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Bay Kid 10-23-2019 07:24 AM

Do you believe the news?
 
I find it harder everyday to watch any news. I have lost my trust in most things they report. Is this just me?

rustyp 10-23-2019 07:27 AM

An easy solution - don't watch the news.

anothersteve 10-23-2019 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1690553)
I find it harder everyday to watch any news. I have lost my trust in most things they report. Is this just me?

Nope.
Steve

Madelaine Amee 10-23-2019 07:35 AM

I am limiting myself. Can no longer watch a news program just before bed.

Blessed2BNTV 10-23-2019 07:36 AM

I now watch less and less “news”. It’s ugly and nasty from all sides.

eweissenbach 10-23-2019 07:40 AM

I think that most real journalists report the news accurately. The reason many people distrust the truth in the news is because of the distortions and outright untruths that some people spread to further their own agenda and sow seeds of doubt about the truth.

l2ridehd 10-23-2019 07:51 AM

I gave up a couple years ago. So much opinion vs news. Newspapers, TV, even the internet. Most things I see or read turn out to be wrong. What ever happened to reporting facts? Our forth estate has become a bunch of liars. They will take information out of contexts just to make a story and report it as fact. So sad.

I remember 60 minutes maybe 20 years ago did a story on the nuclear power industry and focused on IL power. The company did a rebuttal and showed the statements the company official made and what 60 minutes published. They would take a statement made and actually delete words from it and make a new sentence. Changing the intent 180 degrees just to make their story. I just don't get how trained reporters can do such blatant lying? They did the exact same thing to Caterpillar tractor. I thought it was just 60 minutes so stopped watching them.

But slowly learned it was all news reporting. They will show you one picture of storm damage and make you believe that it is representative of an entire area. So they have moved the lies into all areas of reporting.

billethkid 10-23-2019 08:04 AM

They all have an owners, political, agenda, special interest or focus of their own.
News is reported, or not, accordingly.
I prefer various on line news sources, foreign and domestic where I can pick, choose, sort what I want to read or not.
Hence it is what I want not what the networks and lettered news is promoting.

manaboutown 10-23-2019 08:05 AM

Weather Channel Reporter FAKES HIGH WINDS While Two People Walk By FINE - YouTube

Not even the weather news!

billethkid 10-23-2019 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1690575)

Perfect example of the current credibility (lack thereof!!) of reporting.

jebartle 10-23-2019 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1690565)
I gave up a couple years ago. So much opinion vs news. Newspapers, TV, even the internet. Most things I see or read turn out to be wrong. What ever happened to reporting facts? Our forth estate has become a bunch of liars. They will take information out of contexts just to make a story and report it as fact. So sad.

I remember 60 minutes maybe 20 years ago did a story on the nuclear power industry and focused on IL power. The company did a rebuttal and showed the statements the company official made and what 60 minutes published. They would take a statement made and actually delete words from it and make a new sentence. Changing the intent 180 degrees just to make their story. I just don't get how trained reporters can do such blatant lying? They did the exact same thing to Caterpillar tractor. I thought it was just 60 minutes so stopped watching them.

But slowly learned it was all news reporting. They will show you one picture of storm damage and make you believe that it is representative of an entire area. So they have moved the lies into all areas of reporting.


There is a difference between news and opinion, and sometimes the distinction is small. All news media is guilty of this, herein lies the problem.
My problem is when we find more credibility in listening to your neighbor and pass on those lies to others, or listen to OTHERS on tv that keep those lies going.

cypress 10-23-2019 08:24 AM

I just watch the local news now. I gave up on the national news shows.

karostay 10-23-2019 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blessed2BNTV (Post 1690560)
I now watch less and less “news”. It’s ugly and nasty from all sides.

There's a state on the East Coast where it's rulers have lost all reality
and dignity and have embarrassed this Country for personal gains
and enrichment

Kerry Azz 10-23-2019 08:32 AM

As the saying goes, No news is good news! Although with all the issues going on it’s probably a good idea to pay attention to what’s going on.

Nucky 10-23-2019 08:32 AM

I'm not going to stop totally I'm going to manage the amount of time I spend on the News. I let it get out of hand. Shame on me. It's not just you Baykid.

Everything is a Bombshell Report. Phooey

sajoe 10-23-2019 08:41 AM

I believe the basic issue with "news" is commercialism. Advertisers are not interested in people who question what they are told and by whom. A story of alien babies or kittens draws people the advertisers want and will pay to advertise to. Is the public school system educating our children to a higher level than when we were growing up? Does that also apply to voters? We get what we ask for.

retiredguy123 10-23-2019 08:45 AM

I don't like it when the news people allow themselves to be used as pawns for the Government. They are always stating things as "fact" when you know that they are just repeating what a Government official told them. For example, how can they verify what happens in a war zone where they don't have any reporters, and how do they know how many troops are in a particular area? Another example is when they reported several years ago that the President had to "cut his vacation in Hawaii short" to return to Washington. They all reported that as an absolute fact, when they had no way to know when the president had actually intended to return to Washington. If they don't know that something is a fact, they should not state it as a fact.

tophcfa 10-23-2019 08:46 AM

I try to watch some news from each side of the obviously bias news outlets and then draw my own conclusions about what is really true. Usually over time it comes out that the real truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Chi-Town 10-23-2019 08:55 AM

Nothing new in the news.

Henry David Thoreau’s views of 19th-century media resonate today


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l2ridehd 10-23-2019 09:05 AM

We all seem to believe that the news is a bunch of bad information. How do we change it? They have to be losing audience viewing. TV, newspapers, and even magazines are losing readership and audience share. They all want to blame the internet. But that is not the reason. The real reason is they report garbage. Why don't at least one form of media realize the real issue and change?

PennBF 10-23-2019 09:05 AM

Disgraced
 
Unfortunately the current people who pretend they are providing news when in fact it is just opinions have disgraced all of the great "Newsmen" who have gone before them and were true news people! To go a step further, since these people were raised with no or limited ethics and standards we are left with the bottom of the barrel trying to convince us and influence us based on the money supporting their weak minded fact starved opinions! A famous person once said the United Statess would never be defeated from outside but could be from within. This is now an actual possibility. Lets pray we continue to have faith in God.:ho:

Madelaine Amee 10-23-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1690574)
I prefer various on line news sources, foreign and domestic where I can pick, choose, sort what I want to read or not.
Hence it is what I want not what the networks and lettered news is promoting.

I was not going to admit that I get my American news from foreign sources, but I do. I listen to BBC where the news is read in a very dispassionate manner by a robotic type female. She reads whatever is before her with no emotion whatsoever - just the news!!! Then I also watch news on PBS which is presented in a very similar manner. I do watch Fareed on a Sunday.

Right now, at this moment in time, I think it extremely important that we know what is happening to our beautiful country.

Taltarzac725 10-23-2019 09:48 AM

Try a wide range of different news programs. Or just Google various issues you are interested in at the time. I still like CBS, ABC, and NBC for the Evening news. There is not that much opinion thrown into these. The cable stations have a lot of talking heads giving their opinions on subjects.

It does all come down to money though and advertising on these stations.

njbchbum 10-23-2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1690562)
I think that most real journalists report the news accurately. The reason many people distrust the truth in the news is because of the distortions and outright untruths that some people spread to further their own agenda and sow seeds of doubt about the truth.

I think the problem today is finding any "real journalist"! Are there any left and how does one find them?

New Englander 10-23-2019 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cypress (Post 1690582)
I just watch the local news now. I gave up on the national news shows.

Same here.

Velvet 10-23-2019 10:33 AM

My impression is news is not to inform you but to influence you. In some places, outright brainwash you. Watch or read with discretion! my father said to me. (That is one reason why I read several newspapers from different countries in several languages. The other is, I’m just addicted.)

About the weather channel, my family was at Cape Hatteras when they predicted a strong hurricane. When the winds didn’t live up to their expectations, they had fans on the reporter, but the sea oats in the background showed the true story. They just didn’t want to disappoint their viewers, I guess.

JoMar 10-23-2019 11:27 AM

It's all politics, money and trying to fill 24 hours with something. Employees will do what the employers ask them to do and when a station takes a political side the reporters will follow. The alternative is to leave the station and find another job. The "old" days had limited time so they reported the facts without in depth analysis. Now they hire analysts from political parties that bring their bias or agenda. Walter Cronkite was a Democrat but nobody knew that when he was reporting. All MHO.

Kenswing 10-23-2019 11:58 AM

When 6 corporations own 90% of the media they can easily force feed a narrative..

retiredguy123 10-23-2019 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1690614)
I think the problem today is finding any "real journalist"! Are there any left and how does one find them?

Don Lemon is a journalist and a news anchor. I just Googled it.

bagboy 10-23-2019 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1690650)
Don Lemon is a journalist and a news anchor. I just Googled it.

:1rotfl: :1rotfl:: :1rotfl:

Bjeanj 10-23-2019 02:30 PM

I miss Walter Cronkite.

I read NPR.com.

Fredster 10-23-2019 03:07 PM

Real unbiased news is hard to find, but opinions disguised as news seem to be plentiful.

Bucco 10-23-2019 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1690641)
When 6 corporations own 90% of the media they can easily force feed a narrative..

While your numbers are outdated (I think your data is from 2012 or earlier), your point is not. It is basically true, no matter the exact numbers,and inevitable in the age of consolidation.

My primary source of news is the NY TIMES....solely owned by the same company (family) since before 1900. It is public traded but if you read up on its journalistic standards and operations, it is truly a great newspaper.

Washington Post, which is another of my favorites is now owned by Jeff Bezoz (NOT owned by Amazon as many think)

Those are my two favorites simply because of their journalistic principals and ideals.

I hardily endorse relying on multiple sources for your NEWS but understanding that many of the so called news sources are full of editorial commentary only, and disguised as news.

It is actually very easy to determine who is reporting news and who is "carrying water" for a particular viewpoint.

MY opinion is that folks search for a "news source" that makes them feel good, not informed or accurate, but feel good and stick with that source no matter what.

I suggest everyone read up on the problems inherent with using any social media, like Facebook, as a news source. You welcome into your mind who knows what.

mrbgull 10-23-2019 04:08 PM

Where is Walter??

jebartle 10-23-2019 04:10 PM

Kind of hard to argue when it's a VIDEO AND AUDIO!

ColdNoMore 10-23-2019 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1690562)
I think that most real journalists report the news accurately.

I totally agree.


Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1690562)
The reason many people distrust the truth in the news is because of the distortions and outright untruths that some people spread to further their own agenda and sow seeds of doubt about the truth.

I agree again.

I believe a big problem is with how many people cannot distinguish between those who report the news (real journalists) and those who may have a show on a supposed news channel...but is purely a show to push their opinion/bias.

If only more folks would even try and understand the difference, then do their own research with legitimate sources...to try and truly understand the issue(s).

But hey, that takes a modicum of work/effort for so many, so why do it when it's so much easier to just have someone else... tell you what to think?

And gosh forbid, how mortifying would it be to find out...that the facts might not support your view'?

Can't be having any of that.
:ohdear:

eweissenbach 10-23-2019 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1690650)
Don Lemon is a journalist and a news anchor. I just Googled it.

How about Hannity, VanSusteren, and Carlson

ColdNoMore 10-23-2019 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 1690700)
Kind of hard to argue when it's a VIDEO AND AUDIO!


I know...right? :oops:

And yet, there are a lot of people saying..."don't really believe what you just actually saw & heard." :22yikes:

Unbelievable. :ohdear:

Bucco 10-23-2019 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1690704)
I totally agree.




I agree again.

I believe a big problem is with how many people cannot distinguish between those who report the news (real journalists) and those who may have a show on a supposed news channel...but is purely a show to push their opinion/bias.

If only more folks would even try and understand the difference, then do their own research with legitimate sources...to try and truly understand the issue(s).

But hey, that takes a modicum of work/effort for so many, so why do it when it's so much easier to just have someone else... tell you what to think?

And gosh forbid, how mortifying would it be to find out...that the facts might not support your view'?

Can't be having any of that.
:ohdear:

The key is ...

"If only more folks would even try and understand the difference, then do their own research with legitimate sources...to try and truly understand the issue(s)."

So much in your sentence.....

First, TRYING to understand will lead you to the truth in most cases. Doing research means you actually care about the issue, and FINALLY.......the word ISSUE. We seem to have lost sight of identifying issues, and address only people. Make sure you understand what the issue is a and don't allow your self to be inundated with "side" stories.

retiredguy123 10-23-2019 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1690705)
How about Hannity, VanSusteren, and Carlson

I Googled them also. They are all described as "commentators", not journalists.


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