How about SS and medicare for the illegals? Obama says why not and is doing it!
 

Obama Claims Power to Make Illegal Immigrants Eligible for Social Security, Disability

Proof positive he is a raving activist on a mission to destroy the USA.

If his health care ram job does not bankrupt the country he just thought he would add a little more debt to the pile.

C'mon even you liberals who donated all your lives to SS so you could get some back in your old age.....cannot support your beloved president who is willing to give the same benfit to millions who are here illegally.

Obama; the best thing that ever happened to mexican illegal aliens.
He will surely have a more positive legacy in Mexico than here in the USA.

The man is an absolute fool unleashed!!

That's a given. But, it didn't take seven years to figure that out.

Look at the blacks on welfare/SS who never paid a dime into anything either. Don't give them a pass.

"Obama claims power"
He has shown consistently his disregard for the democratic process by using his "Executive Action" to solidify his dictatorship. He has been allowed to run free by a useless Congress that cannot escape a 17% approval rating. Our Democratic system is clearly under attack by the "Good Ole Boys" Club.

Look at your wife on Social Security who ever paid a dime into the system and now collecting half of what you get. Don't give her a pass.

Since you brought it up why not state all of the impact of a wife on SS.

Did she ever work?

She is entitled to half of her spouses or what she qualifies for which ever is greater......meaning she contributed as well.


So what is the point you are failing to make?

I think you are a bit behind times. Or, what a liberal would call a sexist. Because "wives" have been working full-time jobs for decades. They've been putting into the system also. But, there are still some that do get half of what the husband gets. But, today that also pertains to some husbands that get half of what the wife makes, if she had a better career. But, the point that there are some enjoying the fruits of others' labor is a valid point.

And has absolutely nothing to do with in any way shape or form with the subject of providing those benefits to non USA citizens, here illegally....other than emotional BS and the usual baiting, nonsensical aggravation.

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Did any of you actually read the article? This is not an "executive action". Obama is stating he will not prosecute, much like the military's former don't ask, don't tell policy. Texas, with other states joining in, are arguing this before the U.S. Supreme Court on the basis that the POTUS is obligated to enforce the laws of the United States. My gut feeling is the Court will rule for Obama since past Presidential acts of refusing to enforce a law have been permitted and have even become the law of the land.

Illegal aliens will still risk deportation. They will NOT be eligible for SSI, welfare, food stamps or other free programs. They would be eligible to legally work, pay taxes, collect earned Social Security, disability -- the same as any worker here. Is it the best idea in town? Nope, but I've seen and heard worse in my lifetime.

What do you consider "worse?"

The only/ONLY reason Obama has not been impeached for not doing his job because there would be race riots in the street. Thanks to his inept job performance, it will probably be a long time before anyone in America will be willing to vote for another half-white man for president.

For one, I consider Reagan's Star Wars program far, far worse. And I think history will be a lot kinder to Obama than you guys are. I don't think he is a particularly good President but I don't think he is the inept, tyrannical traitor many of you seem to think he is.

Red (forgot to sign my first post, sorry)

Regardless of "other presidents" that are used to defend his terrible job, Obama has circumvented congress with E.O.s and also refused to allow certain laws to be enforced. Regardless of who is to blame for his seven plus years of terrible economy and welfare payments, his encouragement of racial division has set America back many years. Regardless of any wars that he may not be responsible for, his foreign policies were/are terrible. Yes, history will always be kinder to the past, especially to the first black president. Defensive excuses have been and will continue to be used to cover for his inept, lack of ability. It is not his fault totally. He was not prepared for the job, and had no experience or leadership training to rely upon. Obama was/is a failed experiment. He is only considered a traitor by omission and dereliction. Only history will tell whether he has been a catalyst willingly or negligently to America's crippling.

I can understand why liberals in their embarrassment of him, find it necessary to defend their willing accessory to his election.

Is that an opinion or a fact?

The only reason, as you stated, "history will be a lot kinder to Obama", is that our country and Western Civilization could well be Muslim dominated by the time that history is written, and certainly Muslim historians will be kind to one of their own.

Some people are just buffoons and don't have a clue, and I do mean you!

The usual cowardly name calling from way back behind the keyboard!

I think that was the longest I've seen for a no insult day.

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And why is he a Muslim? Because some Muslims, not all, believe if your father is a Muslim, you are a Muslim.
It's that way for Catholics too. You saw the Godfather. Long before the age of consent I was baptized making me a Catholic. My parents figured if I died I would go to heaven and not Limbo.

You do get the chance to change teams. He did. I didn't.

Children understand this. Why pretend you don't?

Did you read the post that you responded to? To put this person's brain capacity at the same intellectual level as a child would be to insult the child. He is at a caveman's level. He is not pretending to know what you are talking about. He doesn't know what you are talking about.

If Obama changed his religious belief, he would have changed his name. Children know this. Why pretend you don't?

And why should Obama or I change our names if we are born into one belief and accept another after we are past the age of reason?
Does this have you stumped?

And do you think on the other side of the world, 2000 years ago the disciples were named Matthew, Luke, Paul and John?

Do you really think its only "the blacks" who are on welfare?

Read it and weep:

Who Gets Food Stamps? White People, Mostly

This is NOT the first time this type of aid was given

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoch...Assistance_Act

The President of the United States was....drum roll please

Gerald R Ford if my memory serves me he was a Republican!!!

Don't you just hate it when we remember the facts?

No, just surprised that you took the effort to get some new material from your handler. Most of you libtards just repeat the same old mantra, ignorantly.

Would you like to compare the number of signing statements and EO Bush did to Obama....hopefully you know better than to do that!

I always do my research before I post! Insults will get you no where.

Their children, born here, are US citizens and they ARE eligible for welfare, mom goes along for the ride. There was never any welfare reform. Mom lost HER welfare, but it was transferred to the kids, so in the end, it's the same or BETTER than before. A single mother with 4 kids can get benefits equaling $60,000 a year.

Thank God! Shouldn't have voted for that one either. Name me ONE "great" black politician who did good things for ALL, not just blacks.

Here is a study that says your link is wrong.
Welfare: Who

They say only 23% are white on welfare. Even though we're over 50% of the population. Many welfare reports group hispanics with whites. Blacks AND hispanics both make up the most welfare recipients. Over 50% of recent immigrants receive welfare.

Go ahead and do it. You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing, but to say, "well if congress is not going to agree with me, I will make my own laws" is illegal and not part of the Executive branch. Now, are you going to use the past presidents actions justification for Obama's failures? And it doesn't matter what president might have done it previously, it's not part of the job, and there is NO excuse for Obama doing it. AND, the Supreme Court agrees with what I said. Obama cannot make law and E.O.s can be voided by the next president.

What excuse is there for the Republicans opposing EVERYTHING that Obama put forward? EVERYTHING from day one! I guess Mitch McConnell wanted the title "King of he Filibuster".

Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.

What IS his job? Change the country? Bring it down to "their level"? So they can compete? Make us 3rd world too?

The thing you don't get is...it's not him that sets the agenda. He just tells us what it is. It's set elsewhere. Be a convincing script reader, that's his job.

Are you so polarized that your memory does not work?
Do you remember the name Harry Reid? Nothing, NOTHING he thought Obama would not like ever got past his desk. He was notorious for it.

Harry was not just the king of filibuster he was a stop sign...no discussion....if it was from the opposition he automatically put it in the no go drawer.....

Harry Reid remember....nasty old man....party only.....incompetent....

You think Obama rose to be the most powerful man in the world? You're kidding right. Him? He became the MOST powerful man in the world.

He's a talking head!

Many believe he is gay.

What excuse??? Are you kidding? Of course we oppose just about everything socialist. Are you nuts? He hasn't had hardly a good idea in seven years and you want to know why?? WHY??? Obamacare was his priority and it was a catastrophe. Stealing half a trillion bucks from Medicare to pay for those that don't have health care, was just theft. Have to pass it to find out what's in it, and you think that is smart? And you would vote to pass something that you didn't know what it was?

Obama signed unlawful E.O.s and the Supreme Court told him that. What did he do? He just ignored them. He is an ignorant failure, at best and a radical is probably more accurate.

You liberals and your talking points, blaming his failure on a Republican congress when they had a filibuster proof congress for two years. NO OPPOSITION and they still couldn't get anything right. When have you ever heard another president EVER blame someone else for their failures.....I mean, other than Clinton.

The ONLY reason that Obama has not been impeached is because they didn't want race riots in the streets of D.C. again. If a Demo-Socialist gets elected by hook or crook, they had better consider this and not try his tactic, because they will be impeached and fired so fast that it will make Nixon look like a choirboy.

That's a new one.
How does your mind work? "Let's see, what's the most disparaging remark I can make about Obama. Muslim, been done,,,half white,,been done,,hmmmm I know, I'll call him gay."
That's pretty funny.

LOL!!!! Now you are just being silly. Bush had signing statements by which he would not follow parts of a bill he didn't support!

But why don't you explain Bush's EO 13303....did you think we would forget?

Is that the best defense for Obama's blunders that you could come with? What law did Bush break by signing that E.O.? What did he do that was illegal?

Are you liberals going to be crybabies every time someone says a legitimate criticism of the Obummer? Are you going ATTEMPT to use other previous presidents record in an ATTEMPT to defend Obummer the failure?

Your feeble attempt was pitiful at best.