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gerryann 09-27-2015 07:21 PM

Villages ladies packing??
 
I have a question for the fine people on TOTV. Recently there was a posting on Facebook regarding carrying guns. I'm not looking for any nasty comments. I'm just concerned about a statement that a person posted and I want to know if any of you believe it to be true. If it is true, it bothers me tremendously. I don't like the idea of drunk ladies "packing" a gun in their purse. I will quote exactly what was posted. By drunk, I am referring to the squares, not the stores. This is the quote:

"Most of the woman I know in TV carry a gun (packing) in their purse in the squares, Walmart, supermarket...drug store...movies...maybe that is why you feel so safe in TV. You have no idea who has a gun and who doesn't. You live in the south. It is for your safety as well as theirs. No one advertises that they are packing, but I assure you if you believe that most Villagers, especially retired military don't have a gun, you are very very naive"


I am only curious if this "lady" is off her rocker or if you believe that there are a lot of females with pistols in their purses? Opinions? ......and Gracie, I don't mean water pistols. :)

tomwed 09-27-2015 07:35 PM

I tried finding the quote in Facebook. Could you point me to the page?

bagboy 09-27-2015 07:42 PM

I think most likely there are a few. I doubt the percentage is disproportionate to anywhere else. That's just my opinion of course.

gerryann 09-27-2015 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1120590)
I tried finding the quote in Facebook. Could you point me to the page?

It's in a thread about Coyotes. I don't want to name the person who started the thread for his privacy. It's in the regular Villages Facebook page. I also won't name the "lady" who made the comment. (At least I won't name her here)

Fred R 09-27-2015 07:52 PM

If a resident has a concealed carry permit, or a concealed carry from a state that has reciprocity with Florida there is no reason why they can't carry a handgun. The purpose of concealed carry is just that.....concealed. As long as they follow the laws there shouldn't be any problem. The remainder of the population wouldn't even know it

gerryann 09-27-2015 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred R (Post 1120597)
If a resident has a concealed carry permit, or a concealed carry from a state that has reciprocity with Florida there is no reason why they can't carry a handgun. The purpose of concealed carry is just that.....concealed. As long as they follow the laws there shouldn't be any problem. The remainder of the population wouldn't even know it

I know this and I get it. I simply question that so many seniors in TV carry, that's all.

I guess maybe this person who made the statement hangs out with the same personality type as she is, so it would make sense that most everyone that she associates with carries a weapon in their purse.

tomwed 09-27-2015 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1120595)
It's in a thread about Coyotes. I don't want to name the person who started the thread for his privacy. It's in the regular Villages Facebook page. I also won't name the "lady" who made the comment. (At least I won't name her here)

I didn't know there was a village facebook page. I tend to avoid that site. I don't want anymore information about who said what. I found the Facebook home page. thank-you

To answer your question, I have no idea.

Chatbrat 09-27-2015 08:25 PM

We can't run, we can't fight anymore & we represent vulnerabality-- therefore;we carry

Jima64 09-27-2015 08:28 PM

Has anyone read about any "drunk ladies" going Jessie James and popplng off a few rounds. I'm more worried with drunk drivers. I like the idea of citizens carrying.

dbussone 09-27-2015 08:33 PM

Villages ladies packing??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1120601)
I know this and I get it. I simply question that so many seniors in TV carry, that's all.



I guess maybe this person who made the statement hangs out with the same personality type as she is, so it would make sense that most everyone that she associates with carries a weapon in their purse.


GA - Why do you question? It's a constitutional right. If your assumption is that everyone who associates with an individual who has a CWP, has a CWP also, seems a strange extrapolation to me. Have I misunderstood you?

Golden Years 09-27-2015 08:43 PM

I think it's great people in the villages are armed. It helps keep the crime down. I would hate for everyone to think with all the senior citizens live there it's easy picking. I am sure it makes criminals a little uneasy knowing they get caught committing a crime in the villages and they could end up looking like swiss cheese.

Callaway Guy 09-27-2015 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1120608)
We can't run, we can't fight anymore & we represent vulnerabality-- therefore;we carry

Ditto; we don't leave home without them. We'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. In TV, we're not concerned, but there is a lot of trash that lives on the fringes of TV.

gerryann 09-27-2015 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1120612)
GA - Why do you question? It's a constitutional right. If your assumption is that everyone who associates with an individual who has a CWP, has a CWP also, seems a strange extrapolation to me. Have I misunderstood you?

I'm not questioning anything. I'm fully aware that it is their right. The person that made the statement claims that most every lady she knows carry a a gun in their purse. I was simply wondering if anyone feels that this may be a true statement? Unlike a lot of you, I think that if a female carries a gun, she makes her friends aware of it...not the general public...her friends. I guess just the thought of elderly females walking around Walmart with a gun is unsettling.

I think the moderator should probably put this thread to bed. Too many gun righters need to comment. That's not what I was looking for. Carry on....after all it's your right. :)

JoMar 09-27-2015 09:00 PM

So is the assumption that you are ok with drunk men packing?

gerryann 09-27-2015 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1120630)
So is the assumption that you are ok with drunk men packing?

That's a mature comment.

I'm not ok with anyone drunk having a gun on there person or purse.

tomwed 09-27-2015 09:12 PM

I don't know the answer to this question.
How many innocent bystanders or guilty perpetrators have been shot by Villagers?
There are many things to worry about that we know about first hand.

dbussone 09-27-2015 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1120628)
I'm not questioning anything. I'm fully aware that it is their right. The person that made the statement claims that most every lady she knows carry a a gun in their purse. I was simply wondering if anyone feels that this may be a true statement? Unlike a lot of you, I think that if a female carries a gun, she makes her friends aware of it...not the general public...her friends. I guess just the thought of elderly females walking around Walmart with a gun is unsettling.



I think the moderator should probably put this thread to bed. Too many gun righters need to comment. That's not what I was looking for. Carry on....after all it's your right. :)


I apologize if you thought I was being pushy. I just wanted to understand your point

And I guess I do from your comment "unlike a lot of you"...

I thought a simple question might be answered simply as well. There was no political intent to my post.

JoMar 09-27-2015 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1120633)
That's a mature comment.

I'm not ok with anyone drunk having a gun on there person or purse.

Then why was the post focused on women?

gerryann 09-27-2015 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1120652)
Then why was the post focused on women?

I was quoting what someone said to me. I didn't say it.

borjo 09-27-2015 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1120630)
So is the assumption that you are ok with drunk men packing?

Anyone purchasing alcoholic drinks in a bar and packing is against the law. Florida Concealed Weapon or Firearm License Application, 790.06, (12)(a). Cannot carry a concealed weapon or firearm into: #12." Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose".
There's quite a lot of responsibility that accompanies a concealed weapons permit. I doubt there are many "drunk men packing". But then again, there's always the bad guys.

Barefoot 09-28-2015 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1120628)
The person that made the statement claims that most every lady she knows carry a a gun in their purse. I was simply wondering if anyone feels that this may be a true statement?

I don't carry a gun in my purse and I don't know anyone who does.

Chatbrat 09-28-2015 03:25 AM

Not a good thing to carry in your purse-carry on your person--also if you have any alcohol in your system & you're caught-you're in deep poop

redwitch 09-28-2015 04:12 AM

There are some women in TV that carry. In my circle of friends, I think I'm the only who does. If I think I'm going to have so much as one beer or glass of wine, my Glock is left at home or locked in the trunk of a car. My biggest concern with folks in a community such as TV carrying is the fear they will continue to carry if dementia or Alzheimer's begins. The combination of reduced mental faculties, anger issues involved with these diseases and a handy weapon is not a good combination to my mind.

Fredster 09-28-2015 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 1120587)
I have a question for the fine people on TOTV. Recently there was a posting on Facebook regarding carrying guns. I'm not looking for any nasty comments. I'm just concerned about a statement that a person posted and I want to know if any of you believe it to be true. If it is true, it bothers me tremendously. I don't like the idea of drunk ladies "packing" a gun in their purse. I will quote exactly what was posted. By drunk, I am referring to the squares, not the stores. This is the quote:

"Most of the woman I know in TV carry a gun (packing) in their purse in the squares, Walmart, supermarket...drug store...movies...maybe that is why you feel so safe in TV. You have no idea who has a gun and who doesn't. You live in the south. It is for your safety as well as theirs. No one advertises that they are packing, but I assure you if you believe that most Villagers, especially retired military don't have a gun, you are very very naive"


I am only curious if this "lady" is off her rocker or if you believe that there are a lot of females with pistols in their purses? Opinions? ......and Gracie, I don't mean water pistols. :)

You can't believe everything you read, especially
something posted on TOTV!

outlaw 09-28-2015 06:35 AM

Try asking some of your friends what they think about CC. You may be surprised who will say they do. Think of all the retired LEOs living in TV. Likely most of them CC. Think of all the Floridians that live here. A large portion of them probably CC. It's part of the culture in the south. Your concern regarding carrying drunk is valid. I'm sure it does happen just like drunk driving. I'm also pretty sure there are a lot of unauthorized CC going on around here.

outlaw 09-28-2015 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1120667)
I don't carry a gun in my purse and I don't know anyone who does.

Have you asked them? You may be surprised.

graciegirl 09-28-2015 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1120717)
Have you asked them? You may be surprised.



Women know what their friends do. Men don't share things like that but women do. No one in my circle of friends carry, but some neighbors have been trained to use a gun and own one. This is new to me. Only people who hunted owned guns that I knew growing up. I was very glad they were armed when the break in's started last year about this time.

I do want to add for the benefit of any new readers that only in one instance were their people in the house and that was at night and the villagers were unaware of anyone entering.(AND they had a dog) Some of the bad guys gained entry by kicking in the front door in broad daylight or removing a slider in the back...also during the day. I think they watched the homeowners leave.

ugotme 09-28-2015 07:58 AM

Quite frankly I do not know the answer to this.

I also do not believe the original person who authored the quote does not know either. It was stated that "most of the women she knows. . . " which tells us nothing.

There are a lot of people who post on here who either hear something or have feelings about something that state it is the truth. Just read all the posts about when the build out will be, what stores are coming here etc. etc.

IF you carry and IF you consume alcohol you are in violation.

I believe the OP on this post was merely asking a question and shouldn't be jumped on.

CFrance 09-28-2015 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borjo (Post 1120659)
Anyone purchasing alcoholic drinks in a bar and packing is against the law. Florida Concealed Weapon or Firearm License Application, 790.06, (12)(a). Cannot carry a concealed weapon or firearm into: #12." Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose".
There's quite a lot of responsibility that accompanies a concealed weapons permit. I doubt there are many "drunk men packing". But then again, there's always the bad guys.

Who's to know a person is carrying concealed in a bar unless that person pulls it out? In which case, it's too late to do anything about, because obviously that person is not in control of his or her actions.

asianthree 09-28-2015 08:17 AM

Very few that carry advertise. More women than men have conceal permits at work

Sable99 09-28-2015 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1120717)
Have you asked them? You may be surprised.

You are right. I was surprised to learn that a good friend of mine has a concealed carry permit. She is a senior but doesn't live in The Villages nor does she drink. It really surprised me that her husband doesn't have one.

It made sense after I thought about it. She dealt with a lot of unsavory issues before she retired and her husband didn't.

Wing-nut2 09-28-2015 08:28 AM

The Villages Straight Shooters conducts a Basic Pistol Course once a moth. The Basic Pistol course is 8 hours of training. This course goes far above the amount of information and training you wold receive at a gun show.

The next class is Oct 12th. The class on November 11th is a LADIES ONLY Class. Basic Pistol Safety - The Villages Straight Shooters Club should get you to the sign up page of The Straight Shooters.

xcaligirl 09-28-2015 09:01 AM

.....so a drunk female carrying is questionable however no mention of a drunk man carrying... hmmmmmm.

CFrance 09-28-2015 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 1120845)
.....so a drunk female carrying is questionable however no mention of a drunk man carrying... hmmmmmm.

As was pointed out, gerryann is responding to a Facebook post, and it was that poster who didn't mention men.

dave harris 09-28-2015 03:11 PM

Most of the gentlemen I see in The Villages wear tee type shirts and khaki type pants. How would they conceal?

graciegirl 09-28-2015 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 1120845)
.....so a drunk female carrying is questionable however no mention of a drunk man carrying... hmmmmmm.



Things like that never make me want to jump on them. I have always felt equal and see no reason to challenge that premise.

CFrance 09-28-2015 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave harris (Post 1121131)
Most of the gentlemen I see in The Villages wear tee type shirts and khaki type pants. How would they conceal?

Our friend (not in The Villages) wears long pants and a gun in an ankle holder. I think by the time he could get to it, it'd be all over. But I don't say that.

graciegirl 09-28-2015 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1121143)
Our friend (not in The Villages) wears long pants and a gun in an ankle holder. I think by the time he could get to it, it'd be all over. But I don't say that.



I always agree with people who have a gun.


I mean, I never have had to...but I would given the opportunity.

Barefoot 09-28-2015 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1120667)
I don't carry a gun in my purse and I don't know anyone who does.

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1120717)
Have you asked them? You may be surprised.

I doubt that I would be surprised, most of my women friends share personal information quite readily.
But asking a woman if she carries a concealed weapon - isn't that a bit like asking a man if he wears a toupee?

graciegirl 09-28-2015 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1121148)
I doubt that I would be surprised, most of my women friends share personal information quite readily.
But asking a woman if she carries a concealed weapon - isn't that a bit like asking a man if he wears a toupee?



No ...more like if he he's had a vastectomy. But as Boomer says. I digress.


I think it is fun to digress. We have talked about this stuff so often before outlaw arrived.


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