Horrific Las Vegas Massacre
 

Waking up this morning to the worst massacre in our country's history...really brings home how fleeting our life can be.


My heart and condolences go out to all, who lost or had wounded loved ones...from this apparently lone nutjob who committed mass murder.


It's just hard to comprehend. :ohdear:

My heart also goes out to those who lost someone last night.

It is so sad. When will it stop? This time the shooter is a 64 year old man -- much older than the typical profile. Prayers for all affected.

A good friend has children in Vegas. (He just texted me to tell me they were okay.)

Unimaginable. :ohdear:

Let me just say that I have had welcome news on Facebook. I should not say much more.

Without some kind of gun control , at least to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally disturbed and criminal element, we are going to see more and more of this. It's time to face reality on this subject.

I wish I could say I am surprised at this horrendous massacre in LV, but I cannot do so. I have never seen this country in such turmoil. IMO it is a breeding ground for events such as this.

The guy have a 400,000$ home in a retirement community :(

Can't imagine it will ever stop.

In the absence of a revolutionary cultural change this will continue to be the normal.


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He lived in nearby Mesquite which does contain a retirement community. So he lived in it?

He was a licensed pilot. Weird. Just flipped out?

Apparently he checked in on Thursday. How on earth could he get and keep that many rifles into that room without housekeeping wondering what's up???

Do not disturb sign on the door?

Normal?

Such acts, to one degree or another, have always been part of the world, and will never totally stop. But I will never use the word ‘normal’ to describe them.

He lived in Mesquite, TX from 1998 until 2010. Then lived in a retirement community in Mesquite, NV. Very strange. He had lived in Reno, as well. The guy moved around...

nor·mal
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adjective
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conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

Yes, normal. It is expected and will continue.


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Nope. Not to me.

Define it as you wish. But as I said, I will never refer to such acts as normal.

My heart just breaks for those affected by this senseless tragedy. Prayers for them and their family.

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to blame guns and the President.

The fact is that this guy used a fully automatic weapon which is pretty much illegal to own in this country. I would guess that he procured it through some kind of illegal means.

Laws don't prevent crimes. Gun control laws do not prevent people from getting guns illegally. No laws would have prevented this. This man broke many laws. If it were a matter of enacting new laws these things would never happen as bad or sick people will continue to break them.

I guess next it will somehow be President Trump's fault.

He lived in Florida for two years within the last five years according to his brother Eric, who lives in Orlando near their mother. Brother also said Marilou Danley was his girlfriend and a nice person. Heard she was out of the country.

I think most of us are trying so hard to make any sense of this.

Breaking news says death toll is now 58, injured 500. What could make a person do this? Prayers for the thousands of people directly affected by this. Impossible to imagine their heartbreak.

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Our prayers go out to all after a horrendous tragedy.

That's pretty much it and I can't imagine how that change could possibly be brought about.

If Sandy Hook where children were slaughtered didn't change the discussion, this won't either. One of the few actual pieces of legislation that has been passed by this congress and signed by this president was to eliminate a rule to keep weapons out the hands of those deemed incompetent, which would not have prevented this event. But it shows our priorities. For further evidence see the election eve rally of Senator to be Roy Moore of Alabama and the bill working its way thru Congress now to deregulate silencers so shooters can fire and not have their gunshots heard. Big need for that.

Calm down ,my man. Again deal with reality. Semi auto weapons that can be bought throughtout the country leagally can be easily converted to automatic. Also the gun show loop hole is a glaring example where laws can be effective.

I am a retired Las Vegas police officer. I have a friend and former co-worker that was there, working the concert and helped get people to safety. Fortunately, God was protecting him and he was unharmed. I've heard two officers are among the fatalities and at least two more injured, one critically. I can't even process the suffering and grief of everyone involved. Please keep comments of blame for gun control or politics to yourself or your private conversations. The blame for this event lies with the individual and the psychopathy and hate in his heart. Pray for all the victims and their loved ones.

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The fact is that this guy used a fully automatic weapon which is pretty much illegal to own in this country. I would guess that he procured it through some kind of illegal means.



Nevada is an open-carry state, and automatic weapons are legal there.

When the next mass death in Europe or here perpetrated by a Muslim happens, will you and others not be correct to mention the underlying factors that made that next event happen? That the ready availability of teaching from radicalizing Islamic websites and persons had a role in the event? And if the President and the Congress cry out for solutions to lessen the likelihood of it happening again, should we not have that discussion? But apparently not this time, when it is a clear situation where if the Brady Law had remained in place and enforced or even strengthened this might not have happened.

This is not a time for prayer from me. Too bad God didn't protect everyone there. It is time again, and again, and again to point out the death grip the gun industry has on our politicians and the resulting deaths that come from poor policy. And today in American another 90 people will die from gunshots. And tomorrow, and the next day. Yes the blame goes to the shooter, but that does not mean there are no changes that can be made to prevent the next man. Fortunately we didn't just say the drunk driver is the cause of his road carnage. We changed the law to make it harder for the next driver to commit the same crime.

Las Vegas gun show 2016

Well, they are not legal in Mexico but look at the killings down there.

Correct me if I am wrong. Are guns legal to own in Chicago? I don't have a gun, but I am glad my neighbors do. If a law were passed to limit ownership of guns, only the good guys would obey the law. THAT is the reality. I think there are two ways to look at things and two ways to vote. What sounds nice and what really happens.

Amen. And thank you for your service.

We're talking about FULLY AUTOMATIC GUNS ,GRACIE. No one needs one.

No they don't but they are able to get them, somehow. Heroin is illegal too. Underhanded people with no moral compass prey on good people who follow rules.

Interesting about his father who at one time was on the FBI's Most Wanted list

Las Vegas shooter's father, 'Bingo Bruce,' lived colorful life of crime and deception | Fox News

I am not a gun owner. Never owned one in my life. Fired a gun only in the military in basic training.

Listening to this terrible thing unfold, there are a number of videos on YouTube with instruction on how to easily turn an semi automatic into a full blown automatic weapon and to do it legally.

So the laws do NOT prevent automatic weapons, they simply make you add something cheap, and then you have an automatic weapon and its legal.

I do not know the laws, but it appears the NRA is striving for automatic AND silencers and we just removed the impediment for Mentally ill folks from getting guns.

What are the uses for automatic weapons and silencers and allowing mentally ill to buy them ?

Again, I don't know this law well, but I am posting only because this crap about the gun didn't kill, the guy who pulled the trigger did is just crap.

We know there is evil, but we say we just have to deal with it ?

I just had to speak out and will take criticisism or education because I just do not know the law.

I suppose the automatic weapons with silencers will insure not scaring off the next victim, be it a deer, a rabbit or humans.

When some one says "my friend was protected by God so he is alright" what does this someone say about those who died? Where was God protecting them? Is this a false narrative?

There are no silencers like in the movies (if people don't know), only suppressors that still make a ton of noise and melt on automatic weapons. It would glow.

When I fired an M2 the point was to make a lot of noise. He didn't have an M2, no way. Snipers may use a suppressor with a 50 cal however the single shot is coming from a mile away.

If one were to base legislation on your rationale, we may as well not have any laws as the only ones obeying them would be your so-called "good guys." That is naive and simplistic.

I'll leave the political discussions for another day. Today, I'll just mourn the death and injuries of so many.

One thing I will set strait. Fully Automated Weapons are not illegal in the US. They are however very heavenly regulated. They are considered a class 3 weapon. Must be sold by a Class 3 Gun Dealer and require a special Tax Stamp directly from the ATF. They are also extremely expensive. $10K expensive. You will not find what he had in your local gun store. Yiu will be heavily investigated before you will own one. Which brings me to my next point, this proves that regulating weapons does not work. You have to change society which is really sick now.

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They cannot be converted easily to full automatic.