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Guest 03-25-2016 03:11 PM

Will this GOP embaressment ever stop?
 
My gosh, how can anyone actually wear a Trump or Cruz tshirt anywhere without feeling like a blustering fool. I guess i shouldnt be surprised as the GOP left no stone unturned with Obama, the nationality, the birth certificate, his religion, twking your guns ... Well welcome to the nightmare your party started with personal attacks and the lack of respect for the office of the presidency. The fight for your nomination finally did it, the wives, the affairs ... If it was not so pathetic I would sit back and just enjoy it. But instead of being ashamed you simply attack the president for not coming back to Washington for a terrorist attack in Europe. i guess Reagan not even stopping his vacation when Marines were killed in Beruit didnt count.

Party on Trump and Cruz supporters.

Guest 03-25-2016 03:22 PM

What I find surprising is the Fox News allegiance shift. I remember many people staunchly defending Fox as not being biased.
I also see the shift in the language. Locker room talk that all guys use is now perfectly acceptable anywhere.
I think people are angry because there kids or other young people they know are out of work or worse off then they were at their age. They don't know who to blame. We all know kids that have a BA, college debt and a crappy job. That's where a lot of my retirement money is going. What happened? My other children are doing extremely well.

Guest 03-25-2016 03:27 PM

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My gosh, how can anyone actually wear a Trump or Cruz tshirt anywhere without feeling like a blustering fool. I guess i shouldnt be surprised as the GOP left no stone unturned with Obama, the nationality, the birth certificate, his religion, twking your guns ... Well welcome to the nightmare your party started with personal attacks and the lack of respect for the office of the presidency. The fight for your nomination finally did it, the wives, the affairs ... If it was not so pathetic I would sit back and just enjoy it. But instead of being ashamed you simply attack the president for not coming back to Washington for a terrorist attack in Europe. i guess Reagan not even stopping his vacation when Marines were killed in Beruit didnt count.

Party on Trump and Cruz supporters.

Great post. One problem; you're using logic. Logic doesn't work with the fox viewing right wing wacko's in the Village (or most other places as well). They view the republican party as some would their home town football team. They're going to cheer for them no matter what they do. Unfortunately, they don't understand this is not a football game and we are/should be on the same side (The American People).

Maybe when we no longer have a black president they'll start thinking rationally........ah........ na. Scratch that. We'll have a woman president and if you think their panties were in a bunch now,with a black president, wait untill you see their behavior after Hillary is sworn in. Their heads will explode.:coolsmiley:

Guest 03-25-2016 03:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1203869)
My gosh, how can anyone actually wear a Trump or Cruz tshirt anywhere without feeling like a blustering fool. I guess i shouldnt be surprised as the GOP left no stone unturned with Obama, the nationality, the birth certificate, his religion, twking your guns ... Well welcome to the nightmare your party started with personal attacks and the lack of respect for the office of the presidency. The fight for your nomination finally did it, the wives, the affairs ... If it was not so pathetic I would sit back and just enjoy it. But instead of being ashamed you simply attack the president for not coming back to Washington for a terrorist attack in Europe. i guess Reagan not even stopping his vacation when Marines were killed in Beruit didnt count.

Party on Trump and Cruz supporters.


Have you forgotten about the B- Jobs in the White House and the cover ups and attacks on innocent women by the current Democratic candidate? Actions such as that speak louder than words in a trashy publication

Guest 03-25-2016 03:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1203880)
Great post. One problem; you're using logic. Logic doesn't work with the fox viewing right wing wacko's in the Village (or most other places as well). They view the republican party as some would their home town football team. They're going to cheer for them no matter what they do. Unfortunately, they don't understand this is not a football game and we are/should be on the same side (The American People).

Maybe when we no longer have a black president they'll start thinking rationally........ah........ na. Scratch that. We'll have a woman president and if you think their panties were in a bunch now,with a black president, wait untill you see their behavior after Hillary is sworn in. Their heads will explode.:coolsmiley:


Have you forgotten about the B- Jobs in the White House and the cover ups and attacks on innocent women by the current Democratic candidate? Actions such as that speak louder than words in a trashy publication. So good I posted it twice, once just for you!

Guest 03-25-2016 03:50 PM

Gee I sort of remember that the spouse of the current Democratic candidate for President was impeached by Congress and he had his license taken away. Right after that he paid off one of his accusers of attempted rape $850,000 so she would go away. What were their names again?

Guest 03-25-2016 03:51 PM

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What I find surprising is the Fox News allegiance shift. I remember many people staunchly defending Fox as not being biased.
I also see the shift in the language. Locker room talk that all guys use is now perfectly acceptable anywhere.
I think people are angry because there kids or other young people they know are out of work or worse off then they were at their age. They don't know who to blame. We all know kids that have a BA, college debt and a crappy job. That's where a lot of my retirement money is going. What happened? My other children are doing extremely well.


Gee I sort of remember that the spouse of the current Democratic candidate for President was impeached by Congress and he had his license taken away. Right after that he paid off one of his accusers of attempted rape $850,000 so she would go away. What were their names again?

Guest 03-25-2016 03:52 PM

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Have you forgotten about the B- Jobs in the White House and the cover ups and attacks on innocent women by the current Democratic candidate? Actions such as that speak louder than words in a trashy publication. So good I posted it twice, once just for you!

I'm thinking that Alzheimers has started kicking in for you. Just an FYI: This is 2016 not 1996

Guest 03-25-2016 03:59 PM

We are in trouble for certain in government and here. Alzheimer's is not very nice to reference to make your point. How insensitive and foolish.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:01 PM

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I'm thinking that Alzheimers has started kicking in for you. Just an FYI: This is 2016 not 1996

If you're the guy who said he was going to hit me on the back of the head with a ball peen hammer in another thread, I didn't make that post. There are a few people that have opposing viewpoints.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:02 PM

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I'm thinking that Alzheimers has started kicking in for you. Just an FYI: This is 2016 not 1996

You will think you are in 1996 again when all those women abused by Hillary and Bill come out of the woodwork in the campaign. It is going to be real fun to see and hear it. I am afraid Bubba might miss it since he looks like he is in bad shape . But that may be just to get the sympathy vote for Hildebeast. Bill may have to take one for the beast.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:22 PM

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Guest 03-25-2016 04:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1203886)
Have you forgotten about the B- Jobs in the White House and the cover ups and attacks on innocent women by the current Democratic candidate? Actions such as that speak louder than words in a trashy publication

The difference is we had no idea that would happen. Bill was already elected. He didnt attack other candidates with names and comments about their wives or that he would carpet bomb countries.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:44 PM

OK children, each and all of you go to your respective rooms until we can find some adult supervision.

Guest 03-25-2016 04:44 PM

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You will think you are in 1996 again when all those women abused by Hillary and Bill come out of the woodwork in the campaign. It is going to be real fun to see and hear it. I am afraid Bubba might miss it since he looks like he is in bad shape . But that may be just to get the sympathy vote for Hildebeast. Bill may have to take one for the beast.

No one has been vetted more than the Clintons ... But the GOP keeps trying to see what they can get traction on.

The question is still not answered. Are you not ashamed of Cruz and Trump ... Yet?

Guest 03-25-2016 04:48 PM

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If you're the guy who said he was going to hit me on the back of the head with a ball peen hammer in another thread, I didn't make that post. There are a few people that have opposing viewpoints.

But no one answered the original question, attacking a president who has been out of office for 16 years has nothing to do with guys who are actually in the process running for president right now in your party. Again are you not ashamed?

Guest 03-25-2016 04:53 PM

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But no one answered the original question, attacking a president who has been out of office for 16 years has nothing to do with guys who are actually in the process running for president right now in your party. Again are you not ashamed?

Are you ashamed of Hillary?

Guest 03-25-2016 04:58 PM

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Are you ashamed of Hillary?

Again no response of the original question. I am not ashamed of either democratic candidates, neither of them are out there acting like Cruz or Trump.

Are you able to answer the question?

Guest 03-25-2016 05:06 PM

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Again no response of the original question. I am not ashamed of either democratic candidates, neither of them are out there acting like Cruz or Trump.

Are you able to answer the question?

Embarrassed? No. Disappointed? Yes. But, Cruz and Trump are both better choices for leading the country than Clinton or Sanders.

Guest 03-25-2016 05:20 PM

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Embarrassed? No. Disappointed? Yes. But, Cruz and Trump are both better choices for leading the country than Clinton or Sanders.

Yes they both are showing it ... Not embarrased just disappointed. Well at least you answered it. I think Trump who has a favorablity rating in the mid 20s with women is going to have to do something to make up for that figure. There are not enough old white men or white rednecks to overcome those kind of negatives. It makes Hillarys negatives meaningless and another landslide for the dems.

Guest 03-25-2016 05:38 PM

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Yes they both are showing it ... Not embarrased just disappointed. Well at least you answered it. I think Trump who has a favorablity rating in the mid 20s with women is going to have to do something to make up for that figure. There are not enough old white men or white rednecks to overcome those kind of negatives. It makes Hillarys negatives meaningless and another landslide for the dems.

You seem to be counting on a high turn out of Democrat voters for Hillary - many pundits don't agree. She will not have the Black turnout that Obama had, and many of Sanders supporters will not vote for her. How will Independents vote? Who knows? She may very well win the election, but a landslide, hardly.

Guest 03-25-2016 06:24 PM

Let's all give a round of applause for the original posters attempt to make it sound as if the dems are all dressed in white and do only what is above board with no shennigans.

That would be like prostitues re-defining being a virgin to mean any with less than 10 years practice is called a virgin.

Nice try.

Guest 03-25-2016 06:43 PM

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Yes they both are showing it ... Not embarrased just disappointed. Well at least you answered it. I think Trump who has a favorablity rating in the mid 20s with women is going to have to do something to make up for that figure. There are not enough old white men or white rednecks to overcome those kind of negatives. It makes Hillarys negatives meaningless and another landslide for the dems.

All the women I know support Trimp. It is insulting to all women to suggest they are so disturbrd about some on line photos that they would change their mind about voting for particular candidate. The women I know care more about controlling immigration, trade, the economy and ISIS defeat. Please don't insult these women. It is Sexist to do so.

Guest 03-25-2016 06:43 PM

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Let's all give a round of applause for the original posters attempt to make it sound as if the dems are all dressed in white and do only what is above board with no shennigans.

That would be like prostitues re-defining being a virgin to mean any with less than 10 years practice is called a virgin.

Nice try.

I just asked a question if you were ashamed of this wife fighting going on ... Saying the dems are dressed in white means nothing, trying to deflect your shame on the dems speaks volume. You ate ashamed and have only two courses of action, admitting that the two top candidates are incredibly embarrasing or attack the dems.

Guest 03-25-2016 06:53 PM

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All the women I know support Trimp. It is insulting to all women to suggest they are so disturbrd about some on line photos that they would change their mind about voting for particular candidate. The women I know care more about controlling immigration, trade, the economy and ISIS defeat. Please don't insult these women. It is Sexist to do so.

Oh my calling me sexist. We are way passed some on line photos on line now. Hel tg pictures were actually nothing, they were pctures everyone has seen before. It was the sniping of both candidates about each other wifes


I am glad you know some women in the 25 percentile.

Thinking a billionaire who himself has materials made off shore to sell in the US is going to have to do a little better in the Oval office than he has in his actual reality business.

Immigration. The guys hires and employed thousands of maids in Las Vegas at his hotel. You want to bet there are some illegals in the group. Immigration is the easiest thing in the US to fix. We dont need an unbuildable wall all we need to do is enforce the current laws to out their employers in jail for giving them jobs. Easy solution. No jobs no immigrants. Without a wall.

Just todays another high rankng ISIS officials was killed in an air strike. It will take time but invading Iraq and Afghanistan had no effect and in fact the terrorists got stronger.

But keep telling yourself Trump is the answer. He makes Cruz almost look almost average.

Guest 03-25-2016 06:56 PM

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You seem to be counting on a high turn out of Democrat voters for Hillary - many pundits don't agree. She will not have the Black turnout that Obama had, and many of Sanders supporters will not vote for her. How will Independents vote? Who knows? She may very well win the election, but a landslide, hardly.

Hillary is actually out drawing Obamas 2008 primary numbers with black voters. If there are less voters it will only be because of the scenario Maricopa County, AZ pulled with making lower middle class voters wait in long lines.

Guest 03-25-2016 07:14 PM

Arrrgh....
 
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We are in trouble for certain in government and here. Alzheimer's is not very nice to reference to make your point. How insensitive and foolish.

the p/c police...everyone make a circle and kiss each others @ss. So ignoring the death of police by potus is okay with you...

Guest 03-25-2016 07:17 PM

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the p/c police...everyone make a circle and kiss each others @ss. So ignoring the death of police by potus is okay with you...

Huh?

Guest 03-25-2016 07:20 PM

Trying to make sense ....
 
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I just asked a question if you were ashamed of this wife fighting going on ... Saying the dems are dressed in white means nothing, trying to deflect your shame on the dems speaks volume. You ate ashamed and have only two courses of action, admitting that the two top candidates are incredibly embarrasing or attack the dems.

of the reality challenged is like putting chocolate sauce on a turd. Do you even look at what hillary has accomplished in a positive sense? Nada. She talks of equal pay for women yet paid her female aides less than the male aides. She talks of womens rights, but ignores her infamous @ss grabbing husband who skipped out of doing his military service. She was fired from her law job because she lied. She takes no responsibility for anything that has gone wrong by blaming anyone but who was in charge.

At the very least trump takes responsibility for his mistakes. Moron.

Guest 03-25-2016 07:34 PM

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At the very least trump takes responsibility for his mistakes. Moron.

Did Trump ever admit to making a mistake? Just name one.

Guest 03-25-2016 07:49 PM

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All the women I know support Trimp. It is insulting to all women to suggest they are so disturbrd about some on line photos that they would change their mind about voting for particular candidate. The women I know care more about controlling immigration, trade, the economy and ISIS defeat. Please don't insult these women. It is Sexist to do so.

A few questions...and understand, I am a life long Republican

1. When will Trump share his plans to accomplish those issues you mention ? He already has told TWO opted review boards he isn't going to do what he is telling you because he knows it is either illegal or unconstitutional.

2. Have you ever read this mans PERSONAL resume. He has,maybe, the single most dispicable record in treatment of women both professionally and personally.

3. Please review his stand on issues and as you read them, check off the ones that are legal and constitutional.

4. You do realize he has not a snowballs chance to beat Clinton ? He is the Only candidate that cannot beat her, including those he bullied out.

5. This run of his, taking a tv show into real life, and counting on people like you to simply accept platitudes and ignore reality will cost the GOP its majority in the senate and substantially reduce what is left in the House. He may be the death knell for the GOP

And as he has said a number of times....."if this doesn't work, I will still be rich"

Some folks like to be conned

Guest 03-25-2016 08:29 PM

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A few questions...and understand, I am a life long Republican

1. When will Trump share his plans to accomplish those issues you mention ? He already has told TWO opted review boards he isn't going to do what he is telling you because he knows it is either illegal or unconstitutional.

2. Have you ever read this mans PERSONAL resume. He has,maybe, the single most dispicable record in treatment of women both professionally and personally.

3. Please review his stand on issues and as you read them, check off the ones that are legal and constitutional.

4. You do realize he has not a snowballs chance to beat Clinton ? He is the Only candidate that cannot beat her, including those he bullied out.

5. This run of his, taking a tv show into real life, and counting on people like you to simply accept platitudes and ignore reality will cost the GOP its majority in the senate and substantially reduce what is left in the House. He may be the death knell for the GOP

And as he has said a number of times....."if this doesn't work, I will still be rich"

Some folks like to be conned

Your party made an unholy pack with the Koch brothers, Bush 2's cabinet and the David Dukes of the country and now you're surprised. Did you think the conversation would dumb up? Now that it's out of control we will all suffer. Why couldn't you get behind the intelligentsia of your party years ago?

Guest 03-25-2016 09:46 PM

You all keep forgetting....we some how managed to survive over 7 years with the most incompetent, most dangerous person to ever be president of the USA.

There is no person that could do worse.

And anybody except Clinton or Sanders can and will do better.

So relax. After Obama is gone we will feel so much better we will not notice any issues with whoever wins and their learning curve.

Guest 03-26-2016 04:36 AM

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You all keep forgetting....we some how managed to survive over 7 years with the most incompetent, most dangerous person to ever be president of the USA.

There is no person that could do worse.

And anybody except Clinton or Sanders can and will do better.

So relax. After Obama is gone we will feel so much better we will not notice any issues with whoever wins and their learning curve.

:thumbup:

Guest 03-26-2016 04:45 AM

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Your party made an unholy pack with the Koch brothers, Bush 2's cabinet and the David Dukes of the country and now you're surprised. Did you think the conversation would dumb up? Now that it's out of control we will all suffer. Why couldn't you get behind the intelligentsia of your party years ago?

Ok, let's tally the differences, since you apparently want a comparison or you wouldn't make your ignorant comments.

We supposedly have the Koch brothers= Americans
You have Soros = a communist (funds Obama and Clinton)

You say we have David Duke = racist fanatic
You have Bill Ayers = Domestic terrorist bomber

Seems like any way you look at it, at least our party can claim to be American. Your party is the party of slavery and dependence. Ours is the party of freedom, patriotism and independence.

Think I will stick with the conservative side. Never did like being a slave to the government and do not wish to start now. I would rather that they work for me, not the other way around.

Guest 03-26-2016 05:03 AM

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Never did like being a slave to the government and do not wish to start now. I would rather that they work for me, not the other way around.

What do you think you are? Try NOT paying your taxes, see how long you get to keep "your stuff". You ARE a slave, you just don't realize it.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who think they are free.

Guest 03-26-2016 05:32 AM

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What do you think you are? Try NOT paying your taxes, see how long you get to keep "your stuff". You ARE a slave, you just don't realize it.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who think they are free.

Ah, but a conservative indentured servant of the gov is better than a totally dependent liberal slave to the government. The difference is that the liberal slave says "please tell me what to do and take care of me so that I don't have to think for myself." The conservative says "let's have a smaller government, pay less taxes to keep it running, and leave me alone."

The conservative goes out in the forest, sets up camp, gathers wood for the fire, hunts for his meal and prepares it.
The liberal, wants to be transported to a hotel, maid service to clean up after them, and room service to provide prepared meals. And they believe that the wealthy should fund it for them.

Guest 03-26-2016 06:17 AM

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Ah, but a conservative indentured servant of the gov is better than a totally dependent liberal slave to the government. The difference is that the liberal slave says "please tell me what to do and take care of me so that I don't have to think for myself." The conservative says "let's have a smaller government, pay less taxes to keep it running, and leave me alone."

The conservative goes out in the forest, sets up camp, gathers wood for the fire, hunts for his meal and prepares it.
The liberal, wants to be transported to a hotel, maid service to clean up after them, and room service to provide prepared meals. And they believe that the wealthy should fund it for them.

so when do the tax breaks stop? How many models of failure do you have to see before you will realize it hurts the middle class. Check out some of the states, like Kansas, who thought cutting taxes and giving breaks to corporations. When it doesn't work see what the state cuts first, not the lower taxes that caused the problem, no they cut education, infrastructure, etc.

Guest 03-26-2016 06:21 AM

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Ah, but a conservative indentured servant of the gov is better than a totally dependent liberal slave to the government.

You're still a slave. You work and part of your production is forced from you at the barrel of a gun by government, and given to someone else, ultimately, a wealthy fat cat.

Government actively prohibits the "conservative" from going out into the woods and making his homestead. Don't you see that? Government is encouraging the socialists. Corporations want to determine where the money is spent...they don't want YOU doing it. Buy THEIR stuff, don't make your own is their goal.

Guest 03-26-2016 08:54 AM

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of the reality challenged is like putting chocolate sauce on a turd. Do you even look at what hillary has accomplished in a positive sense? Nada. She talks of equal pay for women yet paid her female aides less than the male aides. She talks of womens rights, but ignores her infamous @ss grabbing husband who skipped out of doing his military service. She was fired from her law job because she lied. She takes no responsibility for anything that has gone wrong by blaming anyone but who was in charge.

At the very least trump takes responsibility for his mistakes. Moron.

"At the very least trump takes responsibility for his mistakes."

Do you mean all his bankruptcies trump university? IMBECILE


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