a president who will be a statesman and understands we are a country of laws. LOUDNESS BRASHNESS does not get my vote. INSULTING OTHERS does not get my vote. UNAWARENESS OF CONTEXT AND ISSUES does not get my vote. DISRESPECT for anyone who does not agree does not get my vote.

Sorry he might have you all riled up but just look around...he is no different than what we have except he is much louder, and not as sly.

Our country, believe it or not, succeeds when all branches of it are honest and do the peoples work honestly with only our country in mind.

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but your intelligence should be insulted by him if you can maintain a pulse. He is no different than any other pol, promising a lot of stuff he can't deliver.

Guest 09-16-2015 03:08 PM

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I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but your intelligence should be insulted by him if you can maintain a pulse. He is no different than any other pol, promising a lot of stuff he can't deliver.

I am a bit confused, but that is easy to do.

You responded to my post as if my post was in support of Donald Trump.

It was most certainly not. I consider him a blight, and he represents the only hurdle that the Republicans party must overcome to be in the WH.

Guest 09-16-2015 04:28 PM

Personally, I believe that Trump is not going to honor the "pledge" he took not to run as a third party candidate when the RNC chooses not to have him as the Republican nominee.

Trump will say it was just his way to get around an "illegal contract" and will use it to show how he can undo any Presidential order he deems an "illegal contract" in his mind.

Thus being said, in short, Trump will run, will siphon off votes from Republicans, and the Democrat gets to be President - again!

Guest 09-16-2015 06:17 PM

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Personally, I believe that Trump is not going to honor the "pledge" he took not to run as a third party candidate when the RNC chooses not to have him as the Republican nominee.

Trump will say it was just his way to get around an "illegal contract" and will use it to show how he can undo any Presidential order he deems an "illegal contract" in his mind.

Thus being said, in short, Trump will run, will siphon off votes from Republicans, and the Democrat gets to be President - again!

We can only hope! A jerk like that in the White House is every American's worst nightmare.

Guest 09-16-2015 06:34 PM

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You really think there are not better Republican candidates than the Donald? If you look at his policies too he is not a conservative but wants a "HUGE" government which is going to put up a HUGE addition to the budget deficit. A 1900 mile wall and a great military. That will really make this country great again. What it will do is goad ISIS and other terrorists to target us even more as it will give them all kinds of rhetoric to get more recruits. Trump is a very ugly American.

Given that you can actually say these actions would "goad ISIS" etc indicates you have no credibility to discuss this. They are acting in accordance with Islam 101 so how is standing up to them going to make it worse? WTF?? Have to shake my head at the cluelessness of some people.

On second thought, just get a prayer rug and learn to pray to Mecca.

Guest 09-16-2015 06:35 PM

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We can only hope! A jerk like that in the White House is every American's worst nightmare.

Given that we currently have a major league jerk in the White House, what exactly is your nightmare?

Guest 09-17-2015 05:57 AM

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Given that we currently have a major league jerk in the White House, what exactly is your nightmare?

:agree: :thumbup:

Guest 09-17-2015 06:56 AM

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Given that you can actually say these actions would "goad ISIS" etc indicates you have no credibility to discuss this. They are acting in accordance with Islam 101 so how is standing up to them going to make it worse? WTF?? Have to shake my head at the cluelessness of some people.

On second thought, just get a prayer rug and learn to pray to Mecca.

I see. Having a hothead in the White House will just calm all the other people in the world who have a hatred of the United States based on some very warped view of some major world religion. Try actually reading The Koran as well. What ISIS is doing with it is about the same as what Charles Manson did with Beatles' songs. Both have violence in them but both can be used as weapons for someone's very evil agenda.

I wish they had the poster's name on this so that I could know who is writing this very ugly and very unfair response.

I majored in religious studies at the University of Nevada, Reno. Earned two BAs in History and Philosophy at UNR. A MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver where a close friend of mine Mohammad Mahmood also was studying. I believe he worked at the University of Mosul Library. Mosul has been in ISIS's hands since 2014 or so. I also have a JD from the University of Minnesota Law School and have been a fighter for respect for survivors/victims of crimes and their informational needs since 1991 taking great risks with my reputation and career.

Guest 09-17-2015 08:11 AM

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We can only hope! A jerk like that in the White House is every American's worst nightmare.

Too late, the nightmare is already in there and has been in there for the past six years.

Guest 09-17-2015 09:14 AM

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I see. Having a hothead in the White House will just calm all the other people in the world who have a hatred of the United States based on some very warped view of some major world religion. Try actually reading The Koran as well. What ISIS is doing with it is about the same as what Charles Manson did with Beatles' songs. Both have violence in them but both can be used as weapons for someone's very evil agenda.

I wish they had the poster's name on this so that I could know who is writing this very ugly and very unfair response.

I majored in religious studies at the University of Nevada, Reno. Earned two BAs in History and Philosophy at UNR. A MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver where a close friend of mine Mohammad Mahmood also was studying. I believe he worked at the University of Mosul Library. Mosul has been in ISIS's hands since 2014 or so. I also have a JD from the University of Minnesota Law School and have been a fighter for respect for survivors/victims of crimes and their informational needs since 1991 taking great risks with my reputation and career.

My first reaction is … you really need to seek a refund on your education and degrees because it’s clear you didn’t learn much.

I have indeed read the Koran and studied the life / biographies of Mohammed and like you have multiple degrees. There are in effect two Korans, first one peaceful and second warlike. When Mohmand was in Mecca, he preached peace. However, after about 10 years of preaching he only had about 200 converts. He then got kicked out for being a pain in the butt and moved to Medina …i.e. the Hegira in 622AD. At that point, he snapped and because a warlord and wow, did that new strategy ever work! Gangbusters … he terrorized and killed people by the tens of thousands and his membership skyrocketed..

Most people don’t know, and this include you, that Mohammad was an epileptic which explains his “visions.” Like Charles Manson, Muhammad was a psychopathic killer. Ruthless and bloody. That’s what the ISIS leaders are trying to emulate and they are doing a good job of it … and that’s what I mean by Islam 101.

By the way, Muhammed was also child molester. He was betrothed to this second wife Aisha when she was six and then began sexual relations with her at age 9. Nice guy huh?

Guest 09-17-2015 09:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1115259)
I see. Having a hothead in the White House will just calm all the other people in the world who have a hatred of the United States based on some very warped view of some major world religion. Try actually reading The Koran as well. What ISIS is doing with it is about the same as what Charles Manson did with Beatles' songs. Both have violence in them but both can be used as weapons for someone's very evil agenda.

I wish they had the poster's name on this so that I could know who is writing this very ugly and very unfair response.

I majored in religious studies at the University of Nevada, Reno. Earned two BAs in History and Philosophy at UNR. A MA in Librarianship and Information Management from the University of Denver where a close friend of mine Mohammad Mahmood also was studying. I believe he worked at the University of Mosul Library. Mosul has been in ISIS's hands since 2014 or so. I also have a JD from the University of Minnesota Law School and have been a fighter for respect for survivors/victims of crimes and their informational needs since 1991 taking great risks with my reputation and career.

Sounds like something Taltarzac would say. He is always attempting to convince everyone of his credentials and expertise in all subjects too.

Politics is ugly. Get over it.

Guest 09-17-2015 09:52 AM

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My first reaction is … you really need to seek a refund on your education and degrees because it’s clear you didn’t learn much.

I have indeed read the Koran and studied the life / biographies of Mohammed and like you have multiple degrees. There are in effect two Korans, first one peaceful and second warlike. When Mohmand was in Mecca, he preached peace. However, after about 10 years of preaching he only had about 200 converts. He then got kicked out for being a pain in the butt and moved to Medina …i.e. the Hegira in 622AD. At that point, he snapped and because a warlord and wow, did that new strategy ever work! Gangbusters … he terrorized and killed people by the tens of thousands and his membership skyrocketed..

Most people don’t know, and this include you, that Mohammad was an epileptic which explains his “visions.” Like Charles Manson, Muhammad was a psychopathic killer. Ruthless and bloody. That’s what the ISIS leaders are trying to emulate and they are doing a good job of it … and that’s what I mean by Islam 101.

By the way, Muhammed was also child molester. He was betrothed to this second wife Aisha when she was six and then began sexual relations with her at age 9. Nice guy huh?

No doubt a pillar of the community.

If liberals continue to get their pacifistic way, we are going to end up in another Crusade. Muslims only respect power, not weakness. And talk without threats is considered weakness to them.

Guest 09-17-2015 09:58 AM

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Sounds like something Taltarzac would say. He is always attempting to convince everyone of his credentials and expertise in all subjects too.

Politics is ugly. Get over it.

Hardly all subjects.

And why do you not actually try doing some research before running your mouth? Would love to know whom I am speaking to?

I received 24 nominations to Marquis Who's Who publications from 1992 through 2002. A very hard thing to do with just the resources of a loving understanding family, 4 degrees, and the use of a computer. I actually think that Donald Trump might be someone who would appreciate my taking on the establishment with respect to practical materials in libraries for survivors/victims of crimes. My 224 613 Project. It always was easier to get some Republican supporters for this than the Democrats. Senator Orrin Hatch was one of the people who helped me out a bit.

Guest 09-17-2015 10:00 AM

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No doubt a pillar of the community.

If liberals continue to get their pacifistic way, we are going to end up in another Crusade. Muslims only respect power, not weakness. And talk without threats is considered weakness to them.

One could view the above as a cause to negate Obama being a muslim.

Or how would muslims view a weak muslim?

In the current case.....a blessing!

Guest 09-17-2015 10:01 AM

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My first reaction is … you really need to seek a refund on your education and degrees because it’s clear you didn’t learn much.

I have indeed read the Koran and studied the life / biographies of Mohammed and like you have multiple degrees. There are in effect two Korans, first one peaceful and second warlike. When Mohmand was in Mecca, he preached peace. However, after about 10 years of preaching he only had about 200 converts. He then got kicked out for being a pain in the butt and moved to Medina …i.e. the Hegira in 622AD. At that point, he snapped and because a warlord and wow, did that new strategy ever work! Gangbusters … he terrorized and killed people by the tens of thousands and his membership skyrocketed..

Most people don’t know, and this include you, that Mohammad was an epileptic which explains his “visions.” Like Charles Manson, Muhammad was a psychopathic killer. Ruthless and bloody. That’s what the ISIS leaders are trying to emulate and they are doing a good job of it … and that’s what I mean by Islam 101.

By the way, Muhammed was also child molester. He was betrothed to this second wife Aisha when she was six and then began sexual relations with her at age 9. Nice guy huh?

Do you have some credible links to this information?

Guest 09-17-2015 10:13 AM

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Do you have some credible links to this information?

Why ISIS Is Not, In Fact, Islamic | ThinkProgress

Saying you are Muslim while beheading someone, does not make that person a Muslim. Just a murderer.

Guest 09-17-2015 10:34 AM

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Why ISIS Is Not, In Fact, Islamic | ThinkProgress

Saying you are Muslim while beheading someone, does not make that person a Muslim. Just a murderer.

You genuinely do not understand Islamic history ... John Quincy Adams summarized in best almost 200 years ago when he said "...the essence of the Islamic doctrine is violence and lust ... to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature."

The PC crowd, such as Think Progress etc, likes to deny the obvious. Read your history. Mohammed was the Charles Manson of his age, except he had a huge army at his disposal. They killed or enslaved millions. His followers today are simply doing what they were instructed to do back in the 7th century AD.

Guest 09-17-2015 10:47 AM

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Hardly all subjects.

And why do you not actually try doing some research before running your mouth? Would love to know whom I am speaking to?

I received 24 nominations to Marquis Who's Who publications from 1992 through 2002. A very hard thing to do with just the resources of a loving understanding family, 4 degrees, and the use of a computer. I actually think that Donald Trump might be someone who would appreciate my taking on the establishment with respect to practical materials in libraries for survivors/victims of crimes. My 224 613 Project. It always was easier to get some Republican supporters for this than the Democrats. Senator Orrin Hatch was one of the people who helped me out a bit.

Ah, thought so. An ego only rivaled by Trump. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Guest 09-17-2015 11:11 AM

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One could view the above as a cause to negate Obama being a muslim.

Or how would muslims view a weak muslim?

In the current case.....a blessing!

:agree:

Guest 09-17-2015 11:46 AM

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I am a bit confused, but that is easy to do.

You responded to my post as if my post was in support of Donald Trump.

It was most certainly not. I consider him a blight, and he represents the only hurdle that the Republicans party must overcome to be in the WH.

My apologies, I hit the wrong reply button. Your post was correct

Guest 09-17-2015 12:00 PM

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Ah, thought so. An ego only rivaled by Trump. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

That's really funny. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Guest 09-17-2015 12:03 PM

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You genuinely do not understand Islamic history ... John Quincy Adams summarized in best almost 200 years ago when he said "...the essence of the Islamic doctrine is violence and lust ... to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature."

The PC crowd, such as Think Progress etc, likes to deny the obvious. Read your history. Mohammed was the Charles Manson of his age, except he had a huge army at his disposal. They killed or enslaved millions. His followers today are simply doing what they were instructed to do back in the 7th century AD.

THat was 200 years ago. This is like judging the Christian and Judaic Religions by cherry picking [I]The Bible[/]. There are probably a billion peaceful Muslims.

Guest 09-17-2015 12:04 PM

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That was 200 years ago. This is like judging the Christian and Judaic Religions by cherry picking The Bible. There are probably a billion peaceful Muslims.

Correction.


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