Please investigate the truth
 

FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK, NO MATTER what your persuasion . Sure hope this does NOT go political because this is so important, this would apply to life. So many times I hear Villagers say "How can I believe what I read and hear?", and in this time, more than any other, it's time for ALL of us to do our homework and investigate where the truth lies. We are so fortunate to have technology at our finger tips, please put the truth as your priority.

I wrote a post about this a while back but it got completely taken sideways and closed. Absolutely you cannot believe everything you read or hear even if it seems like it comes from a valid source.

:agree:

Not sure there is a "valid source" anymore. Seems every site, every person, every everything and everybody has their own agenda and caters to what ever they want to promote. Much of it profit motivated, much of it total disregard for what's in it for everyone. My latest example it the position of Boeing in the latest 737 Max accidents. Everyone else grounded the planes except the US and when it was finally mandated Boeing agreed stating "an abundance of caution". So, where is or who is, a "valid source". Wait, is it on the internet, silly me, then it must be true :)

OP, What is your basis for deciding it is the truth?

I find "truth" to be in the eye of the beholder.

IMO this post is an example of that. :)

Don

Fact check all you like...it does not mean what you check isn't a lie also...yes I am a professional cynic...working for over 30 years in gov't does that...you should have learned by now that the internet can be manipulated so you'll never know the truth.

Go by: common sense(very rare) and your instincts(if you haven't developed any then best of luck?)

Watch all news stations to get all sides before making a decision on how you feel

By all means, look things up online to find the truth. Won't find any fake news out there.

Your best bet is to use your common sense. Ask yourself if what you are hearing and seeing makes sense to you. Give some consideration to what's in it for whomever you are hearing it from.

Not sure what you are thinking
 

For so much of life it is opinion. Some people do not realize what they think is fact is actually opinion.

Examples-medical. You see one doctor and they say do ???????
You see another doctor and they say do nothing as the treatment downsides outweigh the possible benefit. It is your life. You may not be licensed to make a choice. In the end the result of the choice made is your quality of life.

So many others that appear on this website and many others.
Investments, purchases, lawn care and so many more.

Research. Today, research is far easier to do. Long gone are the days when you used to go to the library, find a magazine article or book on the subject-hope it is in. A change will have new issues.

People do not realize that people reading an e-mail do not know you, do not see your facial expression. Along with the internet, many have lost the ability to speak to each other.

Realize, we have many opportunities to easily gather information from others. Sadly, MY OPINION, many people just want to talk to people who agree with them and think anyone that does not think what they think is stupid, a fool or.

My view, for the best of my human ability is you learn far more from people who disagree with you than from people who think what you think. As Condi Rice has said, if all your friends agree with you, you need some new friends.

Beware-as humans we rarely accept blame. Most do not see that the blame is theirs. To say it a different way, you have control of what you do. You have at best limited control about what others do.

FACTS-even that is not simple. So many FACTS have over time proven, discovered to be mistaken opinion.

Call or visit a reference librarian to get reliable sources on issues you might have. They can usually give you all kinds of ways to get as many of the actual facts as you can handle.

"History is written by the victors"

Your post
 

Do you not see that your post is your opinion.

Far as the 737 accidents. Everyone but the US grounded them till it was mandated. All of life is a risk. Whether we realize it or not we regularly choose is the benefit worth the risk the cost etc.

Some famous similar events. The Chevy Corvair. We all know, or think we know about it. The problem was according to stuff I read many years ago was due to pricing issues the car was built with undersized torsion bars (spring system) and that caused the car to under-steer and then over steer causing average drivers to roll them. The later Corvairs were improved. A friend has one and it is a great driving car. The car was ruined by it's early reputation.

The 737 max may well suffer the same fate as the Corvair a soiled reputation. Tried in the press by people who are not at all qualified to judge. The 737 max is not the only plane with problems-issues. There was or is an Airbus where the tail has more than once fallen off.

WHAT IF-is always a question that we do our best to deal with.

Yes and no.

You can check and easily determine outright bold face lies, especially easy to check FACTS, and then run away from liars.

I think Tals referred to librarians.....I just say. READ READ READ

I am as well. I believe nothing, fact check everything and then still question it.

Truth matters,
 

I still believe that the truth is important. When a kid, I can remember the threat of a bar of soap in my mouth if caught in a lie. These days, I hear, "it's just a stretch of the truth or an exaggeration ", No, really, it's a lie! If 80% of your investigation leads you to a consensus of a conclusion, why would you question that decision. IMHO

Not Hollywood elites, not written press, not televised news, not the college educators or campus, not www info, not our life long politicians. So, where is the real truth? good luck finding it...….but do search hard and try to educate yourself.

Great post. Truth defines your character.

No legacy is so rich as honesty.

. William Shakespeare

If I watch and listen to a live event and know what the person said, that is my basis for truth.
The next day that person is questioned about what they said and the reply is "no I didn't say that...that is just fake news.
My conclusion..that person is a liar!

Well said. I only allow myself to read the sources that have always been good, even though now I read far too many opinions on all of them in lieu of facts. The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, Vox, AP, Forbes, Pew Research, Nielsen Ratings. I give a wide berth to Breitbart and Mother Jones etc.etc. and all of those really extreme in political bias. I TRY to find the truth, admitting to having my own bias. I try to allow my mind to be changed and it has been with enough evidence and valid arguments that are presented in an unemotional way. A good argument is usually brief. If it is very long I began to get skeptical.

Aren't video tapes and audio tapes great ?

Of course it is my opinion.....if you believe that the "valid sources" don't have an agenda and don't have a bias that's your opinion too.Not sure what you point is. If we didn't buy into their agendas and biases they would have no ratings or sales....and they know that.

Comparing the 737 Max to the Corvair is interesting. Unless Ralph Nadar is writing another book I suspect the Max will be back in the air within 60 days if the software fix proves itself. Airbus had a similar issue with Quantas flight 72 in 2008, software was also to blame for their issue.

My issue was that Boeing kept saying the plane was safe when pilots, flight attendants and passengers weren't so sure. It took a mandate for the CEO to make the "abundance of caution" comment. Fortunately, they are now on the ground, and while they will fly again, they should stay there until the MCAS is proven fixed.

I have no idea what the OP is even talking about let alone how anyone is answering it. Makes no sense to me.

Man ...I was just thinking the same thing!
Steve

That makes three of us.

I'm in.

Some question my post, my answer is simple, being truthful REALLY matters to me. If I suspect a liar I fact check and draw conclusions thru investigating. I'm not suRe truth matters anymore. Sad!

I am not surprised that you like truth. You and your posts always reflect decent and honest and kind thinking.

ALL decent folks know liars and they usually repel them.

I agree, truth is losing its importance and that is sad and not without consequences to us and our children over the years.

Your post was questioned by 4 posters and was done with sarcasm. Some cannot address truth thus......

Your respect and honor for truth is noted and applauded

When watching "so called" professional journalists interview someone, I often wonder why they allow an interviewee to get away with lies or untruths just to keep the interview going so they can cover all of the scheduled topics. Sometimes, I wish they would stop the interview and force the interviewee to acknowledge the truth or terminate the interview. Maybe that would promote more truthfulness.

If it walks like a duck
 

If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck it is a duck. If you’re caught with your hand in the cookie jar and deny it you’re still guilty saying it isn’t so doesn’t make it true.

It's called perception management.

If I invited someone into my house, and they lied to me, I would not invite them back. But, apparently, journalists who conduct all types of news and talk shows don't have any ethics with respect to lying and saying things that are not true. They continue to invite the same people back onto their show to tell more lies. I never went to journalism school, but I would think that there should be some kind of rule or policy about this.

But if the duck quacks on video, and then says he didn't quack, that would be a lie!!!!

To most, but apparently not all

All I'm saying is do your do diligence, fact check MANY sources, then and only then, draw your educated conclusion. These days we have many examples of who does NOT know how to tell the truth, in the mean time, our children are listening and learning that they too, can get away with LIES.
I've tried to keep politics out of this post, in spite of the elephant in the room, isn't it possible to put aside our "leanings" and JUST DO THE RIGHT THING and tell the truth. Surely to goodness, we can agree on THAT!

I agree, but, no, it is not possible.

You mean like in a press conference?

I am totally not getting this. Is it some sort of disguised political discussion?

What is behind door #1?