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YouNeverKnow 02-04-2019 04:56 PM

Dogs in Grocery Store
 
Today in the Walmart Neighborhood Market in the Sarasota Plaza there was a man that had two dogs with him. These were clearly not any kind of service dogs as they had no identification and they were poorly behaved. One was in the child seat of the grocery cart and the other was hooked to the bottom bar of the grocery cart with a leash. He was in the check out lane and the dog tied to the cart was extremely hyper and bouncing around back and forth in the lane and tugging at the leash while the man was checking out his groceries.
I've seen dogs in Home Depot in carts and on leashes and other non food stores but they should not be allowed to take them into a grocery store where food is being sold! There are Florida laws restricting the presence of animals in businesses that prepare or sell or serve food and consequences for violating those laws.
People leave your animals at home when you go grocery shopping! :shocked:

Fredman 02-04-2019 05:04 PM

Dogs in super market
 
Leave your dogs at home period

New Englander 02-04-2019 05:06 PM

I agree 100%

karostay 02-04-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1622062)
Leave your dogs at home period


:ho::ho::ho::ho::ho::ho::mademyday::clap2::clap2:: bigbow:

karostay 02-04-2019 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1622062)
Leave your dogs at home period


:ho::ho::ho::ho::ho::ho::mademyday::clap2::clap2:: bigbow:

Sad to say it will be ignored

Mleeja 02-04-2019 05:55 PM

Does this Wal-Mart not have a “greeter”?

photo1902 02-04-2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1622074)
Does this Wal-Mart not have a “greeter”?

No. It’s the grocery store.

NotGolfer 02-04-2019 06:57 PM

I believe there's a sign on the wall next to the Cart "Garage" that says something about no pets in the store. I've seen dogs in there as well. People know better but push the envelope because they figure management won't say anything.

I'm amazed how people feel the need to take their pets EVERYWHERE they go these days. We've had pets in the past and generally they stayed home. So I'm not a "hater"...just don't care for people who don't use common sense.

MSchad 02-04-2019 07:17 PM

I was in Publix and a man had a dog in the checkout line that was barking up a storm.

graciegirl 02-04-2019 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1622091)
I believe there's a sign on the wall next to the Cart "Garage" that says something about no pets in the store. I've seen dogs in there as well. People know better but push the envelope because they figure management won't say anything.

I'm amazed how people feel the need to take their pets EVERYWHERE they go these days. We've had pets in the past and generally they stayed home. So I'm not a "hater"...just don't care for people who don't use common sense.

I so agree. And so do most people. People generally use common sense and that is the reason the exceptions raise eyebrows....which is in agreement with Billethekid's philosophy.

Retiring 02-04-2019 07:22 PM

This whole dog in store, dog in church, dog in movie theater, dog in restaurant, dog in airplane, dog in… is totally out of control. Everyone wants to be PC and are afraid they are violating the ADA so everyone looks the other way. Some dog people, I have a good friend that is one, are completely clueless on the subject. But even my friend acknowledges when it comes to dogs she does not think rationally. A few years ago I got to watch a child bitten on the hand by a non-service dog (german shepard). The aircraft was boarding, the child was seated at the window on left side, the dog was at the window on the right side so child and dog were far apart. The dog literally bolted past his row, past the isle and bit the 6 yo on the hand – blood everywhere. Although it was on my airline, I still offered to be a witness for the mother. At least once a month I see a dog on leash at the airport pee or poop right in the middle of the terminal and the owner keeps walking. I don’t know when the madness will end.

karostay 02-04-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1622097)
This whole dog in store, dog in church, dog in movie theater, dog in restaurant, dog in airplane, dog in… is totally out of control. Everyone wants to be PC and are afraid they are violating the ADA so everyone looks the other way. Some dog people, I have a good friend that is one, are completely clueless on the subject. But even my friend acknowledges when it comes to dogs she does not think rationally. A few years ago I got to watch a child bitten on the hand by a non-service dog (german shepard). The aircraft was boarding, the child was seated at the window on left side, the dog was at the window on the right side so child and dog were far apart. The dog literally bolted past his row, past the isle and bit the 6 yo on the hand – blood everywhere. Although it was on my airline, I still offered to be a witness for the mother. At least once a month I see a dog on leash at the airport pee or poop right in the middle of the terminal and the owner keeps walking. I don’t know when the madness will end.

It never will..
Insensitive people will only produce other insensitive people
You see moral decay grow year after year..Just look around the bubble no longer do you see or hear the slogan Florida's Friendliest Home Town Just hang on for the ride hope it last our life time

gweisheipl 02-04-2019 08:14 PM

Wack-A-Doodle-Doo’s!

anothersteve 02-04-2019 08:56 PM

This should be placed in "All About Pets"
You wouldn't stand a chance. 😁.
Steve

Happinow 02-04-2019 10:54 PM

Here a dog, there a dog, everywhere a Dog dog
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1622097)
This whole dog in store, dog in church, dog in movie theater, dog in restaurant, dog in airplane, dog in… is totally out of control. Everyone wants to be PC and are afraid they are violating the ADA so everyone looks the other way. Some dog people, I have a good friend that is one, are completely clueless on the subject. But even my friend acknowledges when it comes to dogs she does not think rationally. A few years ago I got to watch a child bitten on the hand by a non-service dog (german shepard). The aircraft was boarding, the child was seated at the window on left side, the dog was at the window on the right side so child and dog were far apart. The dog literally bolted past his row, past the isle and bit the 6 yo on the hand – blood everywhere. Although it was on my airline, I still offered to be a witness for the mother. At least once a month I see a dog on leash at the airport pee or poop right in the middle of the terminal and the owner keeps walking. I don’t know when the madness will end.

We were at Orlando airport and there were a few dogs around, one in particularly, was on a leash. He was walking behind his owners. He poops on the floor, everyone kept walking. There stood dog poop in the middle of the floor. It was gross. Our entertainment for the next hour was to see how many people walked through it with their luggage. Can you imagine dragging your luggage through it? It’s just disgusting. Somethings gotta stop with the dog thing. It’s outta control.

Taltarzac725 02-04-2019 11:05 PM

Sometimes the threat of a lawsuit is the only way to change people's behavior. This looks like a major lawsuit against that airline and the dog's owner as well as the airline employees involved in the decision-making.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1622097)
This whole dog in store, dog in church, dog in movie theater, dog in restaurant, dog in airplane, dog in… is totally out of control. Everyone wants to be PC and are afraid they are violating the ADA so everyone looks the other way. Some dog people, I have a good friend that is one, are completely clueless on the subject. But even my friend acknowledges when it comes to dogs she does not think rationally. A few years ago I got to watch a child bitten on the hand by a non-service dog (german shepard). The aircraft was boarding, the child was seated at the window on left side, the dog was at the window on the right side so child and dog were far apart. The dog literally bolted past his row, past the isle and bit the 6 yo on the hand – blood everywhere. Although it was on my airline, I still offered to be a witness for the mother. At least once a month I see a dog on leash at the airport pee or poop right in the middle of the terminal and the owner keeps walking. I don’t know when the madness will end.


kaydee 02-04-2019 11:34 PM

I think those who violate the “ service dog “ bull ought to hang their head & be ashamed by bringing fluffy in any public business. And you owe every disabled individual who truly has & needs a true service dog an apology. It is an insult to “claim” your little fluffy is a service dog..leave them home...and if you just can’t then you stay home with them.

Topspinmo 02-04-2019 11:54 PM

The ONLY dogs is any store except pet stores should dog for the blind.

DonH57 02-05-2019 12:26 AM

C'mon. Yes it may be embarrassing when you have to send fido in for a case of beer but some time you do what you got to do!

graciegirl 02-05-2019 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1622178)
C'mon. Yes it may be embarrassing when you have to send fido in for a case of beer but some time you do what you got to do!

Don Don Don.:1rotfl:

IndianaJones 02-05-2019 08:13 AM

Yes, but if my dog doesn't get to pick out his own food, he won't eat it! What's a father to do...

TheWarriors 02-05-2019 08:15 AM

Make it simple, just ban service dogs as well so the problem completely goes away. No dogs anywhere but your own home. What normal thinking person believes it’s ok for their dog to pee or poop on someone else’s property? Think they would be ok with me pizzing on their lanai? Hahahaha

TheWarriors 02-05-2019 08:34 AM

Of course I’m kidding about banning all real service dogs.

Bay Kid 02-05-2019 08:38 AM

No dogs around food would be common sense?

LuvtheVillages 02-05-2019 09:00 AM

It seems that store managers are reluctant to address this problem. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it. I'm not.

When I see a pet in a store, I politely remind the person that pets and comfort animals don't belong there. If it appears to be a service animal, it is legal to ask "What service does your animal perform for you?" If you get stuttering, you have your answer.

The offender may not leave, but I have made a point. If more people did this, perhaps it would help.

anothersteve 02-05-2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 1622236)
It seems that store managers are reluctant to address this problem. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it. I'm not.

When I see a pet in a store, I politely remind the person that pets and comfort animals don't belong there. If it appears to be a service animal, it is legal to ask "What service does your animal perform for you?" If you get stuttering, you have your answer.

The offender may not leave, but I have made a point. If more people did this, perhaps it would help.

I was sitting at the bar area of Amerikanos one night and a woman, drunk as a skunk sat next to me with her teacup dog on her lap. The bartender asked her to put her dog on the floor as pets are not allowed near the bar for sanitary reasons. She was asked three times and refused. She was quietly escorted out.
That's how it should be.
Steve

New Englander 02-05-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1622174)
The ONLY dogs is any store except pet stores should dog for the blind.

:mademyday: :bigbow:

leftyf 02-05-2019 10:37 AM

Any shopping cart that had a dog riding in should be steamed cleaned before putting back into use.

Nucky 02-05-2019 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 1622236)
It seems that store managers are reluctant to address this problem. Perhaps they are uncomfortable with it. I'm not.

When I see a pet in a store, I politely remind the person that pets and comfort animals don't belong there. If it appears to be a service animal, it is legal to ask "What service does your animal perform for you?" If you get stuttering, you have your answer.

The offender may not leave, but I have made a point. If more people did this, perhaps it would help.

I don't presently have a dog. I agree in full with the spirit of the common message throughout this thread. It's not good to see dogs in places where common sense would register with most people that the dogs don't belong.

However, unless a person has been Temporarily Deputized by The Sherriff Of Mayberry then Don't act like Barney Fife in a store towards anyone with an "Illegal" animal. Just notify the Store Manager, that's why they are there. I would never directly confront anyone, anymore unless they confronted me. I found out People In Florida Carry Concealed Weapons. Big Weapons Too!

If you did this with me it wouldn't be me who would be stuttering and it wouldn't be my dog either. I choose to not live this way anymore :pray: but I Give Heart Attacks, I Don't Get Them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-05-2019 05:28 PM

"Comfort animals" are not service dogs. The general rule of thumb is: four on the floor, and kept to a short leash. If they're carried in, rolled in a stroller, not leashed, or on one of those expand-a-leashes, they are not on-duty service animals and not allowed in the store. It's illegal to require someone to produce proof that their animal is a service animal. However it is well within the law to require that their dog be a) leashed, 2) kept on the floor at all times, 3) behaved, and 4) in close physical proximity to the person at the other end of the leash at all times.

Since you don't even have to ask anyone "is that a service dog?" you bypass the potential for discrimination against the disabled when you tell the customer he has to remove his animal from the premises. If the dog is not behaving or disrupting business in any way, if the dog is not walking on his own, and not leashed, then the store manager has the absolute right to kick the dog and its owner out of the store.

Brawnwy123 02-05-2019 05:41 PM

Dogs
 
[QUOTE=YouNeverKnow;1622058]Today in the Walmart Neighborhood Market in the Sarasota Plaza there was a man that had two dogs with him. These were clearly not any kind of service dogs as they had no identification and they were poorly behaved. One was in the child seat of the grocery cart and the other was hooked to the bottom bar of the grocery cart with a leash. He was in the check out lane and the dog tied to the cart was extremely hyper and bouncing around back and forth in the lane and tugging at the leash while the man was checking out his groceries.
RESPONSE
We have had and we do like dogs, to a point. What gets us now, the folks who sneak them into motels. We find doggie stuff on the bed, in the hallways, and now in the elevators, gross. On Cruise ships, now, they allow mom to bring her dog on the ship. So now, dog crap in the shower, on the rug, the smell is strong on a ship, if you do not like the dog crap mess, then you can endure your trip with the staff deodorizing,cleaning and basically messing up your trip. On a recent Royal Caribbean cruise, the ladies brought their dogs into the dining room, let them sit on a chair and the wait staff could do nothing about it. So long Royal Dog ships. :bigbow:

NotGolfer 02-05-2019 05:50 PM

I tell this story often. About a year or so ago we were flying for a visit. We were in the airport waiting area (which was crowded) and a woman near me had a cute fluffy dog on her lap. The carrying case was on the floor. I mentioned something about her dog and she said something to the effect that "Fifi, had such a hard time on the plane being in his case so next year I'm going to get one of those harnesses online that says he's a service dog. Poor thing shouldn't have to put up with it!" I so wanted to say something but there was something about her demeanor that told me "just keep your mouth shut"! You could tell that the dog was nervous (probably due to all the people milling around). I don't think we were on the same plane so don't know how things panned out for them.

My question is....when did it become a "thing" to need your pet everywhere you went??

Number 10 GI 02-05-2019 08:15 PM

From what I've read the FDA strictly forbids animals in a grocery store or any establishment that prepares food. With the exception of service animals. Under the Americans With Disabilities Act emotional support animals do not qualify as they aren't trained to perform any service for a person. You don't have to confront the ignorant jerk that brings their dog into the store, just ask for the manager and inform them that you are going to contact the FDA and lodge a complaint. I love animals and have had many pets over the years but they have their place and it isn't anywhere near my food.

PoolBrews 02-05-2019 08:40 PM

Folks are going to hate me, but here I go. Leave your pets at home! People think their pets should go to the square, the restaurant, and now the grocery store. No!!! No one else loves your pets like you do! Leave them home! Nothing more annoying (or disgusting) than seeing someones barking animal in public. It is not a right, and it infringes on other folks rights.

OK, getting off my soapbox... but I'm really sick and tired of this kind of behaviour.

Fredman 02-05-2019 09:17 PM

Dogs in supermarket
 
Maybe i missed it but i have not seen one post from a dog owner justifying taking their dogs out in public. So i have to assume they know it is not the right thing to do. So, why the hell do they do it.

Daddymac 02-05-2019 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1622062)
Leave your dogs at home period

YEAH~~ WHAT HE SAID
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aninjamom 02-06-2019 05:48 AM

We left a restaurant a couple of nights ago, and here's a little dog sitting in the front of an SUV staring at the restaurant. I do not understand a person that can't leave a dog home, but must take it somewhere and then leave it sitting alone in a vehicle/golf cart in a strange place while they go in and enjoy themselves for an hour or more. Some people claim that the dog is destructive if left at home alone; the answer is a roomy crate where their precious has water/food and familiar surroundings until they get back. If you can survive for over an hour in a restaurant or store without your "therapy dog", then you can survive the drive too. These people don't really care about the animal, it's all about them. Pets are not toys.

hampton 02-06-2019 08:07 AM

dogs
 
I find that some pet owners feel they are entitled to do as they darn well please. Entitled to do what they want regardless of rules they are breaking. Entitled to bring their pet wherever they want. Entitled to have them defecate on other peoples property. Maybe they should start a irresponsible dog owners club. I wonder how many would join.

JimD215 02-06-2019 08:39 AM

I see people driving their golf carts with one dog in the passenger seat and another in their arms. What if you need to get out of the way quickly. One hand on the wheel. Do you drop the dog or save your life?

anothersteve 02-06-2019 08:47 AM

I was at market night at Spanish Springs last night and three times, three different dogs lifted their legs to the trellis posts. Excuse the pun, but this ****es me off!
Steve


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