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Chatbrat 09-13-2019 04:01 PM

50 neighbors
 
Well according to our neighborhood c hat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again ,look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle

JSR22 09-13-2019 04:04 PM

50 houses yikes! What were thy reported for? Figurines, crosses, political signs etc.?

Chatbrat 09-13-2019 04:19 PM

All of the above--what a nut job ?

alwann 09-13-2019 04:22 PM

Nut job
 
Yeah, probably. Or suffering from dementia. Although, if one wanted changes in the policy, one way to get attention could be to overwhelm the powers that be.

manaboutown 09-13-2019 04:23 PM

I wonder where she resides and what her yard looks like. It only takes one crank to cause many people grief as we all know.

JSR22 09-13-2019 04:33 PM

I can not fathom why anyone would waste their time looking for lawn violations.

graciegirl 09-13-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1681039)
All of the above--what a nut job ?

They can be reported, but if there is no deed restriction violation than there is no letter and no fine. So. There were fifty violations? Are you sure? Or is this an urban rumor that you read on the site? How did anyone know she reported fifty people? The deed compliance people don't report things like that as to number etc.

People can report things but things have to be in violation before anything is done at all.

njbchbum 09-13-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1681032)
Well according to our neighborhood c hat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again ,look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle

And what do you suggest the person who finds her do? Confrontation? Retribution? Retaliation? Violence?

Chatbrat 09-13-2019 04:46 PM

Just follow her to her lair and remove he anonymity--

Chatbrat 09-13-2019 04:47 PM

Absolutely sure it was reported on our villages chatroom

Rango 09-13-2019 04:50 PM

:popcorn:

justjim 09-13-2019 05:00 PM

OP, if the number is accurate, this person did a lot of work to fill out forms on 50 houses with specific deed restrictions for each home and address. In my Village, it would not be difficult to find a number similar to 50 who technically violated a deed restrictions. Who of us would even want to do that much paperwork? That “boggles” your mind. Fore.

Chatbrat 09-13-2019 05:09 PM

Very easy for a driven "nut "

graciegirl 09-13-2019 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1681058)
Very easy for a driven "nut "

If the people had deed violations than she is doing a public service. I am skeptical about fifty people being reported. Can you copy and paste the message that said this happened? You can remove the original posters name.

pacjag 09-13-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1681032)

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

Or maybe she is looking out for the rest of us by exposing the scofflaws that hide amongst us.

ColdNoMore 09-13-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1681052)
And what do you suggest the person who finds her do? Confrontation? Retribution? Retaliation? Violence?


Exactly.

Mikeod 09-13-2019 05:29 PM

According to an article on the “news” site a week or so ago, a person who was reported for white cross violation threatened to do what you say this lady was doing. They were going to drive through multiple villages recording everything they considered a violation.

However, if what is reported to the district is not a violation, nothing happens. If it is, it is.

ColdNoMore 09-13-2019 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1681053)
Just follow her to her lair and remove he anonymity--


As asked previously...then what?

Keeping in mind that these people are simply reporting 'POTENTIAL' deed violations and are not the ones making the final determination...why exactly do you want to know who they are?

As to the asinine suggestion that in these, non-criminal cases, one "has the right to confront their accuser," reread the above paragraph...of whom does the actual "accusing."

It's patently obvious, that the ONLY reason to want to identify those turning in potential violations, is to, in some way... personally harass/bully those individuals.

Deplorable. :ohdear:


ColdNoMore 09-13-2019 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pacjag (Post 1681061)
Or maybe she is looking out for the rest of us by exposing the scofflaws that hide amongst us.

:thumbup:

vintageogauge 09-13-2019 06:37 PM

More power to her, maybe if more people would do that there would no longer be infractions. I have no problem with it, personally I wouldn't do it as I'm too lazy, I don't mind other people doing it for me.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-13-2019 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1681049)
They can be reported, but if there is no deed restriction violation than there is no letter and no fine. So. There were fifty violations? Are you sure? Or is this an urban rumor that you read on the site? How did anyone know she reported fifty people? The deed compliance people don't report things like that as to number etc.

People can report things but things have to be in violation before anything is done at all.

That is not true. EVERY SINGLE REPORT is investigated. If someone makes 50 totally fake and frivolous reports against 50 different properties, then Community Standards has to check out every single one of them, to determine if a) it's legit and b) if it is, what to do about it.

Thanks to anonymous reporting, anyone can report anyone, for anything, whether it's an actual violation or not, and get away with it. Every single time.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-13-2019 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1681069)

As asked previously...then what?

Keeping in mind that these people are simply reporting 'POTENTIAL' deed violations and are not the ones making the final determination...why exactly do you want to know who they are?

As to the asinine suggestion that in these, non-criminal cases, one "has the right to confront their accuser," reread the above paragraph...of whom does the actual "accusing."

It's patently obvious, that the ONLY reason to want to identify those turning in potential violations, is to, in some way... personally harass/bully those individuals.

Deplorable. :ohdear:


This is exactly why I don't think the property owner should have access to the complainer's personally identifying information.

But Community Standards absolutely should have that information, to protect themselves, and to ensure there's some measure of accountability. If this turns out to a total nut-job, and 80% of those reports are fake and made up, then they need to be able to tell the nut-job to cease and desist. They can't do that, if they don't know who it is.

villagetinker 09-13-2019 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1681049)
They can be reported, but if there is no deed restriction violation than there is no letter and no fine. So. There were fifty violations? Are you sure? Or is this an urban rumor that you read on the site? How did anyone know she reported fifty people? The deed compliance people don't report things like that as to number etc.

People can report things but things have to be in violation before anything is done at all.

Having been the recipient of a complaint, I asked the community standards person when they came by, and was told there were over 30 complaints in our neighborhood...............
PS the items that were in the complaint were out for almost 6 years, and I know none of the neighbors made the complaints............

Velvet 09-13-2019 07:03 PM

These violations can be seen from outside only?

coffeebean 09-13-2019 07:13 PM

Can anyone go into people's back yards to check for violations or is that considered trespassing?

Are there violations that can be reported for anything in back yards? Let me rephrase that.........are there deed restrictions for back yards? ie: height of shrubs

patfla06 09-13-2019 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1681069)

As asked previously...then what?

Keeping in mind that these people are simply reporting 'POTENTIAL' deed violations and are not the ones making the final determination...why exactly do you want to know who they are?

As to the asinine suggestion that in these, non-criminal cases, one "has the right to confront their accuser," reread the above paragraph...of whom does the actual "accusing."

It's patently obvious, that the ONLY reason to want to identify those turning in potential violations, is to, in some way... personally harass/bully those individuals.

Deplorable. :ohdear:


I’m having a hard time understanding the need to find out who did the reporting.

If you are following the rules you have nothing to worry about.

I think this matter is a slippery slope and we seem to be blaming the wrong people.

Neighbors have the right to report noncompliance.
But wanting to out the person is disturbing.

:ohdear:

Chi-Town 09-13-2019 09:04 PM

50 rule violators in one neighborhood. Such a nice round number.

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Daddymac 09-13-2019 09:41 PM

Is this all about the white cross ✝️ people have out ????

graciegirl 09-13-2019 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1681086)
That is not true. EVERY SINGLE REPORT is investigated. If someone makes 50 totally fake and frivolous reports against 50 different properties, then Community Standards has to check out every single one of them, to determine if a) it's legit and b) if it is, what to do about it.

Thanks to anonymous reporting, anyone can report anyone, for anything, whether it's an actual violation or not, and get away with it. Every single time.

Perhaps Jazuela, you know better than I if the deed restriction people report the number of reports they have received from one person to the public. I have never heard they reported it to the community. The last time I reported someone who had a battalion of flower pots on top of cement blocks covering their entire driveway on both sides, the fellow who took the call was very talkative. (I thought he was too forthcoming, to be frank) They do of course check out each report and if there is no broken rule, no infringement. NOTHING HAPPENS. NO letter, no warning and no fine.

We had friends who had a Hillary sign out in their front yard before the last election. Someone reported them and they had to put it inside. Many times people get permission for some ornaments. Some are very lovely.

I am pleased to hear when someone reports a deed restriction. It keeps the whole area looking nice.

People get themselves all riled up about a slew of things. I remember when someone on this Forum was beefing about older people driving Corvettes.

Nucky 09-13-2019 10:53 PM

What the use?? Whichever way you see this and post your opinion this is easy pickings for someone to bury you by going with the opposite view. I think maybe some people are more accustomed to retribution, payback, eye for an eye etc! I think the environment you were raised in may determine your outlook. Sorta reminds me of a song that is probably not too popular with our contemporaries. Here goes anyway! Maybe the complainer is Sexually Frustrated? Who Knows?

AC/DC Dirty Deeds Lyrics & Song. Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap
Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap
Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap
Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap
Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap
AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (Official Video – AC/DC Live) - YouTube Meant for Comic Relief Strictly!

I would let this thing run its course and refrain from any payback. We are retired and it all just doesn't see to be worth it. Peace Out! It's all free entertainment, cause it isn't happening to me! :1rotfl:

Velvet 09-13-2019 11:35 PM

Not sure if Bon Scott had the little white crosses in mind in Dirty Deeds.

DougB 09-14-2019 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1681054)
Absolutely sure it was reported on our villages chatroom

Well, if it was reported in your village chat room, it must be true.

Bay Kid 09-14-2019 06:42 AM

She must be a very sad, unhappy person.

Chellybean 09-14-2019 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1681059)
If the people had deed violations than she is doing a public service. I am skeptical about fifty people being reported. Can you copy and paste the message that said this happened? You can remove the original posters name.

I completely disagree with you Gracie this is a spiteful mean action and is not a public service, just one persons vendetta against everyone for a personal reason!

Vikingjunior 09-14-2019 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1681044)
I can not fathom why anyone would waste their time looking for lawn violations.

I’ve been reported over 20 times for alleged weeds, if you saw how tiny the weeds were you would laugh you head off.

karostay 09-14-2019 07:29 AM

CNN has infiltrated TOTV

bilcon 09-14-2019 07:31 AM

:bigbow:Yikes, I thought the wicked witch was destroyed in "The Wizard of Oz".

graciegirl 09-14-2019 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1681139)
I completely disagree with you Gracie this is a spiteful mean action and is not a public service, just one persons vendetta against everyone for a personal reason!

If this scenario is valid. If there is a person who is driving around and reporting what she thinks are valid infringements. If she is calling in on obvious objects that are not allowed, then how do any of us know her motivation? There are those who don't like rules. They don't like being reminded of the rules by police officers and they assuredly do not want a neighbor reporting their ugly yard art.

I am skeptical such a thing is happening. Rumors are frequently repeated on this and all FORUMS and passed around as fact.

If she did this all day, every day, and there were no infringements, no broken rules, then nothing happens. The person who is in charge of the complaint(s) come out and does nothing. No one is harmed or aggravated. BUT if there is a rule broken, the homeowner gets a letter, if they ignore the letter, they get fined.

If this is what she wants to do, to me she is helping. I don't like ugly yard art. I don't like schlocky things. I don't like overdone I don't even like a lot of STUFF. I like deed restrictions. They keep the place looking nice.

If someone reported us, we would remove the offending item or change whatever rule was broken. We would be a little embarrassed, but we would immediately remedy the offensive thing. We would think it was reported because it was a rule broken. We wouldn't think a person didn't like us.

Trayderjoe 09-14-2019 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1681069)

As asked previously...then what?

Keeping in mind that these people are simply reporting 'POTENTIAL' deed violations and are not the ones making the final determination...why exactly do you want to know who they are?

As to the asinine suggestion that in these, non-criminal cases, one "has the right to confront their accuser," reread the above paragraph...of whom does the actual "accusing."

It's patently obvious, that the ONLY reason to want to identify those turning in potential violations, is to, in some way... personally harass/bully those individuals.

Deplorable. :ohdear:


1000% agree.

Instead of blaming the "symptom", why not address the cause? If people have deed restriction violations, then the cause is their lack of following rules which THEY AGREED TO when they bought their home.

If there were 50 reported violations in one neighborhood, how many turned out to be false? All of them? None of them? Or somewhere in between? And whether or not the violation existed for any lengthy period of time is completely irrelevant-it just means that a violator ignored the contract they signed for a period longer than someone reported sooner.

Papa 09-14-2019 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1681148)
If this scenario is valid. If there is a person who is driving around and reporting what she thinks are valid infringements. If she is calling in on obvious objects that are not allowed, then how do any of us know her motivation? There are those who don't like rules. They don't like being reminded of the rules by police officers and they assuredly do not want a neighbor reporting their ugly yard art.

I am skeptical such a thing is happening. Rumors are frequently repeated on this and all FORUMS and passed around as fact.

If she did this all day, every day, and there were no infringements, no broken rules, then nothing happens. The person who is in charge of the complaint(s) come out and does nothing. No one is harmed or aggravated. BUT if there is a rule broken, the homeowner gets a letter, if they ignore the letter, they get fined.

If this is what she wants to do, to me she is helping. I don't like ugly yard art. I don't like schlocky things. I don't like overdone I don't even like a lot of STUFF. I like deed restrictions. They keep the place looking nice.

If someone reported us, we would remove the offending item or change whatever rule was broken. We would be a little embarrassed, but we would immediately remedy the offensive thing. We would think it was reported because it was a rule broken. We wouldn't think a person didn't like us.

Well said.


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